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MIGA dumped over $20 million into the race. It's not who the voters selected, it was who bought it.
So Democrats weren't pumping millions into Massie's campaign? :unsure:

Go back and read the postings in this thread @Gunny46 put up about who was funding Massie's campaign!

You Trump haters are just piqued he's winning with MAGA candidates after everything you malcontents have thrown at him. I've said it before, and I'll reiterate...if Trump completes his second term successfully, he will be THE most consequential President in my lifetime (I'm 69).

When you consider how he's not only reshaped the GOP with his MAGA agenda, but the entire global geo-political map in the Middle East, East Asia, South America & the Western hemisphere (including here in the US) tell me who's had a greater impact? Plus he's not even finished yet :eek:

Cuba, Greenland, Iran, China...NATO....the list goes on and on. Trump is transforming domestic politics, gutting wasteful Federal spending with DOGE and the fraud force...even transforming our future in outer Space!

I understand how frustrated folks on the Left are over him, but it's their own fault because they can't find a candidate or pick better policies to beat him!

He's as hated now as he is successful.
 

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Oh please! If Massie had won that race, you sore losers on the Left would be crowing "this is the end of Trump and MAGA...it's over"!!!!!!

Cry me a river. Massie got trounced...hammered...by a guy Trump hand picked! It's the same in virtually every race where Trump endorsed a candidate who supports his MAGA agenda, and voters agreed selecting those candidates!

If that's what voters want, if the candidates who are winning these races are the preferred choices of the voters, why do you or anyone else on the Left have a problem with that? :unsure:

You want more Democrats to win these races? Start offering better candidates or better policies! Otherwise shut up with all the whining and hand wringing.

Leftists this morning after Massie's earth shattering victory in Kentucky
No, I didn't want more democrats winning. I do not stand for their ideas.
I'm not sure what is so hard to understand that there is a massive portion (majority) of the country doesn't feel as if either party represents them. For Trump's last election that was who they appealed to after the worst presidency possible under Biden made them feel like they needed to get involved while there was a real opportunity for change. Now, we get the same thing we have always gotten, the uniparty, the swamp.
 
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So Democrats weren't pumping millions into Massie's campaign? :unsure:

Go back and read the postings in this thread @Gunny46 put up about who was funding Massie's campaign!

You Trump haters are just piqued he's winning with MAGA candidates after everything you malcontents have thrown at him. I've said it before, and I'll reiterate...if Trump completes his second term successfully, he will be THE most consequential President in my lifetime (I'm 69).

When you consider how he's not only reshaped the GOP with his MAGA agenda, but the entire global geo-political map in the Middle East, East Asia, South America & the Western hemisphere (including here in the US) tell me who's had a greater impact? Plus he's not even finished yet :eek:

Cuba, Greenland, Iran, China...NATO....the list goes on and on. Trump is transforming domestic politics, gutting wasteful Federal spending with DOGE and the fraud force...even transforming our future in outer Space!

I understand how frustrated folks on the Left are over him, but it's their own fault because they can't find a candidate or pick better policies to beat him!

He's as hated now as he is successful.

I thought he campaigned on anti-war? I must've been dreaming that.
My gas tank and wallet really appreciate his efforts.

Trump changed, not Massie.
 

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So Democrats weren't pumping millions into Massie's campaign? :unsure:

Go back and read the postings in this thread @Gunny46 put up about who was funding Massie's campaign!

You Trump haters are just piqued he's winning with MAGA candidates after everything you malcontents have thrown at him. I've said it before, and I'll reiterate...if Trump completes his second term successfully, he will be THE most consequential President in my lifetime (I'm 69).

When you consider how he's not only reshaped the GOP with his MAGA agenda, but the entire global geo-political map in the Middle East, East Asia, South America & the Western hemisphere (including here in the US) tell me who's had a greater impact? Plus he's not even finished yet :eek:

Cuba, Greenland, Iran, China...NATO....the list goes on and on. Trump is transforming domestic politics, gutting wasteful Federal spending with DOGE and the fraud force...even transforming our future in outer Space!

I understand how frustrated folks on the Left are over him, but it's their own fault because they can't find a candidate or pick better policies to beat him!

He's as hated now as he is successful.
I don't really care who was funding him. Massie couldn't be bought by anyone. He's a consitutionalist.
 

