Rutgers doesn’t win enough because most of you don’t donate enough

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I know we gave up close to 40 sacks, and we are having trouble recruiting good linemen.
I know the coach was fired and that you don’t know wtf you’re talking about. There’s nothing else for me to know.
More drivel with no facts. Some of the sack issues were already explained and it had nothing to do with Flats but you do you and continue with the being the self assumed smartest person in the room bit.
 

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If he was that smart he’d be able to get a girlfriend instead of asking for advice on a football message board of all places. You can only imagine how disappointed his parents are. Worst part is there was never a market for a guy like him. Now he’s aging out of that soft market. Kinda sad actually.
 

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If he was that smart he’d be able to get a girlfriend instead of asking for advice on a football message board of all places. You can only imagine how disappointed his parents are. Worst part is there was never a market for a guy like him. Now he’s aging out of that soft market. Kinda sad actually.
Those women are like the RU basketball team. They don't hit threes.
 
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I don't know.
This guy seemed to think we were one of the most talented teams in the country just 2 years ago.
Sure maybe we didn't have the depth after injuries that year.
Now our talent has plummeted?
2025 and upcoming 2026 have minimal talent?

"We’re not going to be destroying teams 42-10, because we’ll be destroying teams 52-10. We have better talent than Notre Dame. Better talent than Alabama. Better talent than USC."

Is he trolling or serious?
 
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More drivel with no facts. Some of the sack issues were already explained and it had nothing to do with Flats but you do you and continue with the being the self assumed smartest person in the room bit.

Your posts are 8 jokes in one. Here is our tackle being cleanly beaten. 38 sacks is downright awful, no matter how much you try to gaslight us.

 
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Like others have said, chin and Needham got hurt but even still managed to produce a 1500 yard rusher and one of the top passing offenses in the big ten..and there is a completely new defensive line this year. Plenty of prospects to be COACHED up on the oline and dline as well like wydeek collier, braxton Kyle, rj Johnson....no excuses if schiano can't break through in the next two years, give someone else a shot..
In regards to this coming season, the minimum should be 7 wins, 8 would be a good start.. 9 and you won't have to beg for money on the message board anymore..
Also I'm counting these games as losses but Indiana has plenty of questions marks when it comes to their roster and new comers. Same as Penn State, USC and Michigan..every team has turned over rosters, coaches etc.

At least there is some talent in the redshirt class, but our portal results were below expectations. Wisconsin has a more impressive portal class despite having a disappointing season. They spent a good amount of money.
 

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Is he trolling or serious?
It's one big troll. Last season he had Rutgers winning the NC, which he's had every year since the internet was invented. Now, instead of the overly optimistic moron, he's changed his persona to the bitter moron. DarkAl has emerged, and he's not playing lol! Just don't expect a real donation from him no matter which role he's playing.
 
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At least there is some talent in the redshirt class, but our portal results were below expectations. Wisconsin has a more impressive portal class despite having a disappointing season. They spent a good amount of money.
I mean, for what they needed...yes they would have brought in some ends and dts from other power 4 conferences if they had more money..but they brought some guys and some guys are back from injury...the jury is out, let's see what they can do .
 
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I mean, for what they needed...yes they would have brought in some ends and dts from other power 4 conferences if they had more money..but they brought some guys and some guys are back from injury...the jury is out, let's see what they can do .

There’s just not enough talent to have an effective defense, though we’ll do our best. At least I don’t see the talent that will fix the issues observed last year. Defensive End is my biggest concern.
 

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There’s just not enough talent to have an effective defense, though we’ll do our best. At least I don’t see the talent that will fix the issues observed last year. Defensive End is my biggest concern.
The type of defensive lineman you speak of go to the ohio states and Miamis of the world. You seem to think Rutgers can get Michigan, Ohio State, Miami level financial support without ever proving itself as being capable of winning. Has that happened in the past? You say Indiana got money before they won but that first year of success was with lower tier players from the transfer portal. It's the way things work, you have to give people a reason to believe, a reason to have hope and then investments will come. Going back to the buzz around the program after defeating Louisville, pretty sure that win and the resulting media coverage is what got Rutgers into the big ten. Even still people laugh if you even say "I'm a Rutgers football fan" how do you think donating XYZ amount of dollars to Rutgers football sounds to rational casual sports observers? All of the current investments into Rutgers football is because of that one win 20 years ago..you won't get blue chip level investment until the program proves it knows how to win..Either with this staff or a new staff..
 

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DeadbeatAl went from us winning the NC two years ago to being "mediocre".

DarkAl sucks as bad as OverlyOptimisticAl. But DeadbeatAl is the absolute worst. Even with all of that, I'mAStudAl is the most delusional.
 
