Which Presidents in your lifetime abused the office for personal benefit?

[RockyMtNole]

In your off the cuff opinion. Obviously people will disagree on these.

Nixon - sure, he was the OG (although seems like a small-timer now)

Ford - I feel like he was a straight shooter

Carter - Pretty sure one of the most upstanding human beings to ever hold the office

Reagan - Did some slimy stuff but not sure it was him directly or just people under him. Also, not sure if he personally benefited.

George HW Bush - Another with a checkered history in government but I don’t think he personally benefited. Pretty upstanding guy I think, who loved the country.

Bill Clinton - Shenanigans to personally benefit financially? I don’t recall hearing anything like that. Shenanigans in terms of banging everything he could? Sure

George Bush - For all his flaws, I don’t believe Bush ever tried to take advantage of the country for HIS personal gain. He seems like a straight shooter who was surrounded by people who weren’t so straight.

Obama - I don’t think I’ve ever heard of Obama scheming and scamming the country to make money off the presidency.

Biden - Everyone will point to “the big guy” stuff that was before his term. I do think he had a blind spot when it came to helping Hunter Biden, but not sure he did anything to personally and directly benefit. He’ll always be tainted by that though.

Trump - Would sell out the country for a buck or for self-preservation every day of the week.

Thoughts?

 

[BrianNole777]

Do you mean for money or overall?

I don't think any of them abused the office for money except for Trump.

Nixon abused the office to investigate his enemies but I don't think he did it to make money.

 

[Hawkedup]

They all did. They just did it behind your back so you weren't aware. Trump does it right in front of your face and then rubs your nose in it. Most transparent president ever. You libturds just wouldn't understand.

THIS. IS. WHAT. I. VOTED. FOR!!!

 

[RockyMtNole]

Do you mean for money or overall?

I don't think any of them abused the office for money except for Trump.

Nixon abused the office to investigate his enemies but I don't think he did it to make money.

I was leaving it as personal benefit generally - whether monetarily or for personal power, I guess

 

[TennNole17*]

 

[BrianNole777]

I was leaving it as personal benefit generally - whether monetarily or for personal power, I guess

I think that's why they run for President...to get power.

I think all of them tried to use that power for good except for Trump.

 

[fatpiggy]

The only correct answer.

Poorly framed question if we are being honest. I’ve yet to see a president not do a book deal. Every single one has capitalized off the position.

You could argue Trump who donates his whole salary and who left office with a lower net worth than when he obtained office. Obama can’t say that. He was a community organizer now worth $50mm

 

[DFSNOLE_rivals]

The only correct answer.

Poorly framed question if we are being honest. I’ve yet to see a president not do a book deal. Every single one has capitalized off the position.

You could argue Trump who donates his whole salary and who left office with a lower net worth than when he obtained office. Obama can’t say that. He was a community organizer now worth $50mm

Trump donating his salary is very small potatoes compared to the insider trading that is happening daily. The most corrupt president ever. AINEC.

AI Overview



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President Donald Trump’s administration has featured a flurry of investment activity, marked by over 3,700 individual stock transactions executed on his behalf. Disclosures have revealed millions of dollars in trades involving major technology, defense, and banking corporations. These activities have drawn intense public and political scrutiny.

Overview of Investment Activity

• High-Volume Trading: Within just the first few months of his administration, records filed with the U.S. Office of Government Ethics revealed thousands of trades, consisting of large buy and sell orders.
• Corporate Investments: Significant positions were taken or adjusted in major corporations, including firms like Nvidia, Oracle, Microsoft, and Boeing.

Key Controversies and Concerns

• Policy Influence: Critics have raised concerns that the trades frequently intersect with the administration's policies, such as defense contracts and tech regulations.
• Market-Moving Statements: Questions have been raised regarding the appearance of conflicts of interest, as transactions have occasionally overlapped with the president's public comments or social media posts promoting certain stocks.