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No, I didn't want more democrats winning. I do not stand for their ideas.
I'm not sure what is so hard to understand that there is a massive portion (majority) of the country doesn't feel as if either party represents them. For Trump's last election that was who they appealed to after the worst presidency possible under Biden made them feel like they needed to get involved while there was a real opportunity for change. Now, we get the same thing we have always gotten, the uniparty, the swamp.

I thought he campaigned on anti-war? I must've been dreaming that.
My gas tank and wallet really appreciate his efforts.

Trump changed, not Massie.

Trump didn't charge. He's been saying for decades Iran can't have a nuclear weapon. Trump didn't want war. But he is doing what should have been done a long time ago. That goes for the Narco-Terrorism too.
 

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Trump didn't charge. He's been saying for decades Iran can't have a nuclear weapon. Trump didn't want war. But he is doing what should have been done a long time ago. That goes for the Narco-Terrorism too.
Summary, Trump didn't change, but I'll describe the ways he changes as how he didn't change.

Do you even hear your own damn self?

******* boomers.
 

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Summary, Trump didn't change, but I'll describe the ways he changes as how he didn't change.

Do you even hear your own damn self?

******* boomers.

I'm not boomer dipshit. As far as the conflict that's been going on from below our border all the way back to Iran I have covered that necessity numerous times over the past several years.

Maybe Massie should have gotten a Security Clarence and learned something instead of listening to podcasters who are getting paid to push narratives. Even though information was available to him as a member of Congress Dude resisted learning **** constantly.
 
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Read and learn about those that want to start a Civil War.


 

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We get it. You lost two of your cult members and Massie lost. Cry it out.




 
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MIGA dumped over $20 million into the race. It's not who the voters selected, it was who bought it.
Did Israel pay those voters?
Did those voters have a choice when they went into the booth?
I would love nothing more than a spending cap put on campaigns ...
Voters made a free choice and they chose a new candidate.
 
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No, I didn't want more democrats winning. I do not stand for their ideas.
I'm not sure what is so hard to understand that there is a massive portion (majority) of the country doesn't feel as if either party represents them. For Trump's last election that was who they appealed to after the worst presidency possible under Biden made them feel like they needed to get involved while there was a real opportunity for change. Now, we get the same thing we have always gotten, the uniparty, the swamp.
Couldn’t agree more. It’s only left vs right to the fanboys.
 

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Couldn’t agree more. It’s only left vs right to the fanboys.

The election was yesterday. Massie lost. More important stuff going on.

Like these turds that got radicalized online that are attempting to start a Civil War. They sound like a few dumbass here.




NEW BREAKING: San Diego Mosque Attack - “Sons of Tarrant” teens execute Dugin & Putin’s National Bolshevik accelerationist plot to ignite race war and collapse the West. This was no random shooting. 18-year-old Caleb Velasquez and 17-year-old Cain Clark - calling themselves the “Sons of Tarrant” - slaughtered three people at the Islamic Center of San Diego. They left a 75-page manifesto screaming “Race War Now,” plastered Black Sun symbols, and declared their mission: spark a racial holy war, trigger civil war, collapse the West, and birth white ethnostates from the rubble. It was deliberate accelerationism - the exact Dugin-inspired strategy of mass murder to speed up societal collapse.
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The brilliant Trevor Loudon just dropped the hammer:
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Same Black Sun symbol as Tarrant, Buffalo, El Paso, Poway.
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Same manifesto playbook and “Day of the Rope” calls.
🔺
Same National Bolshevik playbook - Putin’s toxic Nazi-communist hybrid weaponized to tear America and Europe apart from within. These weren’t lone wolves. They’re foot soldiers in Moscow’s war on Western civilization - designed to balkanize the West, fracture NATO, and hand global power to BRICS. The pattern is undeniable, symbols match, strategy matches. The Kremlin beneficiaries match. See the Full RAIR exclusive with Loudon.... The West is under attack and the puppet masters are in Moscow.


 
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Couldn’t agree more. It’s only left vs right to the fanboys.
Ha...ha...it's only a "problem" now because you "fan boys" on the Left are getting your azzes kicked by Trump backed MAGA candidates. None of the candidates he endorsed in GOP primary races yesterday lost, not one!

