Was Massie the Last Honorable Republican in Public Office?
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He sure put out retarded xmas cards.
I don't think your post asks the right question, and IMO isn't a healthy question. There are about 300 republicans in the house and Senate, and multiples more in other public offices. Do you really think that there is only one honorable person in all of those numbers?
These people might not agree with all the things you do, but that doesn't make them dishonorable...
We know many are not honorable. I don't know why you object to my effort to identify some who are.
I do notice that you didn't come up with any.
A few years ago, 197 House Republicans voted against impeaching Trump for his role in the attempted subversion of the legal transfer of power after he lost.
147 Republicans votes against certifying the 2020 election.
We know that many if not most Rs failed the test AND that nearly all those remaining in office failed to meaningfully object.
The question is only "unhealthy" for those determined to defend these scum.
And yet I leave open the possibility that there are some honorable Republican politicians.
it is my personal opinion that the acrimony, and sometimes outward hatred, of people in opposite parties is simply not healthy for the democratic process. You apparently disagree. But, if I remember for some of your previous posts, you are also retired. If my recollection is accurate, then you were alive when the parties, which obviously disagreed with each other, were still able to work together for the betterment of the American people. Now, we spend as much time, seemingly, discussing how to "crush the souls" of opponents instead of how we can fix the immigration problems or, healthcare, or taxes, the debt, etc.
So if a Republican or MAGA would ask to name honorable democrats, my response would be the same...there are tons of honorable democrats, maybe the same number as republicans. I might either agree or disagree with their positions, but that doesn't mean either I or they are dishonorable.
I don't disagree. But I don't think the answer is to look the other way or to capitulate when confronted with rampant dishonor and dishonesty.
I found 3 candidates:
the U.S. Senate voted Tuesday to advance a resolution to force Trump to end the war in Iran for the first time. Four Republicans — Senators Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Bill Cassidy of Louisiana — joined most Democrats in favor of advancing the resolution
Cassidy of course is toast.
the U.S. Senate voted Tuesday to advance a resolution to force Trump to end the war in Iran for the first time. Four Republicans — Senators Susan Collins of Maine, Lisa Murkowski of Alaska, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Bill Cassidy of Louisiana — joined most Democrats in favor of advancing the resolution
Cassidy of course is toast.
wow..I've never been one of the election was stolen conspiratorists ...which used to be the mantra of MAGA loyalists. Those on the left took vehement opposite positions and castigated those who felt it was possible for an election could be stolen...no need for voter ID, mail in voting is secure, etc...
Now all of a sudden some apparent non MAGA folks are reversing position and highlighting that perhaps it is possible for an election to be stolen....questionable mail in ballots???
Maybe we really are in a position where we need to take a hard look at our election security.
Considering how wrong Trump is on most policies, and that Massie voted with Trump 32 of 38 times, I don't know that makes him "the last honorable Republican." He did say no a couple times, that doesn't feel enough with how bad Trump is.
I'd submit the last Republican has been gone for a while, anyone supporting Trump this much isn't true to the traditional R values.
Massie may be one of the least MAGAs, but 84% agreement.....
I'd submit the last Republican has been gone for a while, anyone supporting Trump this much isn't true to the traditional R values.
Massie may be one of the least MAGAs, but 84% agreement.....
that would probably be a good idea. I don't follow the Epstein issue as closely as a lot of you. At this point I've heard a lot of negatives but have yet to see any indictments. We've had 3.5 million pages of data released....if there's enough info in these for indictments, I can't understand why nothing is happening. And some of the accusations happen in the US, so states should have some jurisdiction, and none of them have done anything either. So, it's not just the DoJ
Find me a Republican who believes in balanced budgets, and doesn't bow to the MIC, and believes in the entire Constitution and Bill of Rights, and you'll have your answer. 4A should be just as important as 1A and 2A. Government agencies shouldn't be able to hide behind vague words such as "national security". Massie and Rand Paul had/have good intentions at times, but both ultimately fall in line when party leadership pushes them. At least Massie won't have to worry about that anymore.
If you don't openly oppose Trump's Second Reich, you not only have no honor, you have no humanity.
Massie is probably the closest to what you explained and he got pushed out because he didn't always fall in line.
What are you even trying to say here?
I'm agreeing with the OP there are no honorable Republicans anymore, and haven't been in a long time.
Letting Trump run roughshod over the Constitution and Federal Law for the last 15 months is ample evidence.
Kudos for saying that and letting it stand without a BUT at the end.