Does anyone on the right have any issue with a Trump-IRS settlement ?
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@Aardvark86, @LafayetteBear, could the judge reject the proposed settlement and basically force the IRS to defend themselves?
I don’t actually know what you’re talking about but not sure. I assume it’s not a class action where there’s a judicial role of verifying fairness, or a criminal plea
i am ok with this if it means a reduction in back channel payments from foreign adversaries
just saying that i don’t want the prez to be in a position where he has to worry about paying his bills and someone else comes to his rescue particularly when he is visiting chyna…would rather that the taxpayer foot the bill so he is completely on our side…and yes that’s meant at least partially as a joke
Add me to that list. I guess we are losers for having a life that isn’t politics 24/7
Because Trump doesn’t take a presidential salary, I only think it’s apt that he has access to other taxpayer funds.
How can you put a price on all the fighting he’s doing for us?
How can you put a price on all the fighting he’s doing for us?
Yeah but he said he will give it all to charity and there's nobody more trustworthy than Trump. Most trustworthy president in history
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I'm ok with him suing over release of his tax returns...that's illegal....but $10 billion seems a little excessive to me (and just about any rational person)
Maybe you should postpone any hysteria until you see what the actual settlement is - if there is one.
I feel ashamed admitting this I think but I am also on the unaware list.
There's the aardvark we know and....well, know.
He's suing the IRS for 10B of our tax dollars, because he wants to.
Donald Trump’s $10 Billion IRS Lawsuit Could End in Major Settlement — Report
Sources suggest that the Department of Justice is considering whether to settle Donald Trump‘s $10 billion lawsuit against the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) in the upcoming days. They’re yet to decid...
The contractor has already paid a heavy price - he's in jail for years and his company lost all their contracts. A moral, fiscally responsible president would leave it alone instead of using it for another scheme to enrich himself. Unless he just doesn't care.
Trump sued the IRS for $10 billion in January.
Normally the DOJ would put up a defense. But since the DOJ is Trump, they are now going to settle and not fight the lawsuit.
So basically he’s settling with himself, only we’re paying the tab.
Ah! That. I have seen that sort of headline before, but whenever I see a lawsuit that seeks $10 billion dollars, pretty much by any one or from anyone, I just assume it's frivolous and don't spend a lot of time and energy following it.
Would you be interested in it if the claim was “only” $1B?
I think it's fair to typically assume this but, in this case, the people Trump is suing work for him.
Is there anything in the legal system to protect the citizens for blatant pocket lining, here?
against the government? Probably not, unless you're a defense contractor, because you can't get punitive damages against the government, and no schmo is going to suffer a billion in actual damages from something the G (let alone the IRS) did to them.
I have no doubt that this is a circus sideshow, but I just don't find circus sideshows worth the investment of time.
Sure, but in this case the plaintiff is the literal boss of the defendant. Make that make sense to us non lawyer types. Even if it is legal it strikes me as is highly unethical.
How could a reasonable DOJ attorney be a good steward of the taxpayer’s dollars when their boss could fire them if they don’t settle?
And why would average rule of law conservatives support such things?
Now that I know what we're actually talking about, I would imagine that at the end of the day, in a case like this, a judge would have discretion to lean into things if there is a case before hiim/her. Usually, if there is a motion for voluntary dismissal due to a settlement, the judge has to 'grant' that. Where as here there is certainly the potential conflict of interest, he/she might do a variety of things, ranging from evaluating process and whether there were negotiation firewalls, naming a court appointed expert to review the terms for reasonableness, have a hearing, etc. I have some doubt that, say, Rocky could hire a lawyer to file objections as a taxpayer - that sort of thing usually applies to class actions. (The only other scenario like that that comes to mind immediately is when the FTC does a settlement, like the pending PBM settlements, that imposes conduct remedies on a party, and the public usually has 30 days to file comments to make sure that the "settlement" doesn't just impose obligations or costs on parties that aren't actually a part of it.)
Trust me - any reasonable doj attorney has told their boss that there is no ******* way that they are taking an assignment to handle the resolution of this matter.
And to be clear, I hope you're not inferring that i support such things. I think this claim is nonsense from everything I've heard about it....which ain't that much
Now you’re just playing games.
Same as you did back on the old board.
No not inferring that you support such things at all, sorry if you took it that way - it was not intended as a shot at you.
I question in a world where the DOJ has experimented with folks like Alina Habba how many reasonable DOJ attorneys are left? Trump’s handpicked interim AG will just hand it to one of the more ethically flexible attorneys….why wouldn’t they approach it that way?
Playing games? Who's posting rhetorical question threads my friend? poka.
Everybody’s concerns were “rhetorical” to you in 2024 and much of it has come true. Then Trump got into office and you disappeared soon after. I don’t blame you.
You’re still citing procedure and precedent and norms as if any of those mean anything to this Administration.
Yeah, I gotcha now and I do recall that. I haven't heard anything recent from such a ridiculous lawsuit from the orange cheeto in charge so figured it was laughed right out of the courts as it should be. God I hate Trump.
How effed up are we as a country that we have a sitting president suing the government for $10 billion, the government likely paying it our to please him, and few people are aware of it?
So if the IRS were to say they'd settle for $9B and Trump were to say "ok", a court could say that's preposterous?