So you "fanboys" on the Left better figure out how to beat these MAGA candidates in the upcoming mid-terms. If you don't, you're gonna have to deal with a lot more MAGA policies.

I know you Leftists hate that, but since you can't kill Trump (or 'ya haven't yet) you'd better quickly figure out some better policies to beat him before he completely buries you worthless losers and your worthless loser party candidates.🤣
 

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Ha...ha...it's only a "problem" now because you "fan boys" on the Left are getting your azzes kicked by Trump backed MAGA candidates. None of the candidates he endorsed in GOP primary races yesterday lost, not one!

So you "fanboys" on the Left better figure out how to beat these MAGA candidates in the upcoming mid-terms. If you don't, you're gonna have to deal with a lot more MAGA policies.

I know you Leftists hate that, but since you can't kill Trump (or 'ya haven't yet) you'd better quickly figure out some better policies to beat him before he completely buries you worthless losers and your worthless loser party candidates.🤣
Again, you low IQ FNC brainwashed boomers can only think in black and white. Ugh. Trump good. Everyone else is commies and bad. Where's my Midol?

We are much further to the right than you are. Passing laws just to pass laws is a joke. We should be rolling back a TON of stuff. You know, limited government that adheres to the Bill of Rights and Amendment 10: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

You aren't ready for that. You're just ready for a nap.
 

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Couldn’t agree more. It’s only left vs right to the fanboys.
It was over when the twatbags tightened the rules after Ross Perot changed the outcome of an election. Now the parties have their politicians openly giving taxpayer money to entities and, in turn, those entities donate a shitload of that right back to their campaigns so no outsiders will ever be able to financially compete. All on our dime.

I'm surprised the Republicans let Trump in.
 
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Again, you low IQ FNC brainwashed boomers can only think in black and white. Ugh. Trump good. Everyone else is commies and bad. Where's my Midol?

We are much further to the right than you are. Passing laws just to pass laws is a joke. We should be rolling back a TON of stuff. You know, limited government that adheres to the Bill of Rights and Amendment 10: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

You aren't ready for that. You're just ready for a nap.
OT for the OT: You aren't a Sovereignty of the People person, are you?
 

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Again, you low IQ FNC brainwashed boomers can only think in black and white. Ugh. Trump good. Everyone else is commies and bad. Where's my Midol?

We are much further to the right than you are. Passing laws just to pass laws is a joke. We should be rolling back a TON of stuff. You know, limited government that adheres to the Bill of Rights and Amendment 10: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

You aren't ready for that. You're just ready for a nap.
Look at you! 🤣 I'm not the one who's nursing hemorrhoids today. I'm jazzed. My policies and my candidates are winning, winning HUGE in fact!

If those policies you stated are what you want, where's your candidates? Don't whine or be hatin'. Either join us in the MAGA movement, or vote for whoever you see offering something better?

You don't win by whining about who wins. You win by beating the folks who are beating you!

Good luck! 😆
 

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Look at you! 🤣 I'm not the one who's nursing hemorrhoids today. I'm jazzed. My policies and my candidates are winning, winning HUGE in fact!

If those policies you stated are what you want, where's your candidates? Don't whine or be hatin'. Either join us in the MAGA movement, or vote for whoever you see offering something better?

You don't win by winning about who wins. You win by beating the folks beating you!

Good luck! 😆
The next to last of those candidates was ousted by MIGA yesterday. They'll take out Rand on his next reelection.

Democrats - The Communist Party
Republicans - What was the Democrats Party
Conservatives/Libertarians/Constitutionalists - Nowhere to go
 

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It was over when the twatbags tightened the rules after Ross Perot changed the outcome of an election. Now the parties have their politicians openly giving taxpayer money to entities and, in turn, those entities donate a shitload of that right back to their campaigns so no outsiders will ever be able to financially compete. All on our dime.

I'm surprised the Republicans let Trump in.
Trump wasn't "let in". In fact the GOP establishment hated his guts (still do btw)

He forged his winning coalition with ideas, then delivering on them with policies. He took on the establishment in both parties, and in so doing he's completely flummoxed the Dems and is making them almost irrelevant, while he's doing a complete makeover of the GOP.

Almost as many Republicans still hate his guts as most Leftists do, but so far none of them have offered any better policies or better candidates to beat him!

Why not?

