Expectations for the upcoming football season

Catlogic1552

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I’ve been a UK football fan for nearly 50 years. It’s basically been a Charlie Brown/Lucy situation the entire time.

In elementary school I watched us go 10-1 in ‘77. Curci then has 4 straight losing seasons and is fired.

Claiborne turns it around rather quickly, finishes 9-3 and in Top 20 in ‘84. We’ve finally turned the corner, right? Wrong…Claiborne never makes another bowl game in last 5 seasons.

Bill Curry takes over in ‘90. Went to hear him speak not long after he got the job, and was thoroughly impressed. This guy is gonna get it done, I thought. Wrong again…1 bowl game in 7 years.

Mumme comes in with an exciting, seemingly unstoppable offense. Puts 68 on Louisville in ‘98 opener. I’m thinking again, we’ve turned the corner. Well, no…recruiting violations…bye-bye Mumme.

Brooks, fighting probation roster limitations, slowly builds a really competitive team. The win over #1 LSU in ‘07 (probably the best win in our modern history) had me thinking—again—now we have finally arrived. We can play with the big boys. Well…not exactly. Finished that season by petering out, and then two more 7-6 seasons.

Finally, Stoops has two 10-win seasons in 4 years, begins ‘22 season 4-0, and we’re ranked in the top ten. Then Levis gets hurt at Ole Miss, and so begins an incredible slide—Stoops goes 19-27 to finish out his career.

Now, Will Stein. He seems to be saying and doing all the right things. Seems to be recruiting well. But I just can’t get excited anymore, fellas. He may be the one who finally turns the corner…but until it actually happens, I’m not going to expect too much. I’ll still go to games, still watch every game, but I’m just not gonna trick myself again—and just be pleasantly surprised if it happens.
Brooks could have turned this around but got screwed by the administration. Everything about the football program was woefully inadequate if not embarrassing. The facilities were 1950’s. The Shively center was a joke. UK came around to an extent but Brooks had already said adios. Had UK committed to him, the football program may have a different legacy.
 

Rainmaker

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5 or less wins being a failure is a wild take with this schedule. The most likely outcomes, frankly, are a 4 or a 5 win season. I hope the unreal expectations don’t do more damage than good to Stein before things even get started.

People are really underestimating just how brutal this year’s schedule is.
5 wins would show zero improvement, slightly tougher schedule or not that would be a failure. I believe stein wins 7 at least, he brings a winning mentality and has done a great job recruiting. We didn’t fire Stoops to not improve immediately, if fans are okay with winning only 5 again then expectations are way too low.
 

Im The Village Idiot

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5 wins would show zero improvement, slightly tougher schedule or not that would be a failure. I believe stein wins 7 at least, he brings a winning mentality and has done a great job recruiting. We didn’t fire Stoops to not improve immediately, if fans are okay with winning only 5 again then expectations are way too low.
I think Stein will get there for sure. People need to give him time. Don’t forget Rich Brooks first year, he brought back a haul from the previous Guy Morriss team that went 7-5 and he struggled in year one. It took some time. Stein is a new head coach and we should exercise patience IMO
 

CRZ4UK

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It’s crazy how different people feel about football vs Basketball. Everyone says Stein is killing recruiting so we can’t have a NIL problem. Then pick us to win 5 games.
Stein isn’t killing recruiting. He will finish in the bottom of the SEC.
Basketball had one bad season , after a sweet 16 and our fans are ready to run Pope out of town because he can’t recruit. He is still recruiting circles around the football team. We won’t finish 12th in the SEC in basketball.
Both teams are not recruiting at a satisfactory level. It isn’t the coaches. Our NIL system sucks and you can thank Barnhart for that.

Your take on football recruiting is just wrong.
Kentucky's incoming Transfer ranking from 247 sports is 4th best among SEC schools and and 11th nationally. The current in progress 2027 rankings Kentucky is currently 4th among SEC Schools and 11th nationally. Rivals has them currently 7th Among SEC schools
That’s your opinion. I don’t believe I’m wrong at all.
At this time one year Stoops had the number 1 class. We just have early commits.
If memory serves me last I checked we had 3 four stars and 9 three stars. That’s not gonna be anywhere in the top 20 when it all shakes out.
Check back with me at the end of the cycle. We most likely will be where we always are. 10-12 in the conference
I know Stein got here late last year. His portal class ranked 9th. Stoops last 2 portal classes ranked 6th and 13th. Riight about average with Stein.
Kentucky never has, or never will recruit football with the national elite. We expect basketball to do it every year.
Different expectations.
The entire purpose of my post wasn’t to argue football recruiting. It’s that we are not recruiting with the big boys in football or basketball. I think that’s because our NIL structure sucks under Barnhart sweetheart kickback deal with JMI.
 
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Cignetti proved you can turn a crap team around into a playoff team in one offseason.

