OT: Looks like you should work in medicine

ZombieKissinger

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Dermatologists make 60 - 70k more than neurologists on average? Psychiatrists make more than general practitioners and 60 -70 more than general dentists??

Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..
Psychiatrists usually make over $300k. Varies some by setting and some of that is bonus. Derm pays well
 

horshack.sixpack

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Dermatologists make 60 - 70k more than neurologists on average? Psychiatrists make more than general practitioners and 60 -70 more than general dentists??

Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..

Yeah, that chart of pay ranges is off
I could literally put a chart up of all SPS poster's birthdays, sourced by their moms, and somebody would argue the data, likely without even checking the source or nature of the data...
 

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You really think an orthopedic surgeon goes in debt for nearly a million dollars and signs up to not earn a dime until they’re in their 30’s just so they can make $365k

Whoever made that chart is on crack.
 
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horshack.sixpack

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You really think an orthopedic surgeon goes in debt for nearly a million dollars and signs up to not earn a dime until they’re in their 30’s just so they can make $365k

Whoever made that chart is on crack.
I just posted a chart, so what I "think" is really irrelevant. It's the mean...and only considers base salary, and reflects the data source that they cited. That's the BLS data. I assume it might be more heavily weighted to academic and government roles vs private practice, particularly partner/owners. I also suspect that if you had all the private data, the relative positions wouldn't change too dramatically and the highest paid people in the US would be healthcare, on average, just like the chart suggests.
 

Walkthedawg

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I could literally put a chart up of all SPS poster's birthdays, sourced by their moms, and somebody would argue the data, likely without even checking the source or nature of the data...
Forgive us if some of us are a bit cynical of anything flashed in front of us without knowing the full story and population of the sample. I guess it's the Gen X in me.
 

ETK99

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I could literally put a chart up of all SPS poster's birthdays, sourced by their moms, and somebody would argue the data, likely without even checking the source or nature of the data...
Well, I just saw a contract this week, so I'm telling you, it's off. I've seen enough contracts the past several years you can act like an idiot all you want I a won't care. But yes, go medical if you can.
 

ZombieKissinger

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Well, I just saw a contract this week, so I'm telling you, it's off. I've seen enough contracts the past several years you can act like an idiot all you want I a won't care. But yes, go medical if you can.
Yeah, if the data is almost all coming from academic and government, then maybe, but it’s lower than people get paid outside of that and lower than average nationally. The medscape data below is more realistic, but I don’t know it for every specialty. Lots of variation by practice setting as well

  1. Orthopedics & Orthopedic Surgery: $564,000
  2. Plastic Surgery: $544,000
  3. Radiology: $526,000
  4. Cardiology: $520,000
  5. Gastroenterology: $513,000
  6. Urology: $505,000
  7. Anesthesiology: $501,000
  8. Otolaryngology: $484,000
  9. Oncology & Hematology: $472,000
  10. Dermatology: $454,000
  11. General Surgery: $434,000
  12. Critical Care: $418,000
  13. Ophthalmology: $409,000
  14. Pulmonary Medicine: $402,000
  15. Pathology: $388,000
  16. Emergency Medicine: $388,000
  17. Ob/Gyn: $372,000
  18. Nephrology: $363,000
  19. Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation: $362,000
  20. Psychiatry: $341,000
  21. Neurology: $332,000
  22. Allergy & Immunology: $319,000
  23. Internal Medicine: $294,000
  24. Rheumatology: $284,000
  25. Family Medicine: $281,000
  26. Infectious Diseases: $277,000
  27. Diabetes & Endocrinology: $274,000
  28. Public Health & Preventive Medicine: $269,000
  29. Pediatrics: $265,000
 

horshack.sixpack

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Well, I just saw a contract this week, so I'm telling you, it's off. I've seen enough contracts the past several years you can act like an idiot all you want I a won't care. But yes, go medical if you can.
I’ll do an SPS class on means and data interpretation later
 
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JackReacherDawg

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24 of 30 top paying jobs are medical field
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Disclaimer: I’m unsure of the political affiliation of this chart ***
"The survey does not include the self-employed, owners and partners in unincorporated firms, household workers, or unpaid family workers.

Wages for the OEWS survey are straight-time, gross pay, exclusive of premium pay. Base rate; cost-of-living allowances; guaranteed pay; hazardous-duty pay; incentive pay, including commissions and production bonuses; and tips are included. Excluded are overtime pay, severance pay, shift differentials, nonproduction bonuses, employer cost for supplementary benefits, and tuition reimbursements."

I imagine there's a lot of self-employed contractors getting excluded from the survey.
 
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Site won’t let me upload an image for some reason, but please google Health Care Administration salaries and cost rise vs physician salary rise over the past 50 years before you start complaining about physicians.
 
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Medical salaries are hard to pin down because some of the data includes semiretired, women with kids, and locum tenens part timers. When I retired I wanted to be done with it, and I didn't think medicine should be practiced sporadically..
 

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Yeah, healthcare work is a piece of cake. It’s easy as hell, EASY money. ****. Try being at the point of contact for all of the for all the current discontent with the system. Providers catch ALL of it from every side , patients and third party payers And the government. It’s so easy that’s why we are facing a serious shortage of providers now. Anybody that goes into it now is either solely after the money, or is seriously dedicated. The last category I tip my hat to. I hope their dedication survives. It’s amazing how many of us it does survive in.
 

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Several years ago, I saw a post with an open records listing the top grossing employees from North MS Health System from the year prior. By far, the top was the president, followed at least one or two more non-physician administrators.
The highest two physicians were a trauma surgeon and Rheumatologist, both around 1 million. Then a pretty good gap from there.
There are a lot of sub-niches within each specialty that will cause some variation. Like an interventional Cardiologist vs a more general Cardiologist. Or an Ortho that does hip and knee replacements. Family Medicine and Pediatrics are generally the lowest, although there’s more flexibility for family docs to possibly make more.
 

dickiedawg

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Our healthcare system is broken.
I don’t disagree, but I’m not sure this chart is necessarily evidence of that.
Why shouldn’t the fields that take a decade of schooling and mountains of expense be the highest paid?