That hacks them off more than anything, because his victorious policies and candidates who support him are coming without their help and at their expense. It's absolutely comical how he's driving them stark raving mad! 🤣
 

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The next to last of those candidates was ousted by MIGA yesterday. They'll take out Rand on his next reelection.

Democrats - The Communist Party
Republicans - What was the Democrats Party
Conservatives/Libertarians/Constitutionalists - Nowhere to go
OK...then either find another party or a candidate who supports what you want, or else step aside. Just stop whining 😒
 
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The election was yesterday. Massie lost. More important stuff going on.

Like these turds that got radicalized online that are attempting to start a Civil War. They sound like a few dumbass here.




NEW BREAKING: San Diego Mosque Attack - “Sons of Tarrant” teens execute Dugin & Putin’s National Bolshevik accelerationist plot to ignite race war and collapse the West. This was no random shooting. 18-year-old Caleb Velasquez and 17-year-old Cain Clark - calling themselves the “Sons of Tarrant” - slaughtered three people at the Islamic Center of San Diego. They left a 75-page manifesto screaming “Race War Now,” plastered Black Sun symbols, and declared their mission: spark a racial holy war, trigger civil war, collapse the West, and birth white ethnostates from the rubble. It was deliberate accelerationism - the exact Dugin-inspired strategy of mass murder to speed up societal collapse.
🚨
The brilliant Trevor Loudon just dropped the hammer:
🔺
Same Black Sun symbol as Tarrant, Buffalo, El Paso, Poway.
🔺
Same manifesto playbook and “Day of the Rope” calls.
🔺
Same National Bolshevik playbook - Putin’s toxic Nazi-communist hybrid weaponized to tear America and Europe apart from within. These weren’t lone wolves. They’re foot soldiers in Moscow’s war on Western civilization - designed to balkanize the West, fracture NATO, and hand global power to BRICS. The pattern is undeniable, symbols match, strategy matches. The Kremlin beneficiaries match. See the Full RAIR exclusive with Loudon.... The West is under attack and the puppet masters are in Moscow.




You sound like the idiots discussed above. Are you still rooting for Putin?



Again, you low IQ FNC brainwashed boomers can only think in black and white. Ugh. Trump good. Everyone else is commies and bad. Where's my Midol?

We are much further to the right than you are. Passing laws just to pass laws is a joke. We should be rolling back a TON of stuff. You know, limited government that adheres to the Bill of Rights and Amendment 10: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

You aren't ready for that. You're just ready for a nap.
 

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The next to last of those candidates was ousted by MIGA yesterday. They'll take out Rand on his next reelection.

Democrats - The Communist Party
Republicans - What was the Democrats Party
Conservatives/Libertarians/Constitutionalists - Nowhere to go

Why was Massie getting so much support from so many Proggresives, Communist, Nazis and Democrats ? Seriously just STFU already. Everything you are complaining about has been explained to you numerous times. If he would have stayed a Libertarian instead of hanging out with retards he probably wouldn't have got challenged and would have won. He's been there 14 years. I thought you supported term limits. Once upon a time he did.
 

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Why was Massie getting so much support from so many Proggresives, Communist, Nazis and Democrats ? Seriously just STFU already. Everything you are complaining about has been explained to you numerous times. If he would have stayed a Libertarian instead of hanging out with retards he probably wouldn't have got challenged and would have won. He's been there 14 years. I thought you supported term limits. Once upon a time he did.
Massie sunk his re election when he voted against the largest tax cut in American history IMO. The so called big, beautiful bill wasn't perfect, but it was the best a nearly evenly divided Congress could hope to pass.

While the entire bill wasn't perfect, most of it was good and the tax cuts were real. Massie told his constituents to forget about keeping more of their own money, and worse he offered or sponsored nothing better as an alternative.

He preferred the status quo to change and his voters said yesterday "see 'ya". If Gallerin votes against tax reform, budget reform, education reform, immigration reform, border enforcement, and entitlement reforms like Massie did, he won't be there long either.

It's not about Trump which the Left fails to understand. It's about making structural reforms in how we both fund and administer these wasteful and often needless programs!
 
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Massie sunk his re election when he voted against the largest tax cut in American history. The so called big, beautiful bill wasn't perfect, but it was the best a nearly evenly divided Congress could hope to pass.

