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[tjfleck6]

Enjoy the fall, partisan lunatics who are dumb AF see the hammer blow last.

Hillary will win Utah in 2016, Trump will never come back in 2024, vote out Stephen Richer and you will get a Democrat recorder. Laughably wrong on all counts.

Thanks to incredible gerrymandering and the Supreme Court decision (not to mention RDS), the House will be close this year. The Senate map favors Rs and even NC has some doubt as a total flip this year.

You are quite disappointing Train. Your position to stand for civil liberties in America was almost unrivaled when the vax was mandated. Yet you caved, truly pathetic and weak AF to quote you.

A bronze tablet genius, highest bar score in Texas history, no doubt sitting on a great pile of cash you could have said hell no, lost your job, and walked into an even better job of your choosing. Instead of thanking the patriots who stood firm (including African Americans who endured the syphilis experiments) against modern tyranny, you insult them. Generally people who know they did wrong lash out at those who stood strong.

You’re welcome.

 

[Uncoach]

Welp. Looks like the end times and the mark of the beast as referenced in the Book of Revelations. Bill Gates is a meddling ****. Truly a person with evil intentions.

 

[Semi-elite R2R athlete]

Welp. Looks like the end times and the mark of the beast as referenced in the Book of Revelations. Bill Gates is a meddling ****. Truly a person with evil intentions.

You guys are truly insane.

 

[Semi-elite R2R athlete]

Hillary will win Utah in 2016, Trump will never come back in 2024, vote out Stephen Richer and you will get a Democrat recorder. Laughably wrong on all counts.

Thanks to incredible gerrymandering and the Supreme Court decision (not to mention RDS), the House will be close this year. The Senate map favors Rs and even NC has some doubt as a total flip this year.

You are quite disappointing Train. Your position to stand for civil liberties in America was almost unrivaled when the vax was mandated. Yet you caved, truly pathetic and weak AF to quote you.

A bronze tablet genius, highest bar score in Texas history, no doubt sitting on a great pile of cash you could have said hell no, lost your job, and walked into an even better job of your choosing. Instead of thanking the patriots who stood firm (including African Americans who endured the syphilis experiments) against modern tyranny, you insult them. Generally people who know they did wrong lash out at those who stood strong.

You’re welcome.

TJ is LARPing again.

 

[tjfleck6]

Welp. Looks like the end times and the mark of the beast as referenced in the Book of Revelations. Bill Gates is a meddling ****. Truly a person with evil intentions.

Seems totally legit now that deranged Icky disapproves. He is sad about his bed fellow Barney Frank passing away today. Icky submitted to Joe, good boy lollipop Barney just set the stage for a financial crash.

I will wait for Pastor Jeff to weigh in.

 

[illinimike]

You continue to embarrass yourself with every post. He cited a post about Chris Dudley leading Tina Kotek. Chris Dudley was crushed in the GOP primary LITERALLY LAST NIGHT, making that poll irrelevant. Why you are defending that post ... I will never know.

Chris Dudley may or may not be the "lowest rated Republican candidate IN A GENERAL ELECTION," I have no way of knowing. Winning a primary does not mean you will be more popular than a person who lost said primary among the general electorate. You seem to think a right-wing lunatic who wins a primary will be more popular among the broader electorate because he/she won the primary, relative to a moderate who loses the primary. That has repeatedly been proven false based on every statistical electoral analysis ... the closer a candidate is perceived to be to the center (assuming out corruption), the better said candidate does in general elections. This applies in all districts (far right, moderate, far left), it just doesn't matter much in the districts where a R or D are a lock to win.

Now there's a complex calculation as to where you'd want to nominate more ideologically pure and more moderate candidates, depends on the district. And the Oregon Democratic party assuredly sucks, plenty of examples of that. But the point was that Chris Dudley was a decent center, hideous FT shooter, and isn't very relevant to the Oregon gubernatorial race as of this morning.

I will be frank. I really don't like the people who post on this chain, with a couple of exceptions. They are generally deluded and basically have created their own Internet realities. Hopefully the emergence of Senator-Elect Talarico late this year will open some eyes, we shall see. Thank you for making this my last post for a few months.

