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AzIllini

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This is not only interesting because Calif is the only state stiffing repaying covid era debt to the US to the tune of $21 billion, but that the congressman introducing a bill to make they pay up is a Republican from California. Probably one of those that Newsome gerrymandered out of existence in 2026.

 

dtrain79

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Btw, I personally think the only reason that MAGA folks (not MAHA, who are just health cranks) are still talking about the Covid vaccine is overwhelmingly BECAUSE ALL OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE DEEMED "CONSPIRACIES" WERE LATER VINDICATED.

1. Covid came from a lab. Remember the lefties laughing about how people could believe this. Turns out, nearly every credible intelligence service and scientist now thinks Covid likely came from the Wuhan Virology Institute ... go figure.

2. Lockdowns are bad. Those of us who opposed lockdowns were once deemed uncaring monsters (even murderers to some). Turns out, while there's a defensible argument for lockdowns, they didn't work AND they were probably counterproductive overall.

3. Masks don't work. I mean, if we all had industrial grade masks, maybe they work. We didn't. And the evidence heavily favors the positions that cloth masks were useless and silly.

4. Protecting against Covid isn't the only societal function we need to consider. This is where Dr. Fauci pops up in my mind, all he was worried about was the virus. It didn't even cross his mind that shutting down society and the like would have problematic applications across much of society. We talk a lot about crime spikes and OD deaths here, perfect examples of problems wildly exacerbated by the overwrought Covid intervention.

5. Children and young people aren't much impacted by Covid. We knew this before Covid really arrived in the USA, and yet the shrill set tried to shout it down.

6. Covid vaccines are evil. I wish I could come up with a better word to describe what the anti-Covid vax crowd says, but evil seemed semi-on point. Turns out, Covid vaccines have a modest risk for a couple of very rare conditions, but largely prevented old people not previously exposed to Covid from dying by helping with natural defenses. The type of thing most vaccines do! Weird ... the one truly scientific undertaking to fight Covid was the one that wasn't crankery.
 

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This opinion piece ends with this: "No regime that survived 39 days of American and Israeli strikes, watched its supreme leader killed, and still declared enrichment non-negotiable is going to surrender that leverage at a table in Islamabad. The real fork is not escalation versus diplomacy. It is this: accept a nuclear-capable Iran as the permanent outcome of this war or accept the cost of physically removing the threat. Washington should make that decision deliberately — not by default when the ceasefire finally collapses."

Much better Trump than Obama or Biden but this is a difficult decision. Failure is death to the regime class after the horrific things they have done. Negotiating was always a low success outcome. Apparently the low lifes in the regime feel the US will back off and they can continue their reign of terror.

 

ILisBest

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Btw, I personally think the only reason that MAGA folks (not MAHA, who are just health cranks) are still talking about the Covid vaccine is overwhelmingly BECAUSE ALL OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE DEEMED "CONSPIRACIES" WERE LATER VINDICATED.

1. Covid came from a lab. Remember the lefties laughing about how people could believe this. Turns out, nearly every credible intelligence service and scientist now thinks Covid likely came from the Wuhan Virology Institute ... go figure.

2. Lockdowns are bad. Those of us who opposed lockdowns were once deemed uncaring monsters (even murderers to some). Turns out, while there's a defensible argument for lockdowns, they didn't work AND they were probably counterproductive overall.

3. Masks don't work. I mean, if we all had industrial grade masks, maybe they work. We didn't. And the evidence heavily favors the positions that cloth masks were useless and silly.

4. Protecting against Covid isn't the only societal function we need to consider. This is where Dr. Fauci pops up in my mind, all he was worried about was the virus. It didn't even cross his mind that shutting down society and the like would have problematic applications across much of society. We talk a lot about crime spikes and OD deaths here, perfect examples of problems wildly exacerbated by the overwrought Covid intervention.

5. Children and young people aren't much impacted by Covid. We knew this before Covid really arrived in the USA, and yet the shrill set tried to shout it down.

6. Covid vaccines are evil. I wish I could come up with a better word to describe what the anti-Covid vax crowd says, but evil seemed semi-on point. Turns out, Covid vaccines have a modest risk for a couple of very rare conditions, but largely prevented old people not previously exposed to Covid from dying by helping with natural defenses. The type of thing most vaccines do! Weird ... the one truly scientific undertaking to fight Covid was the one that wasn't crankery.
I like this post. Although, I am open to any ongoing evidence of harm coming from the Covid Vax that could outweigh the lives saved for the elderly. I think the evil pointed to in #6 refers mostly to those in power pushing younger, healthy people into something unnecessary?
 