While the entire bill wasn't perfect, most of it was good and the tax cuts were real. Massie told his constituents to forget about keeping more of their own money, and worse he offered or sponsored nothing better as an alternative.

He preferred the status quo to change and his voters said yesterday "see 'ya". If Gallerin votes against tax reform, budget reform, education reform, immigration reform, border enforcement, and entitlement reforms like Massie did, he won't be there long either.

It's not about Trump which the Left fails to understand. It's about making structural reforms in how we both fund and administer these wasteful and often needless programs!


Gallerin will vote like Massie did 90% of the time. The other 10% he will be there when Trump needs him.
 
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Gallerin will vote like Massie did 90% of the time. The other 10% he will be there when Trump needs him.
Yup. Like full funding for ICE, and finishing the wall! Trump wants to ax the DOE, EPA, FDA, and Commerce Dept. Massie voted against all that and more.

Trump made it a personal commitment to defeat him, and he did.
 

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the largest tax cut in American history IMO. The so called big, beautiful bill wasn't perfect
Jesus **** you morons are definitely brainwashed.

BBB increased the debt by over $3 trillion in combined tax cuts and spending increases. You know what that's causes? That's called more inflation. You know, that thing you bitched about when Biden did it, but totally forgave Trump when he did it in his first term with the CARES Act, and then again with BBB.

Massie told his constituents to forget about keeping more of their own money, and worse he offered or sponsored nothing better as an alternative.
He did sponsor individual appropriation bills rather than an omnibus.

For your edification, since you are oblivious to the world outside of FoxNews, here are other single-subject bills he had sponsored, but never got traction with MIGA:

HJRes12- Congressional Term Limits
HJRes28-Codifying 9 SCOTUS Justices
HR7- Eliminate Taxpayer funded abortions
HR162-First Amendment Accountability Act
HR221- Abolish ATF
HR645-National Constitutional Carry Act
HR904- No tax on Social Security Act
HR1040-Senior Citizens Tax Elimination Act
HR1137- Remove vehicle kill switches
HR1671-Justice for Vaccine Injured Veterans
HR4668-Removal of Liability for Vaccine Mafia
HR4837-Written Informed consent act
HR5704-Repeal Smith-Mundt Act
HR8470-Surveillance Accountability Act

He also co-sponsored
HR6635- Single Subject Spending Bills
HR5577- No Social Security for Illegal Aliens
HR8268-Disarm IRS Act
HR7281-Reverse OSHA vaccine mandates Act
HR6395- No Vaccine Mandates Act
 

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Jesus **** you morons are definitely brainwashed.

BBB increased the debt by over $3 trillion in combined tax cuts and spending increases. You know what that's causes? That's called more inflation. You know, that thing you bitched about when Biden did it, but totally forgave Trump when he did it in his first term with the CARES Act, and then again with BBB.


He did sponsor individual appropriation bills rather than an omnibus.

For your edification, since you are oblivious to the world outside of FoxNews, here are other single-subject bills he had sponsored, but never got traction with MIGA:

HJRes12- Congressional Term Limits
HJRes28-Codifying 9 SCOTUS Justices
HR7- Eliminate Taxpayer funded abortions
HR162-First Amendment Accountability Act
HR221- Abolish ATF
HR645-National Constitutional Carry Act
HR904- No tax on Social Security Act
HR1040-Senior Citizens Tax Elimination Act
HR1137- Remove vehicle kill switches
HR1671-Justice for Vaccine Injured Veterans
HR4668-Removal of Liability for Vaccine Mafia
HR4837-Written Informed consent act
HR5704-Repeal Smith-Mundt Act
HR8470-Surveillance Accountability Act

He also co-sponsored
HR6635- Single Subject Spending Bills
HR5577- No Social Security for Illegal Aliens
HR8268-Disarm IRS Act
HR7281-Reverse OSHA vaccine mandates Act
HR6395- No Vaccine Mandates Act

Will you stop pretending you care about Massie and Libertarians. You are hoping a Democrat can now win the seat. The election was last night. It's already old news.
 

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Will you stop pretending you care about Massie and Libertarians. You are hoping a Democrat can now win the seat. The election was last night. It's already old news.
A to H

Again Mr. Black and White, you mistake my apathy for caring at all. Communists, Democrat light, it all ends in the same place.
 

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A to H

Again Mr. Black and White, you mistake my apathy for caring at all. Communists, Democrat light, it all ends in the same place.