And before I leave, Democrats are going to relentlessly crush the GOP come November. Because Trump - a malignant narcissist who just created a $1.776B slush fund - has a 38.5% approval rating. Democrats are also on course to win in 2028 and take back full control ... unless Rs do a course correction that shocks me, something like nominating Rubio, Kemp, or Youngkin. It's gonna be bad, and I'm going to laugh at you.

So true on creating internet realities. Some bizarre stuff that is modestly entertaining. The good thing is if you ever forget your beliefs you know where to go. LOL

 

[illinimike]

Hillary will win Utah in 2016, Trump will never come back in 2024, vote out Stephen Richer and you will get a Democrat recorder. Laughably wrong on all counts.

Thanks to incredible gerrymandering and the Supreme Court decision (not to mention RDS), the House will be close this year. The Senate map favors Rs and even NC has some doubt as a total flip this year.

You are quite disappointing Train. Your position to stand for civil liberties in America was almost unrivaled when the vax was mandated. Yet you caved, truly pathetic and weak AF to quote you.

A bronze tablet genius, highest bar score in Texas history, no doubt sitting on a great pile of cash you could have said hell no, lost your job, and walked into an even better job of your choosing. Instead of thanking the patriots who stood firm (including African Americans who endured the syphilis experiments) against modern tyranny, you insult them. Generally people who know they did wrong lash out at those who stood strong.

You’re welcome.

Imagine your greatest life achievement being a vaccine you didn’t take. Dude, you didn’t get dropped on the beaches of Normandy in 1944, LOL.

 

[illinimike]

Shy Trump voters is hilarious. Where do you find this stuff?

 

[Uncoach]

Tucker pushing anti-semitism.

 

[Uncoach]

Great candidate! He’s literally done nothing outside of blocking his own party’s President and his agenda. Congratulations, Texans.

 

[Uncoach]

Yes. It is this simple.

 

[AzIllini]

Speaking of climate change. Apparently it is a thing that government entities like Hawaii are suing major oil companies for climate change. "It is hotter, less rainfall, coastal flooding, stronger storms, etc". Their suit was filed in state court where the legal system is climate change friendly. They are using discovery to gather lots of documents.

Fortunately there is a case pending before the Supreme Court that says these cases should be Federal not state. Meanwhile the elected officials in Hawaii are doing their thing.

JOHN YOO, MICHAEL TOTH: Aloha State lawsuits push radical climate agenda

Hawaii wages litigation war against energy companies over alleged climate harms, raising questions about judicial impartiality and possible political corruption.

www.foxnews.com

 

[ILisBest]

Speaking of climate change. Apparently it is a thing that government entities like Hawaii are suing major oil companies for climate change. "It is hotter, less rainfall, coastal flooding, stronger storms, etc". Their suit was filed in state court where the legal system is climate change friendly. They are using discovery to gather lots of documents.

Fortunately there is a case pending before the Supreme Court that says these cases should be Federal not state. Meanwhile the elected officials in Hawaii are doing their thing.

JOHN YOO, MICHAEL TOTH: Aloha State lawsuits push radical climate agenda

Hawaii wages litigation war against energy companies over alleged climate harms, raising questions about judicial impartiality and possible political corruption.

www.foxnews.com

I stopped traveling to Hawaii years ago when I discovered there is more beautiful water everywhere in the Caribbean. I liked the Kona coffee in the mornings and the smell of their unique vegetation, but that was the end for me. We found the road to Hana to be a waste of a vacation day. I like the history there of Pearl Harbor and was able to have dinner on the Missouri once. I might return at some point for more of the Pearl Harbor tours, but that would be the only reason. Does anybody like the pig they cook at the Luau? I guess personal preference, but give me any of BVI, Cayman, Turks or even Key West.

 

[ILisBest]

 

[Semi-elite R2R athlete]

Tucker pushing anti-semitism.

Acknowledging that foreign money purchased a seat in the house is not anti-semitism. AIPAC was bragging about it yesterday.