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Another one showing even worse results for the “purebloods.” Great job everyone.

So, one question. Would you rather have the Pfizer jab in your system today or not? I'm 100 percent happy being a pureblood as is everyone I know who made the same choice. No one that I know, vax or not vaxed died from Covid. Congrats to all of those who fell for the greatest scam of modern times.

Real epidemics? The Black Death, the Plague of Justinian, and the plague that hit the Roman Empire under Marcus Aurelius. Population contracted by 33 percent in contrast to the Covid Plague which caused population to increase. Imagine that.
 
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This opinion piece ends with this: "No regime that survived 39 days of American and Israeli strikes, watched its supreme leader killed, and still declared enrichment non-negotiable is going to surrender that leverage at a table in Islamabad. The real fork is not escalation versus diplomacy. It is this: accept a nuclear-capable Iran as the permanent outcome of this war or accept the cost of physically removing the threat. Washington should make that decision deliberately — not by default when the ceasefire finally collapses."

Much better Trump than Obama or Biden but this is a difficult decision. Failure is death to the regime class after the horrific things they have done. Negotiating was always a low success outcome. Apparently the low lifes in the regime feel the US will back off and they can continue their reign of terror.

Hire a bunch of H1B's to remove the enriched Uranium.
 

ILisBest

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This opinion piece ends with this: "No regime that survived 39 days of American and Israeli strikes, watched its supreme leader killed, and still declared enrichment non-negotiable is going to surrender that leverage at a table in Islamabad. The real fork is not escalation versus diplomacy. It is this: accept a nuclear-capable Iran as the permanent outcome of this war or accept the cost of physically removing the threat. Washington should make that decision deliberately — not by default when the ceasefire finally collapses."

Much better Trump than Obama or Biden but this is a difficult decision. Failure is death to the regime class after the horrific things they have done. Negotiating was always a low success outcome. Apparently the low lifes in the regime feel the US will back off and they can continue their reign of terror.

I think Trump is ready to step back from the aggressor role and on to selling a good offramp. Can the Iranian people or the ME leaders provide that ramp for him? I am skeptical. Trump's only four leaf clover may be Iran bullying their neighbors and citizens nonstop. The US doesn't have the will to send door kickers into the country. We will sooner sell our citizens a perceived deal of no nukes and leave a heavily wounded regime to try and pick up their pieces. I have zero confidence in any deal with the ideologues running what is left of the IRGC, but at this point just get out and let somebody else figure it out.
 

dtrain79

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I like this post. Although, I am open to any ongoing evidence of harm coming from the Covid Vax that could outweigh the lives saved for the elderly. I think the evil pointed to in #6 refers mostly to those in power pushing younger, healthy people into something unnecessary?

But that's not the argument being made, and it hasn't for years. I think some made it at the beginning, and I basically agreed. The Covid vax is probably a wash for most healthy people under 35-40. My kids didn't get it because I knew they didn't need it. But I don't think them getting it would have been a big deal either.

Effectively, I think the vaccine debate is psychological. Those on the right who now hate legacy institutions can't simply say "yeah, on balance the vaccine was not bad, I just didn't need for myself." If they were an overweight 70 year old, they should have taken it. A healthy 45 year old, NBD in passing.
 

dtrain79

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So, one question. Would you rather have the Pfizer jab in your system today or not? I'm 100 percent happy being a pureblood as is everyone I know who made the same choice. No one that I know, vax or not vaxed died from Covid. Congrats to all of those who fell for the greatest scam of modern times.

Real epidemics? The Black Death, the Plague of Justinian, and the plague that hit the Roman Empire under Marcus Aurelius. Population contracted by 33 percent in contrast to the Covid Plague which caused population to increase. Imagine that.

I didn't get Pfizer, I did the one shot J&J before it got yanked. It's totally irrelevant to me whether I got it. I don't think I needed it, but I don't think it hurt me an iota, either.

I understand you are incapable of rational thought on this (and some other) topics, but many people died as a result of Covid. Several million in the US and many more abroad. The majority of these people were probably in their last 5-10 years of life (without Covid), but not all. I knew at least 4 people who died from Covid, and one of them was a early-50s Trump-loving conservative in good physical condition. Here's his obituary. My wife's aunt and uncle (sister/brother) also died; both were about 70 years old. Sans Covid, the aunt would almost certainly be alive today, and uncle would have a decent chance of that.