Did I mention Massie lost. His career ends in November. It's hard for a Real Libertarian to get elected anywhere. He probably just screwed that up for others. You should go take your frustrations out on him and his dumbass advisors. Just don't commit any violence.
 

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Jesus **** you morons are definitely brainwashed.

BBB increased the debt by over $3 trillion in combined tax cuts and spending increases. You know what that's causes? That's called more inflation. You know, that thing you bitched about when Biden did it, but totally forgave Trump when he did it in his first term with the CARES Act, and then again with BBB.


He did sponsor individual appropriation bills rather than an omnibus.

For your edification, since you are oblivious to the world outside of FoxNews, here are other single-subject bills he had sponsored, but never got traction with MIGA:

HJRes12- Congressional Term Limits
HJRes28-Codifying 9 SCOTUS Justices
HR7- Eliminate Taxpayer funded abortions
HR162-First Amendment Accountability Act
HR221- Abolish ATF
HR645-National Constitutional Carry Act
HR904- No tax on Social Security Act
HR1040-Senior Citizens Tax Elimination Act
HR1137- Remove vehicle kill switches
HR1671-Justice for Vaccine Injured Veterans
HR4668-Removal of Liability for Vaccine Mafia
HR4837-Written Informed consent act
HR5704-Repeal Smith-Mundt Act
HR8470-Surveillance Accountability Act

He also co-sponsored
HR6635- Single Subject Spending Bills
HR5577- No Social Security for Illegal Aliens
HR8268-Disarm IRS Act
HR7281-Reverse OSHA vaccine mandates Act
HR6395- No Vaccine Mandates Act
With an almost evenly divided Congress, there was NO WAY those individual bills could have passed, which means "status quo"

(not so sure that wasn't the intent)

At any rate, as I said the BBB wasn't perfect, but lots of those things you mentioned were in it (no tax on SS, and others) but most importantly those tax cuts were real! Americans were facing the largest tax increases in history if it didn't pass and Massie voted against it.

Yes we still have massive deficits, but so much of that is tied to fraud, waste and abuse which we're trying to get a handle on now through DOGE and the Fraud task force.

Entitlements are also huge drivers of our national debts, and Massie opposed most reforms for those programs.

Again, in my opinion, opposing the BBB is when he lost his re-election, not when Trump found Gallerin who was willing to run against him. Gallerin was just the gun, Massie's voting record against Trump's priority initiatives was the ammo used to kill him off.
 
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Nope. We have named our property and claim it as our own country in private, however.
I think we all do that to some degree. I was Just curious. Your post made me wonder.

i love watching those sovereign clowns tell a judge they have no authority. When the right judge entertains it and engages with them, it doesn’t get any funnier
 

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Anyone listening to this idiot these days is delusional and probably under surveillance.





It's not the Libertarians. It's the *** Fuentes and those retards above. They are trying to get Democrats elected hoping it will accelerate a Civil War.
 

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Jesus **** you morons are definitely brainwashed.

BBB increased the debt by over $3 trillion in combined tax cuts and spending increases. You know what that's causes? That's called more inflation. You know, that thing you bitched about when Biden did it, but totally forgave Trump when he did it in his first term with the CARES Act, and then again with BBB.


He did sponsor individual appropriation bills rather than an omnibus.

For your edification, since you are oblivious to the world outside of FoxNews, here are other single-subject bills he had sponsored, but never got traction with MIGA:

HJRes12- Congressional Term Limits
HJRes28-Codifying 9 SCOTUS Justices
HR7- Eliminate Taxpayer funded abortions
HR162-First Amendment Accountability Act
HR221- Abolish ATF
HR645-National Constitutional Carry Act
HR904- No tax on Social Security Act
HR1040-Senior Citizens Tax Elimination Act
HR1137- Remove vehicle kill switches
HR1671-Justice for Vaccine Injured Veterans
HR4668-Removal of Liability for Vaccine Mafia
HR4837-Written Informed consent act
HR5704-Repeal Smith-Mundt Act
HR8470-Surveillance Accountability Act

He also co-sponsored
HR6635- Single Subject Spending Bills
HR5577- No Social Security for Illegal Aliens
HR8268-Disarm IRS Act
HR7281-Reverse OSHA vaccine mandates Act
HR6395- No Vaccine Mandates Act
Here are some major provisions in the BBB and Massie voted against ALL of it!