Pretty curious watching you all cheerlead both a surveillance state and reduction our freedom of speech. All this anti-semitism nonsense is no different than the woke bs you screeched about for years.

 

[Semi-elite R2R athlete]

Yes. It is this simple.

Look forward to Trump advancing his agenda now that foreign influence has removed Massie. The next 6 months before MAGA is slaughtered in midterms and Trump is impeached should be glorious right?

 

[illinimike]

MAGA is similar to the Reagan Republican movement that did what? Actually paid attention to American worker/Main Street needs. The very minute Trump finishes off the Iranian regime and the Strait opens, gas comes back down well below where Joe and the Ho had it. IOW, right where it was before he went after Iran and will likely go lower.

We thinking this year still for all of this? Or are we still in Art of the Deal mode?

 

[Uncoach]

Shy Trump voters is hilarious. Where do you find this stuff?

This is the answer to your question about shy Trump posters. Perhaps you could follow the yellow brick road and ask the wizard for a thinking cap.

 

[Uncoach]

I stopped traveling to Hawaii years ago when I discovered there is more beautiful water everywhere in the Caribbean. I liked the Kona coffee in the mornings and the smell of their unique vegetation, but that was the end for me. We found the road to Hana to be a waste of a vacation day. I like the history there of Pearl Harbor and was able to have dinner on the Missouri once. I might return at some point for more of the Pearl Harbor tours, but that would be the only reason. Does anybody like the pig they cook at the Luau? I guess personal preference, but give me any of BVI, Cayman, Turks or even Key West.

Coffee in Guatemala is absolutely outstanding.

 

[Uncoach]

I’d rather fire Thune. Then vote in a Majority Leader who will fire her. Frankly, that “advisory” position should be completely eliminated no matter the Party.

 

[Uncoach]

We thinking this year still for all of this? Or are we still in Art of the Deal mode?

We thinking Trump is a fool for not already finishing the job.

 

[Uncoach]

Kick this ******* out of the country and send all the H1B’s he brought in back with him. H1B’s need to stop. The program is too easy to cheat. Bare minimum cost for each should be $2 mil.

 

[Uncoach]

 

[Uncoach]

It is indeed ironical.

 

[dtrain79]

Hillary will win Utah in 2016, Trump will never come back in 2024, vote out Stephen Richer and you will get a Democrat recorder. Laughably wrong on all counts.

Thanks to incredible gerrymandering and the Supreme Court decision (not to mention RDS), the House will be close this year. The Senate map favors Rs and even NC has some doubt as a total flip this year.

You are quite disappointing Train. Your position to stand for civil liberties in America was almost unrivaled when the vax was mandated. Yet you caved, truly pathetic and weak AF to quote you.

A bronze tablet genius, highest bar score in Texas history, no doubt sitting on a great pile of cash you could have said hell no, lost your job, and walked into an even better job of your choosing. Instead of thanking the patriots who stood firm (including African Americans who endured the syphilis experiments) against modern tyranny, you insult them. Generally people who know they did wrong lash out at those who stood strong.

You’re welcome.

I'm totally lost here.

First, I make tons of political predictions, some are wrong and some are right. I had really good years in 2010, 2014, 2018, and 2020. I had bad years in 2016 (I actually was very accurate in House/Senate but thought Trump was a sure loser, even though I'm pretty certain I didn't actually pick Hillary in Utah, just stated it was a viable possibility in the three candidate race there) and 2022. I thought 2024 was extremely close, but picked Harris (which was wrong). I got the Senate right (said it would flip R) and stated the House would follow the Prez winner.

Second, the vaccine. I agree with you that Covid vaccine mandates were/are bad, still do, never changed on that. I never agreed the vaccine was bad (I don't think I'd have lost my job without the vaccine, but I took the vaccine because (a) I thought on balance it probably would have some health benefit and (b) I believed - and still believe - that vaccination encouraged more and more people to "get back to normal."