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The type of defensive lineman you speak of go to the ohio states and Miamis of the world. You seem to think Rutgers can get Michigan, Ohio State, Miami level financial support without ever proving itself as being capable of winning. Has that happened in the past? You say Indiana got money before they won but that first year of success was with lower tier players from the transfer portal. It's the way things work, you have to give people a reason to believe, a reason to have hope and then investments will come. Going back to the buzz around the program after defeating Louisville, pretty sure that win and the resulting media coverage is what got Rutgers into the big ten. Even still people laugh if you even say "I'm a Rutgers football fan" how do you think donating XYZ amount of dollars to Rutgers football sounds to rational casual sports observers? All of the current investments into Rutgers football is because of that one win 20 years ago..you won't get blue chip level investment until the program proves it knows how to win..Either with this staff or a new staff..

Why was Indiana able to get blue chip level investment without winning? They’ve spent $86M on facilities, then a significant amount on NIL. They recruited lower level kids in ‘24 who played at a high level. They outbid us for CJ West. They recruited Curtis Rourke from Ohio. We need to be able to do similarly. Otherwise, it’s just not going to happen for us.
 

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Indiana had very little NIL comparatively for the 24 team. They won, then it came.

That's how this has to happen at Rutgers. Schiano has a few friends/boosters with money who prop him enough to have gotten the job, but he doesn't inspire enough to the people who can make the real difference. Why? 91-108. And he gets there by keeping the program under tight wraps while playing the most boring style imaginable. All while never beating anyone even slighly above his weight class.

It is what it is. This isn't rocket science.
 
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Why was Indiana able to get blue chip level investment without winning? They’ve spent $86M on facilities, then a significant amount on NIL. They recruited lower level kids in ‘24 who played at a high level. They outbid us for CJ West. They recruited Curtis Rourke from Ohio. We need to be able to do similarly. Otherwise, it’s just not going to happen for us.
Rutgers hasn't exactly been penny pinching when it comes to football...even as much as you complain, recruits are amazed by Rutgers football facilities..I'm sure it's not comparable to LSU or a school like that but Rutgers has spent some cash on the program..it's time
 
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Why was Indiana able to get blue chip level investment without winning? They’ve spent $86M on facilities, then a significant amount on NIL. They recruited lower level kids in ‘24 who played at a high level. They outbid us for CJ West. They recruited Curtis Rourke from Ohio. We need to be able to do similarly. Otherwise, it’s just not going to happen for us.
Those lower level kids played at a high level because of high level coaching. Indiana's DC was a Broyles Award winner. We had Robb Smith.
 
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Rutgers hasn't exactly been penny pinching when it comes to football...even as much as you complain, recruits are amazed by Rutgers football facilities..I'm sure it's not comparable to LSU or a school like that but Rutgers has spent some cash on the program..it's time
Deadbeat Al seems to forget that Rutgers has double the Football Staff vs. other B1G Football programs. The knucklehead refuses to face reality: we don’t have a HC who can win.
 

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We need to give Greg a bigger budget. How can he compete only having the 7th highest budget.


now break it down per win.
 

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Operating budget has been on par the with the rest of the league the last 3-4 years, NIL budget has not.
And therein lies the problem. Some put the priorities in attaining talent. Some put their priorities into attaining staff. I have said many times. It’s an allocation of resources issue not a resources issue.
 
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And therein lies the problem. Some put the priorities in attaining talent. Some put their priorities into attaining staff. I have said many times. It’s an allocation of resources issue not a resources issue.
That's not correct because the commitment to increase staff was made as a condition of Greg returning, per-NIL. Then Hobbs did nothing once NIL came into play and fan response to the collective asks was tepid at best which set all the programs back especially football and basketball. Zinn is trying to get NIL up towards the middle of the conference but it's a bit of a climb to get there.
 

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That's not correct because the commitment to increase staff was made as a condition of Greg returning, per-NIL. Then Hobbs did nothing once NIL came into play and fan response to the collective asks was tepid at best which set all the programs back especially football and basketball. Zinn is trying to get NIL up towards the middle of the conference but it's a bit of a climb to get there.
You’re partially correct. Greg asked for staff and infrastructure when he negotiated his return. That was his priority. But Greg grew the staff (nearly doubled head count) when Hobbs was on the way out. Had this discussion with someone in the department. Went from a staff of 40-50 to over 100 in Hobbs last year and the rudderless year with no one in charge.
 

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Keli will not allow this nonsense to continue. I expect the NIL budget to increase and Schiano's army to decrease. Waste of money. Assistant Safety Coach lol
 
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Deadbeat Al seems to forget that Rutgers has double the Football Staff vs. other B1G Football programs. The knucklehead refuses to face reality: we don’t have a HC who can win.
You really are a fool.

the campus is crappy.
the bus system is crappy.
The facilities are crappy.
The history is crappy.
The NIL budget is insufficient.

but yeah. Come to Rutgers. This is why our recruiting is in the toilet. Unable to recruit blue chip quarterbacks and linemen. This is problematic.