 

[fatpiggy]

Trump donating his salary is very small potatoes compared to the insider trading that is happening daily. The most corrupt president ever. AINEC.

AI Overview



+5




President Donald Trump’s administration has featured a flurry of investment activity, marked by over 3,700 individual stock transactions executed on his behalf. Disclosures have revealed millions of dollars in trades involving major technology, defense, and banking corporations. These activities have drawn intense public and political scrutiny.

Overview of Investment Activity

• High-Volume Trading: Within just the first few months of his administration, records filed with the U.S. Office of Government Ethics revealed thousands of trades, consisting of large buy and sell orders.
• Corporate Investments: Significant positions were taken or adjusted in major corporations, including firms like Nvidia, Oracle, Microsoft, and Boeing.

Key Controversies and Concerns

• Policy Influence: Critics have raised concerns that the trades frequently intersect with the administration's policies, such as defense contracts and tech regulations.
• Market-Moving Statements: Questions have been raised regarding the appearance of conflicts of interest, as transactions have occasionally overlapped with the president's public comments or social media posts promoting certain stocks.

If the salary is small potatoes, why didn't Obama donate his salary?

What proof do you have that any Trump figure has profited off insider trading? I’m genuinely curious what the strongest evidence is out there?

I’ve yet to see anything credible, but maybe my feed missed it.

Trump is the only modern era President to leave office with a lower net worth than when he entered. Going to make proving your point very difficult if not impossible.

 

[Anon1750875978]

To answer the OP...only two Presidents...the one BEFORE Biden and the one AFTER Biden.

 

[DFSNOLE_rivals]

If the salary is small potatoes, why didn't Obama donate his salary?

What proof do you have that any Trump figure has profited off insider trading? I’m genuinely curious what the strongest evidence is out there?

I’ve yet to see anything credible, but maybe my feed missed it.

Trump is the only modern era President to leave office with a lower net worth than when he entered. Going to make proving your point very difficult if not impossible.

Does Yahoo Finance qualify as credible?

Donald Trump’s net worth has nearly tripled during his second presidential term, rising from approximately $2.3 billion just before his 2025 inauguration to an estimated $6.5 billion to $7.1 billion. This massive financial growth marks a stark contrast to his first term in office (2017–2021), during which his wealth actually decreased from $3.7 billion to $2.5 billion. Financial analysts and media tracking databases attribute his recent multi-billion-dollar surge to several distinct factors.

Yahoo Finance
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Primary Drivers of Wealth Growth
Cryptocurrency Ventures:
The primary catalyst was his aggressive expansion into digital assets. Ventures like his family-backed World Liberty Financial ($WLFI) platform, governance tokens, and the official $TRUMP memecoin have added an estimated $1.8 billion to $3 billion to his overall portfolio.
Foreign Real Estate and Licensing Deals:
Unlike his first term, Trump did not divest or place his assets into a blind trust. The Trump Organization’s once-dormant branding and licensing branch experienced a 580% revenue explosion. Foreign developers seeking ties to the administration signed lucrative new luxury real estate deals in Saudi Arabia, Oman, the UAE, India, Qatar, Romania, and Vietnam.
Trump Media & Technology Group:
His majority equity stake in the parent company of Truth Social provides billions in volatile paper value. Though the stock fluctuates significantly and the platform has lost operational value, it remains a core pillar of his multi-billion-dollar valuation.
Legal Victories:
His net worth received a massive artificial stabilization when New York appellate judges threw out a highly publicized, half-billion-dollar civil fraud penalty, effectively saving him $500 million in liabilities.
Commercial Merchandise:
Direct-to-consumer monetization using the "Trump Brand" has generated millions through highly publicized sales of $100,000 victory watches, $1,000 branded guitars, and commemorative Bibles.