So, on the civil liberties matter, I absolutely support your choice not to vaccinate. I've stated so many times. From how you've described yourself, I don't find the decision unreasonable. If you'd have been 10 years older and fat, I'd have thought such a choice was dumb. So I was and still am 100% pro-choice, but I also recognize that the scientific data on balance suggests that the vaccines were a net positive. I don't know why this is hard, you come off as crazy on the topic not because you laud choice or even rejecting the vaccine, but because you spout nonsense about how terrible the vaccine is.

I personally think people like you are hung up on the vaccines because it's the only hot topic from Covid that you can remain "anti-establishment." Every other anti-establishment position against the Covid response was either fully or significantly vindicated. But saying "the vaccine was evil" remains something not accepted by many outside that right wing of the GOP.

 

[ILisBest]

Coffee in Guatemala is absolutely outstanding.

I have not been, but I am going to Costa Rica in six weeks for the first time.

 

[tjfleck6]

Imagine your greatest life achievement being a vaccine you didn’t take. Dude, you didn’t get dropped on the beaches of Normandy in 1944, LOL.

Funny, I'm guessing you didn't get dropped there either. My grandfather was in France as an American serviceman during World War 1 if that counts. The difference between you and me is I have done work in war zones for our great warriors. Regardless, I have no need to claim false valor. But, I truly appreciate those who did serve and those who DIED (that is what Monday is about Mikey) for our country.

 

[tjfleck6]

I stopped traveling to Hawaii years ago when I discovered there is more beautiful water everywhere in the Caribbean. I liked the Kona coffee in the mornings and the smell of their unique vegetation, but that was the end for me. We found the road to Hana to be a waste of a vacation day. I like the history there of Pearl Harbor and was able to have dinner on the Missouri once. I might return at some point for more of the Pearl Harbor tours, but that would be the only reason. Does anybody like the pig they cook at the Luau? I guess personal preference, but give me any of BVI, Cayman, Turks or even Key West.

I love Hawaii and have spent considerable time there. Even on Oahu there are some incredible hikes that few people do that are spectacular (Wiliwilinui for one).

I've got a go-to beach on every island.

In all my visits, never did do a Luau. Try Maui Mike's (on Oahu) for incredible chicken.


Hiking to the Scenic Summit of Oahu's Wiliwilinui Ridge Trail - HAWAIʻI Magazine

 

[tjfleck6]

I'm totally lost here.

First, I make tons of political predictions, some are wrong and some are right. I had really good years in 2010, 2014, 2018, and 2020. I had bad years in 2016 (I actually was very accurate in House/Senate but thought Trump was a sure loser, even though I'm pretty certain I didn't actually pick Hillary in Utah, just stated it was a viable possibility in the three candidate race there) and 2022. I thought 2024 was extremely close, but picked Harris (which was wrong). I got the Senate right (said it would flip R) and stated the House would follow the Prez winner.

Second, the vaccine. I agree with you that Covid vaccine mandates were/are bad, still do, never changed on that. I never agreed the vaccine was bad (I don't think I'd have lost my job without the vaccine, but I took the vaccine because (a) I thought on balance it probably would have some health benefit and (b) I believed - and still believe - that vaccination encouraged more and more people to "get back to normal."

So, on the civil liberties matter, I absolutely support your choice not to vaccinate. I've stated so many times. From how you've described yourself, I don't find the decision unreasonable. If you'd have been 10 years older and fat, I'd have thought such a choice was dumb. So I was and still am 100% pro-choice, but I also recognize that the scientific data on balance suggests that the vaccines were a net positive. I don't know why this is hard, you come off as crazy on the topic not because you laud choice or even rejecting the vaccine, but because you spout nonsense about how terrible the vaccine is.

I personally think people like you are hung up on the vaccines because it's the only hot topic from Covid that you can remain "anti-establishment." Every other anti-establishment position against the Covid response was either fully or significantly vindicated. But saying "the vaccine was evil" remains something not accepted by many outside that right wing of the GOP.

Your 2024 prediction was related to your 2022 prediction that Trump would not beat RDS, etc. and certainly wouldn't beat a Democrat.