Eric Lee Davis Obituary March 24, 2022 - New Hope Funeral Home

So you can continue to lie to yourself and others about what a warrior you are for not getting a shot (lame AF), but I don't understand the purpose. And that's in no way me thinking you should have taken the needle, I don't care, it was your choice.
 

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I think Trump is ready to step back from the aggressor role and on to selling a good offramp. Can the Iranian people or the ME leaders provide that ramp for him? I am skeptical. Trump's only four leaf clover may be Iran bullying their neighbors and citizens nonstop. The US doesn't have the will to send door kickers into the country. We will sooner sell our citizens a perceived deal of no nukes and leave a heavily wounded regime to try and pick up their pieces. I have zero confidence in any deal with the ideologues running what is left of the IRGC, but at this point just get out and let somebody else figure it out.
I admit I'm not smart enough to opine from afar but once we started this it seems like we had no purpose if we walk away. The regime was always going to fight to the last breath because they are evil and want to protect their asses. They have murdered every person that stands up to them so the bench is pretty barren for new leaders. Again, I'm glad it's Trump and not Obama or Biden in charge but in ten years Iran will be fully back with the help of their friends in Russia and China, and probably with multiple nukes and then where is the negotiating leverage?
 

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I admit I'm not smart enough to opine from afar but once we started this it seems like we had no purpose if we walk away. The regime was always going to fight to the last breath because they are evil and want to protect their asses. They have murdered every person that stands up to them so the bench is pretty barren for new leaders. Again, I'm glad it's Trump and not Obama or Biden in charge but in ten years Iran will be fully back with the help of their friends in Russia and China, and probably with multiple nukes and then where is the negotiating leverage?
I agree finishing the job is the best path for the world. The problem Trump has is the lack of help or even support from the rest of the world. Gas has been high for while now driving inflation in the US up. Trump would like to be competitive in the midterms to keep the looney left from impeaching him. The Iranian conflict is unpopular enough, can you imagine if he put troops on the ground?

It is only a matter of which off ramp he chooses imo.
 
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But that's not the argument being made, and it hasn't for years. I think some made it at the beginning, and I basically agreed. The Covid vax is probably a wash for most healthy people under 35-40. My kids didn't get it because I knew they didn't need it. But I don't think them getting it would have been a big deal either.

Effectively, I think the vaccine debate is psychological. Those on the right who now hate legacy institutions can't simply say "yeah, on balance the vaccine was not bad, I just didn't need for myself." If they were an overweight 70 year old, they should have taken it. A healthy 45 year old, NBD in passing.
Well, there are plenty of arguments to be made on Covid. 🤷‍♂️
 
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. Again, I'm glad it's Trump and not Obama or Biden in charge but in ten years Iran will be fully back with the help of their friends in Russia and China, and probably with multiple nukes and then where is the negotiating leverage?
Obama negotiated a treaty that resolved the nuclear issue. European countries were involved, Russia and China signed off and participated in seeing that no nuclear materials were used. International regulatory agencies were inspecting regularly. It was everything that Trump would give an arm for now. The incompetent Trump blew the treaty up. Then he bombed Iran last year and promised the program was OBLITERATED. Then when Netanyahu talked him into it, struck again to PREVENT A BOMB. Some of you are dumb or cult struck enough to believe Trump's claims. You trust him even though his SOD and Intelligence leaders have proven imbecile incompetents. Yet you feel assured that he is in charge. Pathetic!
 

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The crime drop that began in earnest in 2023 (as stated by one person here) continues unabated. We are getting close to final data from 2025, and crime is at 60 year lows (as we the US didn't record this stuff nationally until the early 60s), it's basically recorded history lows.

Congrats to all the losers and the haters for all the attacks on this position a few years back, it turned out just as wonderfully as one could expect.



Figuring Out Last Year's Crime Counts with Help From Rent

May 18
The FBI did a new thing last week when they published a first look at 2025’s crime counts and trends over on the Crime Data Explorer. This new report is just one page and primarily gives information in the form of a crime clock, but if it provides a ton of information about the state of crime in the United States in 2025.