Forbes
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Ethics Concerns and Oversight Tracking
The rapid accumulation of billions while occupying the Oval Office has drawn immense scrutiny from legal scholars and political opponents:

WFIR News
Constitutional Violations: Watchdog groups like the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington and Congressional Democrats argue these private business agreements directly violate the Constitution's Foreign and Domestic Emoluments Clauses.
Oversight Countermeasures: The House Oversight Committee Democrats launched a "Trump Family Digital Grift Wealth Tracker" to map incoming foreign revenue and digital asset sales, alleging unprecedented conflicts of interest.
Defense Perspectives: Trump, his family, and his allies strongly reject these corruption allegations. They maintain that his skyrocketing wealth reflects standard market forces and global confidence in American leadership.

 

[stillh8unlv]

If the salary is small potatoes, why didn't Obama donate his salary?

What proof do you have that any Trump figure has profited off insider trading? I’m genuinely curious what the strongest evidence is out there?

I’ve yet to see anything credible, but maybe my feed missed it.

Trump is the only modern era President to leave office with a lower net worth than when he entered. Going to make proving your point very difficult if not impossible.

 

[EvilMonkeyInTheCloset]

In your off the cuff opinion. Obviously people will disagree on these.

Nixon - sure, he was the OG (although seems like a small-timer now)

Ford - I feel like he was a straight shooter

Carter - Pretty sure one of the most upstanding human beings to ever hold the office

Reagan - Did some slimy stuff but not sure it was him directly or just people under him. Also, not sure if he personally benefited.

George HW Bush - Another with a checkered history in government but I don’t think he personally benefited. Pretty upstanding guy I think, who loved the country.

Bill Clinton - Shenanigans to personally benefit financially? I don’t recall hearing anything like that. Shenanigans in terms of banging everything he could? Sure

George Bush - For all his flaws, I don’t believe Bush ever tried to take advantage of the country for HIS personal gain. He seems like a straight shooter who was surrounded by people who weren’t so straight.

Obama - I don’t think I’ve ever heard of Obama scheming and scamming the country to make money off the presidency.

Biden - Everyone will point to “the big guy” stuff that was before his term. I do think he had a blind spot when it came to helping Hunter Biden, but not sure he did anything to personally and directly benefit. He’ll always be tainted by that though.

Trump - Would sell out the country for a buck or for self-preservation every day of the week.

Thoughts?

I only go back to the last couple years of the Reagan administration............

 

[fatpiggy]

Does Yahoo Finance qualify as credible?

Donald Trump’s net worth has nearly tripled during his second presidential term, rising from approximately $2.3 billion just before his 2025 inauguration to an estimated $6.5 billion to $7.1 billion. This massive financial growth marks a stark contrast to his first term in office (2017–2021), during which his wealth actually decreased from $3.7 billion to $2.5 billion. Financial analysts and media tracking databases attribute his recent multi-billion-dollar surge to several distinct factors.

Yahoo Finance
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Primary Drivers of Wealth Growth
Cryptocurrency Ventures:
The primary catalyst was his aggressive expansion into digital assets. Ventures like his family-backed World Liberty Financial ($WLFI) platform, governance tokens, and the official $TRUMP memecoin have added an estimated $1.8 billion to $3 billion to his overall portfolio.
Foreign Real Estate and Licensing Deals:
Unlike his first term, Trump did not divest or place his assets into a blind trust. The Trump Organization’s once-dormant branding and licensing branch experienced a 580% revenue explosion. Foreign developers seeking ties to the administration signed lucrative new luxury real estate deals in Saudi Arabia, Oman, the UAE, India, Qatar, Romania, and Vietnam.
Trump Media & Technology Group:
His majority equity stake in the parent company of Truth Social provides billions in volatile paper value. Though the stock fluctuates significantly and the platform has lost operational value, it remains a core pillar of his multi-billion-dollar valuation.
Legal Victories:
His net worth received a massive artificial stabilization when New York appellate judges threw out a highly publicized, half-billion-dollar civil fraud penalty, effectively saving him $500 million in liabilities.
Commercial Merchandise:
Direct-to-consumer monetization using the "Trump Brand" has generated millions through highly publicized sales of $100,000 victory watches, $1,000 branded guitars, and commemorative Bibles.

