Final Four if the Iowa women could replicate that fea,routinely or even come close.
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Nah, they're just working overtime to come up with narratives that she's overrated.
I was the one who was mischaracterized
KM needs to start shooting better or stuffing the stat book better to justify her super max contract. Yes she’s averaging 24 ppg, but she has a total of 3 rebounds, 6 assists, and 3 steals in four games played so far. She’s chewing up too much of the salary cap to be shooting 10-31 from three and providing basically no other stats while also being a poor defensive player.
I’m guessing this season is her last go around in Indiana unless she’s willing to take a pay cut.
I’m guessing this season is her last go around in Indiana unless she’s willing to take a pay cut.
There isn't any arguing that CC was overrated.
CC was widely being called the GOAT, as a junior in college. I don't recall anybody else being referred to as the GOAT, during that time.
Clearly, she can't be the GOAT, when she isn't even the best in the world today.
So clearly, CC was overrated. I don't see how that's even debatable
Kate with 11 for L.A. today.
Went back and looked at the play by play in the 4th. Clark was subbed out at the 7:53 mark. Never went back in. She was cooking and on her way to a triple double. Subbed with 8 minutes left. Should have left her in longer. She is the starting PG after all. She's fully healthy to play for goodness sake.
I'm not the one who overrated her
My take—Clark is not the GOAT but she is by far the most impactful player ever to the increased popularity of the women’s game. We can all argue the GOAT, I don’t believe anyone with credibility can argue the second point.
She has absolutely energized the league's popularity, even with the casual fan. Her contributions to the game, her fans, and to the franchise, stand out among all of the others.
Widely? I don’t recall anyone except her most overzealous fans calling her the GOAT. When she’s healthy I think she’s certainly one of the top ten players in the league and arguably perhaps top five.
Do you recall anyone else being referred to as the GOAT for those couple of years?
The term was thrown around for CC a lot, whether you heard it, or not. The WNBA players heard it. That's for sure.
Did those overzealous fans not become such by way of overrating? Even if it were just CC's most overzealous fans, the point that CC was overrated would remain, unless you've also heard people underrating her. And next to zero fans have done that
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My recollection was that GOAT references were to her as a college player. Because she is. For the W, her book is not yet written, but will probably be in the convo when it’s all said and done.
There is no "C" in GOAT. And I do not recall one person bothering to make that distinction. They simply said, "GOAT".
Again, the WNBA players heard the same thing.
Has there every been anyone referred to as the "college GOAT"
in any sport? Of course not. Because there is no "C" in GOAT.And for what it's worth, the college GOAT is plenty debatable
She is NOT fully healthy, and probably won't be all season.
Why are you trying to be so annoying?There is no "C" in GOAT. And I do not recall one person bothering to make that distinction. They simply said, "GOAT".
Again, the WNBA players heard the same thing.
Has there every been anyone referred to as the "college GOAT"
And for what it's worth, the college GOAT is plenty debatable
The GOAT reference was to her college career because the debate was whether she could be the GOAT without winning an NCAA championship. Eyesofhawk is full of shite.
That distinction most definitely gets made, and not just as it pertains to women’s basketball. Just as one example, Archie Griffin is the only two-time Heisman Trophy winner and is generally considered one of the best players in college football history. But his professional career was pretty mediocre.There is no "C" in GOAT. And I do not recall one person bothering to make that distinction. They simply said, "GOAT".
Again, the WNBA players heard the same thing.
Has there every been anyone referred to as the "college GOAT"
And for what it's worth, the college GOAT is plenty debatable
"One of the best" is not a GOAT conversation either
She's the best player in the league being coached by a moron with a flawed roster
Yes, ESPN facilitated the particular debate you are referring to.
And long before that, CC had been being referred to as the GOAT (no distinction). You must not get out much, because it was everywhere. And commonly used on these message boards.
I know, because I was calling these people out at that time.
These days, it's possible that someone might might refer to you as the GOAT of Monday morning message boarders. You don’t think the term's been thrown around for CC?
And AGAIN, I ask what you think the WNBA players heard? They heard a junior in college being referred to as the greatest women's basketball player of all-time. That's the simple truth
She was the GOAT for women's college basketball. Period.
Just look at the records whe broke. And then tell me how she is not the GOAT.
Just look at the records whe broke. And then tell me how she is not the GOAT.
Well for one, the conversation fundamentally has its limitations, as basketball is a team sport.
Great players that have four titles, certainly have an argument vs zero
See, CC is still being overrated.
I haven't made this stuff up, people. And would have no reason to
A guy taking a shot at me, as a carry over from another thread
You weren't calling people out back then because you weren't f***ing posting on the women's boards back then, at least not on this account. I was actually on those boards because I actually watched the games.Yes, ESPN facilitated the particular debate you are referring to.
And long before that, CC had been being referred to as the GOAT (no distinction). You must not get out much, because it was everywhere. And commonly used on these message boards.
I know, because I was calling these people out at that time.
These days, it's possible that someone might might refer to you as the GOAT of Monday morning message boarders. You don’t think the term's been thrown around for CC?
And AGAIN, I ask what you think the WNBA players heard? They heard a junior in college being referred to as the greatest women's basketball player of all-time. That's the simple truth
Thank you, though, again, for solidifying that your eyesofhawk account is nothing more than an antagonistic fan troll account.
I am not understanding your insult. Can you explain it to me?
Then, it would be reasonable for you to consider the possibility that you didn't see read those threads.
Yes, posting as eyesofhawk, my only message board account. On the previous site. Don't post often about women's basketball, but had the discussion on the women's forum, in women's threads before the women's forum, and in a men's thread, as I recall.
I've followed the Hawkeye women my whole life, the WNBA since its inception, and a decent amount of women's college ball before that.
I'm not sure what your problem is with it anyway. I was only saying what was obvious to anyone who knew a darn thing. CC was not the greatest women's basketball player of all-time.
My main point has always been how much I hate the goat crowing craze. I also warned how it would end up with CC having to incur unessecary challenges in her pro career.
Might want to calm down a little, bro. You're literally arguing with me about what my own actions were
Unsolicited, in post #3703, Monkey conjured up what amounts to a mischaracterization of thoughts I've expressed in the current women's thread on the men's forum.
The resulting string of messages between Monkey and I can be seen in this thread. And the nature of the backhistory can be found in the "Fire Stephanie White" thread, if it's of that much importance to you. Which I'm not sure why it would be