Rutgers doesn’t win enough because most of you don’t donate enough

NickRU714

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To me, you seem to be saying that despite spending $86m on infrastructure and raising $10m on NIL, in 2024 everyone (including you) still thought Indiana was behind Rutgers.

How can that be?
 

Caliknight

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MiamiAl is the biggest problem Rutgers football has. Can't believe he hasn't been donating after all of this bloviating. Truly shocking.
 
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But they spent $86m on infrastructure and $10m on NIL.

Surely all that spending trumps everything else?
Wouldn't it have been evident prior to 2024 they had passed us?
Since all the money was already raised and spent to build the 2024 roster?

They lacked talent prior to ‘24. The NIL brought in the significant talent that was needed to win. In particular, they outbid Rutgers for CJ West, who became a key cog of their defensive line. They also brought in QB Curtis Rourke, who had a terrific year for them.
 
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They passed us by because they hired a better coach. 86m in facilities improvements didn't pull them ahead of RU. Hiring Cignetti did.

It was talent acquisition that pulled Indiana ahead of RU. They spent millions to buy better players via NIL. That’s the part you’ve conveniently skipped. And the $86M factored into their value proposition and ultimately players decisions. Either way, boosters are going to have to pony up, if we want to build a team that’s competitive with Indiana.

We have a good coach. We don’t have infrastructure and we don’t have enough NIL. This is why our recruiting isn’t where it needs to be.
 
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To me, you seem to be saying that despite spending $86m on infrastructure and raising $10m on NIL, in 2024 everyone (including you) still thought Indiana was behind Rutgers.

How can that be?

You keep forgetting that in ‘24 we had a ton of injuries. Losing Toure, Powell, and Bailey killed our defense. Aaron Lewis also missed games and played hurt. Toure was Miamis leading tackler, and helped lead them to the National Championship Game. We did not have an adequate replacement onhand, and the defense struggled. Toure was our best defensive player in ‘23.
 
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It was talent acquisition that pulled Indiana ahead of RU. They spent millions to buy better players via NIL. That’s the part you’ve conveniently skipped. And the $86M factored into their value proposition and ultimately players decisions. Either way, boosters are going to have to pony up, if we want to build a team that’s competitive with Indiana.
Most of the better players on the 2024 team were transfers from JMU who followed Cignetti to Indiana because they know he's a winner. That was the value proposition. He didn't break the bank for those players. Cuban started contributing after they started winning. And the bluebloods that Indiana beat spent more money on their rosters than they did. RU has had several transfers from the same talent pool who haven't been nearly as productive as the players who went to Indiana. #Coaching Matters. Schiano knows this. That's why we have a lots and lots of new coaches.
 

NickRU714

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They lacked talent prior to ‘24. The NIL brought in the significant talent that was needed to win. In particular, they outbid Rutgers for CJ West, who became a key cog of their defensive line. They also brought in QB Curtis Rourke, who had a terrific year for them.

But they weren't ahead of Rutgers despite all that "talent" they brought in - according to EVERYONE (including you).

After all that talent, YOU (and everyone else) said "Indiana hasn't passed us".
 

NickRU714

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You keep forgetting that in ‘24 we had a ton of injuries. Losing Toure, Powell, and Bailey killed our defense. Aaron Lewis also missed games and played hurt. Toure was Miamis leading tackler, and helped lead them to the National Championship Game. We did not have an adequate replacement onhand, and the defense struggled. Toure was our best defensive player in ‘23.

So without all those injuries, we would have been ahead of Indiana in 2024?
Depsite the $86m infrastructure and all the talent they acquired.

So Rutgers had more talent than Indiana to start the year?
 

Caliknight

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It was talent acquisition that pulled Indiana ahead of RU. They spent millions to buy better players via NIL. That’s the part you’ve conveniently skipped. And the $86M factored into their value proposition and ultimately players decisions. Either way, boosters are going to have to pony up, if we want to build a team that’s competitive with Indiana.

We have a good coach. We don’t have infrastructure and we don’t have enough NIL. This is why our recruiting isn’t where it needs to be.
Telling the same lie doesn’t make it true. Cogs first team had JMU transfers and little NIL. That came the next year when Cuban got involved.

I see why MiamiAl knows so little. He doesn’t donate and get la zero information from the people that do.
 

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You keep forgetting that in ‘24 we had a ton of injuries. Losing Toure, Powell, and Bailey killed our defense. Aaron Lewis also missed games and played hurt. Toure was Miamis leading tackler, and helped lead them to the National Championship Game. We did not have an adequate replacement onhand, and the defense struggled. Toure was our best defensive player in ‘23.
Injuries don't explain the losses to Illinois and UCLA. Poor coaching does, though.
 
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Most of the better players on the 2024 team were transfers from JMU who followed Cignetti to Indiana because they know he's a winner. That was the value proposition. He didn't break the bank for those players. Cuban started contributing after they started winning. And the bluebloods that Indiana beat spent more money on their rosters than they did. RU has had several transfers from the same talent pool who haven't been nearly as productive as the players who went to Indiana. #Coaching Matters. Schiano knows this. That's why we have a lots and lots of new coaches.