Four things stand out to me from the FBI’s first look.
First, violent crime fell 9.3 percent while property crime fell 12.4 percent in 2025 which matches the Real-Time Crime Index sample covering all of 2025 (released in mid-February) extremely closely. The RTCI had violent crime down 10.4 percent and property crime down 12.6 percent.
Second, we can use the one (crime) every X minutes/seconds to give us the exact number of each crime type using musical theater and math. To figure out how many murders, robberies, burglaries, etc there were in 2025 we just have to divide the number of minutes in a year by the number of minutes between crimes. Thanks to Rent we know that there are 525,600 minutes in a non-leap year…

There was a murder every 37.3 minutes in 2025 which works out to a murder total between 14,073 and 14,110 (depending on rounding) and a murder rate of 4.1 per 100,000. Back patting time again — this take from March is holding up pretty well!
We can work backwards for each crime type and get the below ranges. The FBI’s data confirms that 2025 had the lowest murder rate ever recorded — surpassing the reported 4.4 per 100,000 in 2014.
It’s not just murder. The FBI’s first look gives a pretty close total for every UCR Part I offense type, with some margin of error to account for rounding.
The first look also gives the precise number of violent and property crimes enabling us to do the math and produce a violent crime rate of 327.6 per 100,000 (even lower if you eventually use the revised definition of rape for a pure apples-to-apples comparison) and a property crime rate of 1,534.8 per 100,000. Those figures work out to the lowest violent crime rate in the United States since 1968 and the lowest property crime rate ever recorded.
The third thing that stands out is that the 2024 violent crime count has clearly been revised upwards by a decent amount. The FBI tells us violent crime fell 9.3 percent, but the reported number of violent crimes is only 8.3 percent below the initially reported 2024 figure.
There will likely be about 13,000 more violent crime in the 2024 revised number when it is released with the 2025 figures later this year.
The 2024 murder count will almost certainly be revised upwards by a fair amount too as part of that. There were 16,935 murders in 2024 in the FBI’s initial report, which would mean a 16.8 percent drop from 2024 to 2025. All evidence is that the decline will be bigger than that, so expect an upwards revision in the neighborhood of 700 or so more murders added to the 2024 estimate.
Before we get to the last point, I would like to note that the crime clock isn’t new to FBI crime reporting. Here’s one from 1961 as proof of just how long they’ve been doing them:
Fourth and finally, agency participation was a very normal 96 percent. The “of course reported crime is falling, fewer agencies are reporting” folks haven’t been as loud in the last year or so, but the myth still persists from time to time. Here’s another strong datapoint showing that crime is falling because crime is falling, not because it isn’t being reported.
This first look has some important information about how many crimes there were in 2025, but it doesn’t quite tell us exactly how many there were in 2025 and what the revised counts for 2024 will be. And it creates the somewhat humorous position of having a better idea how how many murders the FBI estimates there were in 2025 than they estimate were in 2024.
Still, we know all of this in May now and could accurately predict basically all of it as it was happening in 2025.
I’ve been doing this type of work for more than a decade now, and it’s incredible to see how the battle over describing trends has basically been won. If only we could better and quicker explain the why...
As I stated correctly we didn't have a measurable reduction in crime until we STOPPED ESTIMATING 40 % of all police departments and replaced the leadership in the FBI, which was guessing on crime stats for the 100 % of Police in the entire Nation.

Combine no further estimates and the reduction of approximately 3,000,000 million criminals from the USA and you have what the numbers now state.

The more DEI/WOKE prosecutors and Judges are removed the subsequent reduction in crime rates will occur.
 

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From Grok-


grok said:
Yes, people who received COVID-19 vaccines can still get infected and pass the virus to others.

This is well-established through multiple studies and public health data. COVID-19 vaccines (especially the original formulations) were highly effective at preventing severe illness, hospitalization, and death, but they were never 100% effective at blocking infection or transmission. Breakthrough infections—where a vaccinated person still contracts SARS-CoV-2—allow for potential spread.

Key Evidence on Transmission

• Similar viral loads in breakthrough cases: Studies during the Delta variant surge (e.g., from California and CDC data) found no significant difference in initial viral loads (measured by Ct values) between vaccinated and unvaccinated infected people. Low Ct values indicate high virus levels capable of transmission, including in asymptomatic vaccinated individuals.

• Transmission occurs, but is often reduced: Vaccinated people who get infected typically shed virus for a shorter time (e.g., ~5.5 days vs. ~7.5 days in unvaccinated) and have lower rates of onward transmission in household or close-contact studies. Reductions in transmission from vaccinated index cases ranged from modest to substantial (e.g., 20–70% lower in various cohorts), depending on variant, time since vaccination, and booster status.