First, he had more than one off-season. Second, he brought a huge chunk of his roster from his previous stop which was a top 15-25 team. Third they had incredible financial support which allowed them to buy, among others, the top qb in the portal who is now the top overall nfl pick.

I love cignetti and think he's amazing. However the myth behind that turnaround has just grown way out of control. He was the catalyst but it was a perfect storm of everything.
 

Chadrock

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I think Stein will get there for sure. People need to give him time. Don’t forget Rich Brooks first year, he brought back a haul from the previous Guy Morriss team that went 7-5 and he struggled in year one. It took some time. Stein is a new head coach and we should exercise patience IMO
Agree with this perspective and I will throw out my guess for this coming year, 8-4.

I can expand on the rationale later but to put it short - UK football has experienced the complete positive overhaul zenith many of us have been clamoring for since that December night after we routed UL for what seemed like the 100th time in a row (the night we were hearing about Stoops to TAM and then fizzle).

At that point, I could see the hot air balloon starting to lose altitude absurdly fast and with, my enthusiasm. The NIL/TP landscape has made it easier for teams like us to greatly improve while traditional cheating teams fade (see Florida State of late).

Not saying we will blueprint IU's success the last two years - but I will say I have changed my attitude with WS and company on board to the point where I renewed my seats after swearing off UK football during the SC game two years ago. Looking forward to it!
 

Anon412769

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Agree with this perspective and I will throw out my guess for this coming year, 8-4.

I can expand on the rationale later but to put it short - UK football has experienced the complete positive overhaul zenith many of us have been clamoring for since that December night after we routed UL for what seemed like the 100th time in a row (the night we were hearing about Stoops to TAM and then fizzle).

At that point, I could see the hot air balloon starting to lose altitude absurdly fast and with, my enthusiasm. The NIL/TP landscape has made it easier for teams like us to greatly improve while traditional cheating teams fade (see Florida State of late).

Not saying we will blueprint IU's success the last two years - but I will say I have changed my attitude with WS and company on board to the point where I renewed my seats after swearing off UK football during the SC game two years ago. Looking forward to it!
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Anon412769

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5 wins would show zero improvement, slightly tougher schedule or not that would be a failure. I believe stein wins 7 at least, he brings a winning mentality and has done a great job recruiting. We didn’t fire Stoops to not improve immediately, if fans are okay with winning only 5 again then expectations are way too low.
Stick to basketball...oh wait, you're clueless there too. It would depend on how the team looked in those 5 wins AND the 7 losses. Were they competitive or blown out? Did they appear to be prepared or not? You get the idea (well you probably don't but 5 wins can still be considered vast improvement). In 7 losses last year, we weren't remotely competitive in 5 of them. And the last 2 the team just completely quit. Stick to terrible basketball takes
 

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Cignetti proved you can turn a crap team around into a playoff team in one offseason.
Indiana had a fairly easy schedule his first year & he brought a “system“ & “team“ with him.
Ky 2026 is starting from scratch. But what a great optimistic start.Go 5-7 but be in every game after 3/4 & it’s a great season. Stoops was a great asst coach with great assistants.We have great coaches in almost all sports.
Stein is a future BigTime coach, Can Ky keep him long term is the ??????
 
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BlueVelvetFog

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Relax mouth breather. Go ahead lower expectations. Send us back to the bottom of the SEC. We have the best roster maybe we’ve had ever it’s a possibility. ESPN has a ninth in the SEC. Any team that’s top 10 in the SEC in this new SEC they’re gonna get a bid. I don’t know what you one person with has us going to a ball game I mean, nobody cares about Kentucky enough to project whether they will go to a ball game or not. I mean this football mentality has dragged our basketball program into this defeatist mentality. You called me an idiot.? for saying I think we’ll win six games and go to a ball game. These types are the same people that want Barney to stay and continue to stay and stay and stay and stay.. listen with our roster compared across all the SEC if we don’t go to a bowl game which is winning six games no one saying anything about seven. We don’t go to a ball game if we can’t win six games next year then yes it will be a failure.. why? Because Stein needs all the time that he can get with his new team.. going to even toilet bowl extend the season which means a little bit more money. It would be huge for recruiting.. I mean as evident that Stein can bring in big-time recruits having a game broadcast in late December. Our football program could really takeoff. But yeah as an individual season, I think we should have collective goals to make at least a bowl game. It’s not healthy for our fan base to call one another idiot especially for something positive like a little bit elevated expectations like seeing us go to a bowl game in steins first season. What the heck is wrong with some of these people. We should’ve fired Barney 15 years ago.. but I’m gonna tell you from reading wildcat lair posting there and being a member here since 2000 our football fans need to step it up a notch.