Border Patrol agents and vehicles, and Federal Law Enforcement Training Center improvements.$7.8 billion
Border technology and vetting$6.2 billion
Operation Stonegarden (funding to state and local law enforcement agencies to support border enforcement)$450 million
Border processing, including for unaccompanied children, Remain in Mexico, and expedited removal$2.1 billion
Prosecutions of noncitizens, compensating local governments for incarcerating noncitizens, combatting drug trafficking, immigration judges$3.3 billion
Detention capacity expansion$45 billion
Enforcement and removal, including hiring ICE agents, transportation costs, and detaining families$29.9 billion
State immigration and border enforcement cost-reimbursement funds$13.5 billion
DHS cost-reimbursement fund for border enforcement$10.0 billion
DOD support for immigration and border enforcement$1.0 billion
Total$170.7 billion

Individual Provisions​

  • Make the expiring rate and bracket changes of the TCJA permanent and increase the inflation adjustment for all brackets excluding the 37 percent threshold
  • Make the expiring standard deduction levels permanent and temporarily boost the standard deduction by $2,000 for joint filers, $1,500 for head of household filers, and $1,000 for all other filers from 2025 through the end of 2028
  • Make the personal exemption elimination permanent
  • Make the $750,000 limitation and the exclusion of interest on home equity loans for the home mortgage interest deduction permanent\
  • Make the state and local tax (SALT) deduction cap permanent at a higher threshold of $40,000, phasing down to $10,000 at a rate of 30 percent beginning at modified adjusted gross income of $250,000 for single filers and $500,000 for joint filers. The cap and income thresholds increase by 1 percent per year over the next 10 years.
  • Make other changes and limitations to itemized deductions permanent, including: the limitation on personal casualty losses and wagering losses and termination of miscellaneous itemized deductions, Pease limitation on itemized deductions, and certain moving expenses
  • Limit the value of itemized deductions to 32 or 35 cents on the dollar for those in the top tax bracket
  • Make the expiring child tax credit permanent; temporarily increase the maximum credit to $2,500 from 2025 through the end of 2028; inflation adjust the $2,000 max in years thereafter
  • Make the increase in the alternative minimum tax exemption and phaseout thresholds permanent and adjust related inflation indexing calculations
  • Repeal several Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) green tax subsidies primarily aimed at individuals, such as electric vehicle and residential energy efficiency credits, after 2025
  • Temporarily make tip income deductible for tax years 2025 through 2028 for individuals in traditionally and customarily tipped industries, excluding highly compensated employees
  • Temporarily make auto loan interest deductible for itemizers and non-itemizers for autos with final assembly in the United States for tax years 2025 through 2028; deduction limited to $10,000 and phases out by $200 for every $1,000 of income above $100,000 for single filers and $200,000 for joint filers
  • Temporarily increase the additional standard deduction for seniors by $4,000 for tax years 2025 through 2028 and extend the increase to itemizers; larger deduction phases out at a 4 percent rate when modified adjusted gross income exceeds $75,000 for single filers and $150,000 for joint filers
  • Temporarily make overtime compensation deductible for the premium portion of overtime for itemizers and non-itemizers for tax years 2025 through 2028, excluding highly compensated employees and qualified tips



Analysis:
Structured as a budget reconciliation package to circumvent traditional filibuster requirements, the bill integrates policy priorities from across 10 Senate committees into a unified legislative framework. The extraordinary breadth and ambition of this package make it one of the most consequential pieces of legislation in recent congressional history. With its expansive scope spanning 870 pages, this landmark legislation will impact virtually every industry and household in the U.S. through significant policy shifts, funding reallocations and regulatory changes. This Holland & Knight alert breaks down the key provisions of the One Big Beautiful Bill Act by sector, highlighting the most consequential policy changes, funding shifts and regulatory implications across multiple domains, including immigration, energy, Medicare, and tax policies


Sources:

https://www.americanimmigrationcoun...g-beautiful-bill-immigration-border-security/

https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/big-beautiful-bill-house-gop-tax-plan/

https://www.instituteforenergyresea...provisions-in-the-one-big-beautiful-bill-act/
 

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Massie was a con man...a political charlatan who talked more than he delivered. When it came time to cast the tough votes, he took positions he knew wouldn't pass. When serious proposals were offered to reform entitlements, he voted against them claiming they "didn't go far enough". Most of all, when Americans were facing massive tax increases without provisions in the BBB (outlined above) he once again voted against it! All of it, even the best provisions!!!!