I agree on the "get back to normal" part. That was very important for the "afraid". As for choice, 100 percent behind it. I was mandated to take it at my job, I did not. I kept my job. I know real companies like GD and Raytheon where friends were mandated to take it and if they did not, they were forced to go through hell. They went through hell and still have their jobs. Kicking warriors out of the US military was insane for an untested vaccine (just no way to know "effects after 5 years" when it gets approved after 6 months).

It was far more than the vaccine with Covid. Access to events, bars, etc. was insane. Their intention was to restrict the movement and opportunities for the unvaxxed - that is pure evil. I went to Florida in June 2020 because Florida was "open". I went to Mexico summer 2021 because they had no vax mandate for incoming travelers. However, the stupid Democrats forced Americans to get a Covid test prior to reentering the US. Universities forcing that crap into the healthiest among us? Yet another atrocity.

I knew from the get go I didn't want it. But once Biden gave us the "Winter of Death", Deblasio offered free Shake Shack burgers, and Ohio offered a lottery ticket I knew I was right. In the original Total Recall, they wanted Arnold to take the pill, but once he saw the guy "sweat", he knew.

And the house margin will likely be single digits since there just aren't that many competitive districts anymore. As for the Senate, the flip in NC is in the cards at this time as is Collins' reelection.

 

[illinimike]

Funny, I'm guessing you didn't get dropped there either. My grandfather was in France as an American serviceman during World War 1 if that counts. The difference between you and me is I have done work in war zones for our great warriors. Regardless, I have no need to claim false valor. But, I truly appreciate those who did serve and those who DIED (that is what Monday is about Mikey) for our country.

Correct I did not. I'm also not calling myself a hero for not taking the vax. Why is it so hard for people to understand things here?

 

[Semi-elite R2R athlete]

Funny, I'm guessing you didn't get dropped there either. My grandfather was in France as an American serviceman during World War 1 if that counts. The difference between you and me is I have done work in war zones for our great warriors. Regardless, I have no need to claim false valor. But, I truly appreciate those who did serve and those who DIED (that is what Monday is about Mikey) for our country.

“I have no need to claim false valor” one sentence after claiming false valor. Lolololol

 

[Uncoach]

I guess the Republicans in charge of the Senate didn’t get the message from Tuesday. They’ve been on vacation/recess so much this year, they should go back to this being a part time job and meeting for a couple of weeks each quarter.

 

[dtrain79]

Your 2024 prediction was related to your 2022 prediction that Trump would not beat RDS, etc. and certainly wouldn't beat a Democrat.

I agree on the "get back to normal" part. That was very important for the "afraid". As for choice, 100 percent behind it. I was mandated to take it at my job, I did not. I kept my job. I know real companies like GD and Raytheon where friends were mandated to take it and if they did not, they were forced to go through hell. They went through hell and still have their jobs. Kicking warriors out of the US military was insane for an untested vaccine (just no way to know "effects after 5 years" when it gets approved after 6 months).

It was far more than the vaccine with Covid. Access to events, bars, etc. was insane. Their intention was to restrict the movement and opportunities for the unvaxxed - that is pure evil. I went to Florida in June 2020 because Florida was "open". I went to Mexico summer 2021 because they had no vax mandate for incoming travelers. However, the stupid Democrats forced Americans to get a Covid test prior to reentering the US. Universities forcing that crap into the healthiest among us? Yet another atrocity.

I knew from the get go I didn't want it. But once Biden gave us the "Winter of Death", Deblasio offered free Shake Shack burgers, and Ohio offered a lottery ticket I knew I was right. In the original Total Recall, they wanted Arnold to take the pill, but once he saw the guy "sweat", he knew.

And the house margin will likely be single digits since there just aren't that many competitive districts anymore. As for the Senate, the flip in NC is in the cards at this time as is Collins' reelection.

I don't think there's a long debate to have here, but I agree with you wholly that vaccine mandates were terrible policy. The military stuff was absurd and disgusting. My only dispute with you is about vaccine efficacy and danger. The vaccines probably could have been better at preventing the spread, but they absolutely lowered fatality rates. And I do not think there's much evidence for the claim that they are linked to widespread health issues or death.

I believe the vaccines cause lots of health problems about as much as I believe "Long Covid" was a common problem btw.