Forbes
+8
Ethics Concerns and Oversight Tracking
The rapid accumulation of billions while occupying the Oval Office has drawn immense scrutiny from legal scholars and political opponents:

WFIR News
Constitutional Violations: Watchdog groups like the Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington and Congressional Democrats argue these private business agreements directly violate the Constitution's Foreign and Domestic Emoluments Clauses.
Oversight Countermeasures: The House Oversight Committee Democrats launched a "Trump Family Digital Grift Wealth Tracker" to map incoming foreign revenue and digital asset sales, alleging unprecedented conflicts of interest.
Defense Perspectives: Trump, his family, and his allies strongly reject these corruption allegations. They maintain that his skyrocketing wealth reflects standard market forces and global confidence in American leadership.

Points taken.

I think it's hillarious they cite Truth Social. "His majority equity stake in the parent company of Truth Social provides billions in volatile paper value. Though the stock fluctuates significantly and the platform has lost operational value, it remains a core pillar of his multi-billion-dollar valuation."

They kicked him off Twitter, and now they are crying that he started his own platform. The irony is thiiiiiiick and probably why a lot of people don't take these concerns seriously.

It's not that it's cheating, it's that he is beating them at their own game.

 

[baltimorened]

I only go back to the last couple years of the Reagan administration............

I go back to Truman...our elected officials seem to have benefitted from their office for decades. Maybe not specifically while in office, but for certain after...Clinton with the global organization, Obama, Biden (who was poorest member of Congress, now worth $15million or so)....trump seems to be the only one benefitting so much while in office. Although in fairness if you enter with $2 billion, just investing smartly yields another couple hundred million a year. Some of the other investments he had before office, and some he apparently created while in office.

All of this is more public now because of all the social media..and of course the hatred for all trump does.

 

[fatpiggy]

I go back to Truman...our elected officials seem to have benefitted from their office for decades. Maybe not specifically while in office, but for certain after...Clinton with the global organization, Obama, Biden (who was poorest member of Congress, now worth $15million or so)....trump seems to be the only one benefitting so much while in office. Although in fairness if you enter with $2 billion, just investing smartly yields another couple hundred million a year. Some of the other investments he had before office, and some he apparently created while in office.

All of this is more public now because of all the social media..and of course the hatred for all trump does.

The crypto stuff bothers me. Not a good look on the surface. Won't pretend to know the details.

 

[RockyMtNole]

The only correct answer.

Poorly framed question if we are being honest. I’ve yet to see a president not do a book deal. Every single one has capitalized off the position.

You could argue Trump who donates his whole salary and who left office with a lower net worth than when he obtained office. Obama can’t say that. He was a community organizer now worth $50mm

Nothing wrong with book deals.
I’m talking putting your interests ahead of the country for personal gain. Maybe I should’ve phrased it that way.

They don’t all do it. No way.

 

[DFSNOLE_rivals]

Points taken.

I think it's hillarious they cite Truth Social. "His majority equity stake in the parent company of Truth Social provides billions in volatile paper value. Though the stock fluctuates significantly and the platform has lost operational value, it remains a core pillar of his multi-billion-dollar valuation."

They kicked him off Twitter, and now they are crying that he started his own platform. The irony is thiiiiiiick and probably why a lot of people don't take these concerns seriously.

It's not that it's cheating, it's that he is beating them at their own game.

Insider trading is not cheating? You're right. It's more than that. It's illegal.

 

[fatpiggy]

Nothing wrong with book deals.
I’m talking putting your interests ahead of the country for personal gain. Maybe I should’ve phrased it that way.

They don’t all do it. No way.

Yeah. Donald Trump is probably the only one.