Same thing with immigration reform. He claimed he wanted to end mass illegal immigration, yet he voted against almost every proposal to stop it, including full funding for the wall and ICE! :mad:

You can't complain about "the system" then work to stop honest attempts to fix it! I'm so glad he lost, because there wasn't a genuine bone in his body.

(analysis from AI sources)
Thomas Massie has opposed entitlement reforms and tax reforms. He criticized legislation for not addressing entitlement reform and for perpetuating ineffective tax policies.

Opposition to Entitlement Reforms​

Thomas Massie has consistently opposed reforms related to entitlement programs. He has criticized various legislative efforts for failing to address the necessary reforms for Social Security and Medicare. His stance is that real solutions are needed to avert the nation's debt crisis, which he believes cannot be achieved without immediate spending cuts and entitlement reform.

Opposition to Tax Reforms​

Massie has also opposed certain tax reforms, particularly those he views as ineffective. He has described legislation that increases taxes while labeling them as cuts as misleading. For instance, he voted against the American Taxpayer Relief Act, arguing that it merely postponed necessary spending cuts and did not reform the bloated tax code.

Summary of Key Points​

AspectPosition
Entitlement ReformsOpposed due to lack of necessary reforms for Social Security and Medicare
Tax ReformsOpposed legislation that he believes misrepresents tax increases as cuts

Thomas Massie opposed immigration reforms such as the Southwest Border Supplemental Appropriations Act, which aimed to provide funding to address the illegal immigration crisis. He argued that the President's policies contributed to the problem and that existing laws should be enforced instead

Thomas Massie's Stance on Immigration Reforms​

Opposition to Specific Bills​

  • Southwest Border Supplemental Appropriations Act (HR 5230):
    • Massie voted against this bill, which aimed to allocate $694 million to address the illegal immigration crisis.
    • He criticized the President for not enforcing existing immigration laws, believing that funding would not resolve the underlying issues.
  • DACA Program (HR 5272):
    • Massie supported a bill that would prohibit the expansion of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.
    • He argued that DACA encouraged illegal immigration and that new arrivals should not receive amnesty.

Key Arguments​

  • Massie contended that the President's policies were a significant factor in the surge of illegal immigration.
  • He emphasized the need for enforcement of current immigration laws rather than additional funding or new programs.
In summary, Thomas Massie has opposed immigration reforms that he believes do not address the root causes of illegal immigration and has advocated for stricter enforcement of existing laws.

*Again, absent from his stated "support" for these initiatives, he offered nothing substantial as better alternatives, and voted against common sense legislation aimed at solving the most immediate problems ie: tax cuts in the BBB, entitlement funding changes, less regulation on domestic energy production, and strict border enforcement to curb illegal immigration. He routinely voted against ALL of that, as well as every major initiative Trump proposed! :cautious:

Guy was a total phony...who also hated Israel! So glad Trump bounced him!

I told 'ya I was gonna get rid of him!

Yes you did DJT...and you did too!

I didn't think he meant it, or could really pull it off?

Well Tommie boy...looks like you found out the hard way? :LOL:

Trump picks off Massie in Kentucky

excerpt:
President Donald Trump finally got his revenge on Kentucky Rep. Thomas Massie. The libertarian-leaning iconoclast who has been a hindrance to some of the president’s biggest priorities lost to Trump-endorsed former Navy SEAL Ed Gallrein in Kentucky’s 4th District on Tuesday.
 
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If someone is encouraging violence or for you to break the law. They aren't your friends.




JUST IN: Rep. Jim Jordan announces the "human sources" who infiltrated January 6th might've been PAID BY THE SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER This is insane. Expose it all and make arrests! REP. JIM JORDAN: "Were any of the guys they were paying, was the Biden Justice Department paying these same guys? Confidential human sources. We know 26 confidential human sources were at the Capitol in January 6." "They weren't authorized to do so. I want to know if any of these guys were double dipping and taking money from the government and from the Southern Poverty Law Center. That's one of the things we want to find out."