I just don’t know how anyone expects us to recruit effectively, given our constraints.
 
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We need to give Greg a bigger budget. How can he compete only having the 7th highest budget.


now break it down per win.

You’re missing capital expenses, which are key to recruiting. We haven’t spent anything there, in a while. Indiana spent $86M.

We also haven’t spent as much on NIL. This puts us at a huge disadvantage in recruiting.
 
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Keli will not allow this nonsense to continue. I expect the NIL budget to increase and Schiano's army to decrease. Waste of money. Assistant Safety Coach lol
Because the NIL budget is not competitive, more effort is needed to recruit. We did not land 1 kid out of the Jersey Top 25 this year. So we have to recruit 2 and 3 stars from NC, GA, and FL.
 

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You really are a fool.

the campus is crappy.
the bus system is crappy.
The facilities are crappy.
The history is crappy.
The NIL budget is insufficient.

but yeah. Come to Rutgers. This is why our recruiting is in the toilet. Unable to recruit blue chip quarterbacks and linemen. This is problematic.

I just don’t know how anyone expects us to recruit effectively, given our constraints.
Ok, why would anyone invest in that? Rutgers has 0 tradition in regards to football, no history of donors. Lol Are people donating for the love of the game? Usually people with the type of money needed to help move the needle aren't emotional like that. You have to get people excited and display the possibilities of a college football winner in nyc/nj.
 
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You really are a fool.

the campus is crappy.
the bus system is crappy.
The facilities are crappy.
The history is crappy.
The NIL budget is insufficient.

but yeah. Come to Rutgers. This is why our recruiting is in the toilet. Unable to recruit blue chip quarterbacks and linemen. This is problematic.

I just don’t know how anyone expects us to recruit effectively, given our constraints.
You're making a case to stop participating in Division 1 athletics. If the school sucks so much, as you've laid out in your own words, and it's impacting recruiting, then Rutgers doesn't belong at the highest level of college sports.
 
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Finding investors is a lot like recruiting. In fact, blue chip recruits are attracted to the same thing big money is attracted to. Spoils come after victory lol
Because the NIL budget is not competitive, more effort is needed to recruit. We did not land 1 kid out of the Jersey Top 25 this year. So we have to recruit 2 and 3 stars from NC, GA, and FL.
 

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The correct process is to support the coach we have, because he has a strong history at Rutgers of parlaying the limited support into Wins. He is perfect for our situation. We’ve gone to 3 Bowls in 6 seasons, and barely missed a bowl last year, despite our financial challenges.

Thanks to better awareness, we have significantly increased NIL support year over year, so progress is being made. More people are giving than ever before. But more must be done to be competitive with peers.

As far as I’m concerned, this is the most important issue confronting Rutgers football, so it needs to be front and Center.

Because everything that Schiano and staff does is mitigated due to lack of support, despite significantly increased operational expenses.

Tell me how we materially improve recruiting without additional support. Open to suggestions.
Did any of those schools or All Americans you spoke too think highly of the bowls we went too?
If those schools had the win/loss record or the crap bowl appearances that Greggy has would they have kept the coach?
Agreed Rutgers has not been serious about winning. If they were Greggy would be gone and the real winning could begin.

Winning brings in NIL
Winning gets your field house
Winning brings pride to the banks
 

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There’s just not enough talent to have an effective defense, though we’ll do our best. At least I don’t see the talent that will fix the issues observed last year. Defensive End is my biggest concern.
Greggy is lost and took 2 months to hire a DC and staff. That is why you are seeing a lack of talent. If it goes bad again Greggy will scapegoat the staff and the apologists will be on here supporting his terrible rhetoric
 

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Why was Indiana able to get blue chip level investment without winning? They’ve spent $86M on facilities, then a significant amount on NIL. They recruited lower level kids in ‘24 who played at a high level. They outbid us for CJ West. They recruited Curtis Rourke from Ohio. We need to be able to do similarly. Otherwise, it’s just not going to happen for us.
Coaching and system is why!
 

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You really are a fool.

the campus is crappy.
the bus system is crappy.
The facilities are crappy.
The history is crappy.
The NIL budget is insufficient.

but yeah. Come to Rutgers. This is why our recruiting is in the toilet. Unable to recruit blue chip quarterbacks and linemen. This is problematic.

I just don’t know how anyone expects us to recruit effectively, given our constraints.

And yet - despite all that Rutgers had more starting talent than Ohio State, ND and Alabama just 2 years ago.

Right?
 

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You’re missing capital expenses, which are key to recruiting. We haven’t spent anything there, in a while. Indiana spent $86M.

We also haven’t spent as much on NIL. This puts us at a huge disadvantage in recruiting.
Indiana spent that money 2 coaches ago. Didn’t help any of them until a coach with a plan showed up. It’s an allocation problem not a spending problem Al. We spend with the top programs.