You keep implying that Indiana did not spend a lot of money to be successful, when that is not the case. They spent $86M on facilities which told Cignetti they were serious. Cignetti also negotiated a significant NIL and assistant coaches pool. So what if they weren’t spending as much as bluebloods. They were spending a lot more than Rutgers. You don’t need to be a top NIL spender, but you need to spend enough. We are not spending enough, overall.

This year is the first year Rutgers is paying all its assistants properly. But our investments in NIL and facilities is severely lacking, especially when compared to our Big Ten peers.
 
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So you aren’t donating anything as you confirmed. All that bluster to only out yourself as NPC. How embarrassing

Comprehension isn’t your strength. You have to donate significantly to maintain Football parking and season tickets. But you wouldn’t know that since you don’t have either.
 
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Telling the same lie doesn’t make it true. Cogs first team had JMU transfers and little NIL. That came the next year when Cuban got involved.

I see why MiamiAl knows so little. He doesn’t donate and get la zero information from the people that do.

That’s not true because Cignetti negotiated an NIL pool and salary pool for assistants. They also had a lot of transfers that were not from JMU, like quarterback Curtis Rourke, and defensive lineman CJ West, whom they outbid Rutgers for. They had enough NIL to be successful and a lot more than Rutgers.
 
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Injuries don't explain the losses to Illinois and UCLA. Poor coaching does, though.

Oh yes they do. Toures loss alone explains losses to Indiana and UCLA. Those games would not have been close, imo. Toure was our defensive MVP the year before and had a monster game against Miami. A UCLAs back ran for a TD because the LB blew the assignment.
 

Caliknight

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Comprehension isn’t your strength. You have to donate significantly to maintain Football parking and season tickets. But you wouldn’t know that since you don’t have either.
If you think getting a season ticket and a parking pass is a "significant" donation, then you are an even smaller fry than I thought. All you do is rail on people for not donating, yet you aren't donating anything. Embarassing.

Me? I have donated well into 6 figures. I don't need a parking pass or a season ticket. I can text the AD and let them know I am coming and go to any game I want whenever I want. That's how much much I've donated.

You should work harder and earn more so you can actually donate instead of being absolute nobody. Trying to pass off a season ticket and a parking pass as a significant donation lol. I've seen it all here now. At least we know why you kept avoiding the question of how much you've donated. The answer is 0. You haven't donated anything.
 
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Caliknight

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That’s not true because Cignetti negotiated an NIL pool and salary pool for assistants. They also had a lot of transfers that were not from JMU, like quarterback Curtis Rourke, and defensive lineman CJ West, whom they outbid Rutgers for. They had enough NIL to be successful and a lot more than Rutgers.
Vast majority of transfers were from JMU with little or no NIL. THey just wanted to win with a great coach. Schiano negotiated a huge pool for assistants and has an army of them. And they still can't win.
 

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If you think getting a season ticket and a parking pass is a "significant" donation, then you are an even smaller fry than I thought. All you do is rail on people for not donating, yet you aren't donating anything. Embarassing.

Me? I have donated well into 6 figures. I don't need a parking pass or a season ticket. I can text the AD and let them know I am coming and go to any game I want whenever I want. That's how much much I've donated.

You should work harder and earn more so you can actually donate instead of being absolute nobody. Trying to pass off a season ticket and a parking pass as a significant donation lol. I've seen it all here now. At least we know why you kept avoiding the question of how much you've donated. The answer is 0. You haven't donated anything.
Agreed. Season tickets and priority parking are costs of admission. Not the flex intended.
 

Caliknight

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Agreed. Season tickets and priority parking are costs of admission. Not the flex intended.
It’s truly crazy how he thought he was donating all of this time simply by buying tickets to a game. More crazy is his stupidity to so arrogantly announce it, as if he’s making a difference.

Guy should really just stfu. I get he doesn’t have the embarrassment gene but sheesh. I’m embarrassed for him.
 

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The only reason we were picked ahead of them in 2024, is because we beat them badly in 2023. But by the end of 2024, it was pretty evident they had passed us by.
Nope. Their coach passed our coach.
Fake news. Schiano has the biggest staff in the league. Or one of.
Bloated, non-productive staff is a waste of funds. If Rutgers football were its own company, they'd be bankrupt by now.
They lacked talent prior to ‘24. The NIL brought in the significant talent that was needed to win. In particular, they outbid Rutgers for CJ West, who became a key cog of their defensive line. They also brought in QB Curtis Rourke, who had a terrific year for them.
The mere reference that college students are obtained via an auction makes collegiate athletics even more of a joke.