I was talking to my father-in-law last year and he’s a huge Kentucky football fan. He’s a Kentucky football fan before anything else.. and why? He says because he just likes to see us make good plays. Score a touchdown get a defensive stop.. turnover/ he likes those things. If we lose he doesn’t care too much as long as we have some great moments of excitement. He admitted what I’ve always believed a lot of Kentucky football fans to be.. It’s starting to contaminate the basketball program.. I mean back to Barney 15 years ago I was fighting with football fans over Barney. They thought he was some kind of God. Listen never made a new year six never made a playoff. I mean our highest ranking and best season we have to vacate..

Barney has managed to get our basketball fans specially the younger ones to accept sweet 16 seasons as success. And I mean, they are a success if every three years you’re getting to a final four. Every other year, making an elite 8. This is the Kentucky standard in basketball. Just attitude of calling idiot and lowering expectations is killing. Our basketball program. Football is always been on life-support. I even thought it was a stupid move to fire stoop at this point.. he’s competitive hell if we head beat Texas, he’d still be the coach. But Barney made a move another unilateral higher. And it’s possible he struck Gold possible. No one seen this guy coach. No one seen this guy run a program, but that’s why I say season will be a failure if we don’t make. A bowl game.. there’s too much talent on the team.
This is terrible. Your FIL sounds like a great fan. He hopes for effort and execution. In fb If they fall short, they tried and it's nice to win. Theres always next week.

Not sure what your asking from players but it sounds like your life's happiness is built on winning basketball games
 
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Relax mouth breather. Go ahead lower expectations. Send us back to the bottom of the SEC. We have the best roster maybe we’ve had ever it’s a possibility. ESPN has a ninth in the SEC. Any team that’s top 10 in the SEC in this new SEC they’re gonna get a bid. I don’t know what you one person with has us going to a ball game I mean, nobody cares about Kentucky enough to project whether they will go to a ball game or not. I mean this football mentality has dragged our basketball program into this defeatist mentality. You called me an idiot.? for saying I think we’ll win six games and go to a ball game. These types are the same people that want Barney to stay and continue to stay and stay and stay and stay.. listen with our roster compared across all the SEC if we don’t go to a bowl game which is winning six games no one saying anything about seven. We don’t go to a ball game if we can’t win six games next year then yes it will be a failure.. why? Because Stein needs all the time that he can get with his new team.. going to even toilet bowl extend the season which means a little bit more money. It would be huge for recruiting.. I mean as evident that Stein can bring in big-time recruits having a game broadcast in late December. Our football program could really takeoff. But yeah as an individual season, I think we should have collective goals to make at least a bowl game. It’s not healthy for our fan base to call one another idiot especially for something positive like a little bit elevated expectations like seeing us go to a bowl game in steins first season. What the heck is wrong with some of these people. We should’ve fired Barney 15 years ago.. but I’m gonna tell you from reading wildcat lair posting there and being a member here since 2000 our football fans need to step it up a notch.

I was talking to my father-in-law last year and he’s a huge Kentucky football fan. He’s a Kentucky football fan before anything else.. and why? He says because he just likes to see us make good plays. Score a touchdown get a defensive stop.. turnover/ he likes those things. If we lose he doesn’t care too much as long as we have some great moments of excitement. He admitted what I’ve always believed a lot of Kentucky football fans to be.. It’s starting to contaminate the basketball program.. I mean back to Barney 15 years ago I was fighting with football fans over Barney. They thought he was some kind of God. Listen never made a new year six never made a playoff. I mean our highest ranking and best season we have to vacate..

Barney has managed to get our basketball fans specially the younger ones to accept sweet 16 seasons as success. And I mean, they are a success if every three years you’re getting to a final four. Every other year, making an elite 8. This is the Kentucky standard in basketball. Just attitude of calling idiot and lowering expectations is killing. Our basketball program. Football is always been on life-support. I even thought it was a stupid move to fire stoop at this point.. he’s competitive hell if we head beat Texas, he’d still be the coach. But Barney made a move another unilateral higher. And it’s possible he struck Gold possible. No one seen this guy coach. No one seen this guy run a program, but that’s why I say season will be a failure if we don’t make. A bowl game.. there’s too much talent on the team.

Ever heard of spell check?

Please, give it a try. For all of our sakes.
 

Skyguyb27

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5 or less wins = failure
6 wins = meh lets see what year 2 brings
7 wins = successful season heading into the right direction but nothing spectacular
8+ wins = a true turn around and bright future ahead
Anything more than 2 wins is a net positive because that’s all Stoops may have one this year.
 
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Cignetti proved you can turn a crap team around into a playoff team in one offseason.
Showed the possibility but plausibility is a number of steps away and likely is still a huge uphill battle.

Locking onto an exception doesn't mean the rule is no longer an issue.

Maybe Cignetti is an incredible genius playing chess while everyone else is playing tic tac toe or checkers at best or was insanely fortunate and IU falls right back into the cellar.

A larger sample size than one is needed to identify any pattern.