If Lee is named head coach, what roster moves does he make?

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I don't know how/why he retains many players. It is obvious this team quit on the season a long time ago. Would Lee reward them with retaining them?

Building a team by starting with a group of quitters seems like a surefire recipe for failure.

Also, does he replace all of the asst. coaches?
 

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What could Lee have done at that point regarding personnel?
Not play guys that quit on him? I doubt the bench has a quitter on it.
Now I'm not saying the guys quit, maybe they did. The OP was saying they clearly quit and in the same sentence wonders what changes Lee should make next year. I'm simply saying If the team quit (and a lot of people think so), you cant have Lee.
 

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Not play guys that quit on him? I doubt the bench has a quitter on it.
Now I'm not saying the guys quit, maybe they did. The OP was saying they clearly quit and in the same sentence wonders what changes Lee should make next year. I'm simply saying If the team quit (and a lot of people think so), you cant have Lee.
If this team didn't quit, that is a damning indictment of their actual ability to play baseball.
 

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It's an embarrassment that Lee would even be considered as head coach. He got the interim job to try to make a case to retain him. He made no case at all. It would have been like us hiring Shawn Elliott after the 2015 season. He wasn't left with much but was given the keys and we lost to The Citadel and hardly won a game. Lee loses to The Citadel and Winthrop and whatever midweek small school we face and every SEC series. As previously stated, he has been an active member of this dismal program the last two seasons. He's part of the problem.
 
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Guy on the mound for Tenn is getting his second start of the season in the SEC tournament. Tough pill to swallow for sure.
 
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It's an embarrassment that Lee would even be considered as head coach. He got the interim job to try to make a case to retain him. He made no case at all. It would have been like us hiring Shawn Elliott after the 2015 season. He wasn't left with much but was given the keys and we lost to The Citadel and hardly won a game. Lee loses to The Citadel and Winthrop and whatever midweek small school we face and every SEC series. As previously stated, he has been an active member of this dismal program the last two seasons. He's part of the problem.
Swept Missouri and won series against Kentucky.
 

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If this team didn't quit, that is a damning indictment of their actual ability to play baseball.
We've fielded the ball poorly at least four times so far and the third inning is not over in this tournament. You can certainly make the case either way.
 
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About 2 hours from now you inform Monte Lee -graciously- that he will not be considered for the permanent role. Whenever the team returns to Columbia (after Monte's had his debrief with them) you encourage ANYONE looking to transfer to do so ahead of a new coach so that they can find a suitable landing spot. Players that decide to stay will be evaluated at the mercy of the future hire. Given that this is historically our worst team ever I hope that most are told to kick rocks. So be it. Recruit JUCO's aggressively while mining undervalued transfers.

Rebuild. Suffer initially but set program expectations. Exterminate excess baggage, including any/all mythical links to prior glory days.
 
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It's an embarrassment that Lee would even be considered as head coach. He got the interim job to try to make a case to retain him. He made no case at all. It would have been like us hiring Shawn Elliott after the 2015 season. He wasn't left with much but was given the keys and we lost to The Citadel and hardly won a game. Lee loses to The Citadel and Winthrop and whatever midweek small school we face and every SEC series. As previously stated, he has been an active member of this dismal program the last two seasons. He's part of the problem.
My sentiments exactly!!
 
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Doesn’t matter, he was given the keys and drove this program right into a ditch!!
Engine and steering troubles gave him little choice. I contend that few could have done much better in that short time.

That does not mean that giving Lee more time would necessarily result in the kind of success USC expects.
 

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Engine and steering troubles gave him little choice. I contend that few could have done much better in that short time.

That does not mean that giving Lee more time would necessarily result in the kind of success USC expects.
For sure, he inherited an unfixable mess, but I think the team actually got progressively worse as the season went on. Is it his fault? I don't know. I'd say maybe 95% Mainieri, 5% Lee.

What he didn't show is any reason why he SHOULD be the next head coach.

Going back further, he never even got Clemson to the Supers.

I just can't come up with a reason why we should even consider him.
 

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For sure, he inherited an unfixable mess, but I think the team actually got progressively worse as the season went on. Is it his fault? I don't know. I'd say maybe 95% Mainieri, 5% Lee.

What he didn't show is any reason why he SHOULD be the next head coach.

Going back further, he never even got Clemson to the Supers.

I just can't come up with a reason why we should even consider him.
Because he really wants to be here.
 
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For sure, he inherited an unfixable mess, but I think the team actually got progressively worse as the season went on. Is it his fault? I don't know. I'd say maybe 95% Mainieri, 5% Lee.

What he didn't show is any reason why he SHOULD be the next head coach.

Going back further, he never even got Clemson to the Supers.

I just can't come up with a reason why we should even consider him.
Agreed., was it ALL lee's fault, NO, but he was the #1 assistant, He didnt (Obviuosly) do much Assisting. He was the second man in charge of this DISASTER, IMO he needs to take at least 40%-50% of the blame. He should not be given the Head coaching position PERIOD!!
 

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Agreed., was it ALL lee's fault, NO, but he was the #1 assistant, He didnt (Obviuosly) do much Assisting. He was the second man in charge of this DISASTER, IMO he needs to take at least 40%-50% of the blame. He should not be given the Head coaching position PERIOD!!
It was my understanding that Lee had his hands on in some form... hitting. Don't know if he was designated the hitting coach prior to taking the HC job but he at least played a role in helping the hitting cause. If I'm wrong, someone correct me. If I'm right, I don't see how anyone can defend what he at the very least shared a role in producing here.
 
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Agreed., was it ALL lee's fault, NO, but he was the #1 assistant, He didnt (Obviuosly) do much Assisting. He was the second man in charge of this DISASTER, IMO he needs to take at least 40%-50% of the blame. He should not be given the Head coaching position PERIOD!!
Word was that Mainieri had him hamstrung. Still.....

I believe that had Lee gone .500 for the balance of the season, the discussion here would be a little bit different.
 

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Word was that Mainieri had him hamstrung. Still.....

I believe that had Lee gone .500 for the balance of the season, the discussion here would be a little bit different.
.500 with this team would have been a great accomplishment.
 
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It was my understanding that Lee had his hands on in some form... hitting. Don't know if he was designated the hitting coach prior to taking the HC job but he at least played a role in helping the hitting cause. If I'm wrong, someone correct me. If I'm right, I don't see how anyone can defend what he at the very least shared a role in producing here.
Not sure we will know the answer on hitting coach etc. For what it's worth here is why he will be retained, IMO. We are most likely looking at dismissing a basketball and/or football coach in the near future. Need money to fix that, revenue producing sports get priority. I am a baseball first fan, then football and basketball. Again as I've said, make his contract structured in a way it won't hurt the possible rehire in the future.
I want this baseball program fixed, I love the sport!
 
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Lee had his chance and did not get it done.

 

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Not sure we will know the answer on hitting coach etc. For what it's worth here is why he will be retained, IMO. We are most likely looking at dismissing a basketball and/or football coach in the near future. Need money to fix that, revenue producing sports get priority. I am a baseball first fan, then football and basketball. Again as I've said, make his contract structured in a way it won't hurt the possible rehire in the future.
I want this baseball program fixed, I love the sport!
I hear ya and you may be right. My concern is more optics than anything else if he's hired. Like the board and AD makes a lazy hire and can wash their hands of it. Kinda feel like he'll be behind the eight ball right off the bat so to speak but if he's the coach, so be it. I want to win too.
 
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