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Oh yes they do. Toures loss alone explains losses to Indiana and UCLA. Those games would not have been close, imo. Toure was our defensive MVP the year before and had a monster game against Miami. A UCLAs back ran for a TD because the LB blew the assignment.
The losses to UCLA and Illinois were on coaching. They shat the bed against UCLA because they weren't prepared. They lost to Illinois because of a boneheaded decision by the head coach.
 
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NickRU714

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That’s not true because Cignetti negotiated an NIL pool and salary pool for assistants. They also had a lot of transfers that were not from JMU, like quarterback Curtis Rourke, and defensive lineman CJ West, whom they outbid Rutgers for. They had enough NIL to be successful and a lot more than Rutgers.

And yet you still felt Rutgers was ahead of them to start 2024, right?
Even after all the NIL and infrastructure spending.

They were still less talented and behind Rutgers?

Just making sure everyone is aware that YLU thought Rutgers had the more talented team going into 2024 and was still ahead of Indiana.
 

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And yet you still felt Rutgers was ahead of them to start 2024, right?
Even after all the NIL and infrastructure spending.

They were still less talented and behind Rutgers?

Just making sure everyone is aware that YLU thought Rutgers had the more talented team going into 2024 and was still ahead of Indiana.
I believe, according to Al, that the 2024 team was supposed to be RU's best ever. RU didn't play any of the best teams in the B1G that year, and wound up with a 4-5 record in conference. Indiana finished 8-1 in conference and beat Michigan.
 

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That’s not true because Cignetti negotiated an NIL pool and salary pool for assistants. They also had a lot of transfers that were not from JMU, like quarterback Curtis Rourke, and defensive lineman CJ West, whom they outbid Rutgers for. They had enough NIL to be successful and a lot more than Rutgers.
Lol this guy is like schianos karoline leavitt..
 

NickRU714

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I believe, according to Al, that the 2024 team was supposed to be RU's best ever. RU didn't play any of the best teams in the B1G that year, and wound up with a 4-5 record in conference. Indiana finished 8-1 in conference and beat Michigan.

Correct.
Despite all the infrastructure and NIL spent by every other team in the conference, Rutgers was more talented.

Now, Al will say "we had no depth....injuries".

Ok.
But that means, @rutgersal_rivals139582 believed that our starters were more talented than everyone else.
Despite Indiana spending $86m on infrastructure and $10m NIL - Rutgers starters were more talented than Indiana starters.

Do I have that right, @rutgersal_rivals139582 ?


 
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Caliknight

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“I have a parking pass and season ticket to maintain” lol.

Al is broke. If having a parking pass and 6 tickets to game is something he needs to try and “maintain” he has little income. No wonder he doesn’t donate and just begs everyone else to. He can’t because he’s broke.
 
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Crazy how he outed himself as one of the people he's been railing against for years. No wonder he dodged every question about how much he was donating.

At the end of the day, Al was nothing more than a deadbeat fan. Just sad.
Deadbeat Al is not a Rutgers fan.
 
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He should really change the thread title. “Rutgers doesn’t win because people like me don’t donate enough”

DeadbeatAl. Has a nice ring to it. Shocked it took this long to figure out he was a fugazi fan this entire time


Say whatever you want. Doesn’t bother me. Someday you’ll be on my level. Too bad it’s not today.
 
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To me, you seem to be saying that despite spending $86m on infrastructure and raising $10m on NIL, in 2024 everyone (including you) still thought Indiana was behind Rutgers.

How can that be?

There was no reason for me to follow them. We weren’t playing them, and we just smoked them the previous year. So they just weren’t on my radar. The only thing I really followed about them was that they changed coaches.
 
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I believe, according to Al, that the 2024 team was supposed to be RU's best ever. RU didn't play any of the best teams in the B1G that year, and wound up with a 4-5 record in conference. Indiana finished 8-1 in conference and beat Michigan.

We had the frontline talent to be RUs best team ever. We lose Toure and he leads Miami to a National Championship instead. We also lost our left guard, among others. Monangai is killing it in the NFL.

If we had stayed healthy, we could have been a playoff team.

This is why we need a fieldhouse and better nil support. Because in our present state, we will never have enough depth to go far.
 

knightfan7

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That’s not true because Cignetti negotiated an NIL pool and salary pool for assistants. They also had a lot of transfers that were not from JMU, like quarterback Curtis Rourke, and defensive lineman CJ West, whom they outbid Rutgers for. They had enough NIL to be successful and a lot more than Rutgers.
He himself said the NIL$ he received was much more than was expected.
 

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I believe, according to Al, that the 2024 team was supposed to be RU's best ever. RU didn't play any of the best teams in the B1G that year, and wound up with a 4-5 record in conference. Indiana finished 8-1 in conference and beat Michigan.
Yes, he wrote this delusional thread totally not understanding the quality of the roster before the injuries occurred.

https://www.on3.com/boards/threads/...om-winning-the-national-championship.6647507/

Not factoring in that injuries occur and how ready the backups are to fill in are rookie mistakes. They were never going to be a 10 win team or sleeper CFP team like some looney analysts were putting out there for clicks.