• Variant effects: Early variants showed stronger vaccine effects against transmission. Delta and especially Omicron reduced this benefit, with breakthrough cases showing higher transmissibility. Boosters helped restore some protection against infection and spread.

• Real-world confirmation: Agencies like the CDC, NHS, and others explicitly state that vaccinated people can catch and spread COVID-19, including asymptomatically. This led to updated guidance on masking and testing even for vaccinated individuals during high-transmission periods.

What a tremendous vaccine! Not only could you still get Covid, but a vaxxed individual could still pass covid along to others. A strong virus naturally gets weaker as it mutates. Blue states still spread fear and kept people distanced.

The policies were BS. Fauci made up the social distancing nonsense. Blue state politicians had rules for thee, but not for me. Plenty of things to stay pissed about and not let it happen again. People forgot lessons from 9/11 and now look at NYC.
 

BigWill

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Another one showing even worse results for the “purebloods.” Great job everyone.

Check Sweden.
 

BigWill

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Btw, I personally think the only reason that MAGA folks (not MAHA, who are just health cranks) are still talking about the Covid vaccine is overwhelmingly BECAUSE ALL OF THE OTHER ITEMS THAT WERE DEEMED "CONSPIRACIES" WERE LATER VINDICATED.

1. Covid came from a lab. Remember the lefties laughing about how people could believe this. Turns out, nearly every credible intelligence service and scientist now thinks Covid likely came from the Wuhan Virology Institute ... go figure.

2. Lockdowns are bad. Those of us who opposed lockdowns were once deemed uncaring monsters (even murderers to some). Turns out, while there's a defensible argument for lockdowns, they didn't work AND they were probably counterproductive overall.

3. Masks don't work. I mean, if we all had industrial grade masks, maybe they work. We didn't. And the evidence heavily favors the positions that cloth masks were useless and silly.

4. Protecting against Covid isn't the only societal function we need to consider. This is where Dr. Fauci pops up in my mind, all he was worried about was the virus. It didn't even cross his mind that shutting down society and the like would have problematic applications across much of society. We talk a lot about crime spikes and OD deaths here, perfect examples of problems wildly exacerbated by the overwrought Covid intervention.

5. Children and young people aren't much impacted by Covid. We knew this before Covid really arrived in the USA, and yet the shrill set tried to shout it down.

6. Covid vaccines are evil. I wish I could come up with a better word to describe what the anti-Covid vax crowd says, but evil seemed semi-on point. Turns out, Covid vaccines have a modest risk for a couple of very rare conditions, but largely prevented old people not previously exposed to Covid from dying by helping with natural defenses. The type of thing most vaccines do! Weird ... the one truly scientific undertaking to fight Covid was the one that wasn't crankery.
Many years ago I railed about # 1 - 5, being BS.

I took 2 shots because of; age, BP, poor fitness at the time.
 

BigWill

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So, one question. Would you rather have the Pfizer jab in your system today or not? I'm 100 percent happy being a pureblood as is everyone I know who made the same choice. No one that I know, vax or not vaxed died from Covid. Congrats to all of those who fell for the greatest scam of modern times.

Real epidemics? The Black Death, the Plague of Justinian, and the plague that hit the Roman Empire under Marcus Aurelius. Population contracted by 33 percent in contrast to the Covid Plague which caused population to increase. Imagine that.
"Spanish Flu", killed more people worldwide than World War 1.
 

BigWill

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Obama negotiated a treaty that resolved the nuclear issue. European countries were involved, Russia and China signed off and participated in seeing that no nuclear materials were used. International regulatory agencies were inspecting regularly. It was everything that Trump would give an arm for now. The incompetent Trump blew the treaty up. Then he bombed Iran last year and promised the program was OBLITERATED. Then when Netanyahu talked him into it, struck again to PREVENT A BOMB. Some of you are dumb or cult struck enough to believe Trump's claims. You trust him even though his SOD and Intelligence leaders have proven imbecile incompetents. Yet you feel assured that he is in charge. Pathetic!
Your Anti-Jewish views pokes thru.
 

BigWill

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Here is what gives President Trump the cajónes to be strong in International Politics !

Proven in Ukraine, Venezuela, Iran and elsewhere.

Proven superiority of American Weapons systems and the training/intelligence of American Service members.

The above Countries have either used American equipment ( Ukraine ) or paid 100's of millions of currency for equipment that is inferior than what America can utilize on todays battlefields.

BOTH Russian AND Chi-na have proven to be either obsolete or tech inferior.