Anyone worried about the LB situation?

JerseyCityHawk

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I think Buffington is going to be more than solid but I am worried about Montgomery… even though he had a very good year in ‘25 he’s got some great instincts and can fly to the ball but me thinks a bigger LB like Buff would be awesome. However, if he starts I am and will always be a big fan of him as he’s waited for his turn. Will see
 

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I listened to the Hawk Central podcast when they went through all the position groups. I'm not worried about the LB's because it sounds like they are very talented and deep. Very little experience does give me some pause tho.

Much more concerned about the DL and the special teams (punter and kicker). Iowa has long thrived on limiting the running game and winning close games with special teams. Finger crossed for that to continue into 2026.

But MAYBE - the offense will break some games open this year and the Hawks won't have to rely on FG's and punts quite so much.
 

JerseyCityHawk

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Just so we’re clear….

You’re concerned about him AND will be a big fan if he starts? Ok yeah, got it. Clear as mud.

Another absolutely pointless thread. Good job.
Nope - get back on your meds and go back to bed .. always some smart *** out there hijacking posts and you have just more than a few - get lost
 

nu2u

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acclimation/ adjustments vs. non-cons.

noticeable improvement by conference opener.

typical solid unit by mid-season.

Monsters by Black Friday.
 

rchawk

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Van Kekerix will probably start this year, and Iowa has Weisskopf (sp), Ries, and Cooney chomping at the bit to play. Some very talented newcomers could play at many other schools but will probably have to bide their time at Iowa.
 

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They were a concern last year, but this year it seems we're set with guys like Buffington who everyone is really high on. I'm much more concerned about the DLine. If we have teams punching it up the gut for 5 ypc or giving the QB all the time in the world to throw, we're in serious trouble.
 

eyesofhawk

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They were a concern last year, but this year it seems we're set with guys like Buffington who everyone is really high on. I'm much more concerned about the DLine. If we have teams punching it up the gut for 5 ypc or giving the QB all the time in the world to throw, we're in serious trouble.
But Iowa gaining yards, punching it up the gut, doesn't put anyone in serious trouble?

Run the ball
 

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Don't sleep on Gautcher either. A lot of talent at LB and DB which bodes well for special teams as well. DL is the biggest concern. Iowa's defense relies on the DL to fill gaps so the LB's can make plays. If it's swiss cheese up front then the LB's will look exposed.
 
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I think we will be better this year. If Montgomery starts he will be good. I think someone may pass him though. That person will play in the nfl. Buffington will be all big ten.
 

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I’m not concerned about the LB room. I’m not convinced though that Montgomery is a B10 quality LB and I’m afraid he will get more snaps than more talented LBers.
Why would he get more snaps than more quality linebackers, if he's not a quality big ten linebacker? You think the lb group is that thin? Trust in Phil... the best will play.
 

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I’m not concerned about the LB room. I’m not convinced though that Montgomery is a B10 quality LB and I’m afraid he will get more snaps than more talented LBers.
Did you not watch last season when Monty proved to be a big ten LB?

Why would be afraid of him playing. Clearly, the staff will play who gives the best chance of winning
 

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Did you not watch last season when Monty proved to be a big ten LB?

Why would be afraid of him playing. Clearly, the staff will play who gives the best chance of winning
That is such a tired phrase-and meaningless. The contention has always been "does that give us the best chance to win, or is that just what the coaches THINK
gives us the best chance to win?".
 
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eyesofhawk

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That is such a tired phrase-and meaningless. The contention has always been "does that give us the best chance to win, or is that just what the coaches THINK
gives us the best chance to win".
Not meaningless at all. That's who gets on the field.

I feel sorry for anyone who thinks the staff doesn't know who gives them the best chance to win.

What's tiring, is dumbass fans
 

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Did you not watch last season when Monty proved to be a big ten LB?

Why would be afraid of him playing. Clearly, the staff will play who gives the best chance of winning
Kirk has proven if all things are relatively equal from a production standpoint, he defaults to the more veteran player. He values player being in the right position 98% of the time over a player that might only be in the right position 90% of the time despite that player having better athletic talent.

To me, at some point, the athletic talent outweighs that and you should learn to live with the growing pains. Montgomery is undersized and slow. Even if he makes the right read every time he’s going to be outmatched in a lot of scenarios.

And to your first point did I watch the games. Absolutely that’s why I’m convinced. He’s not a big 10 quality linebacker. Did he make sure tackles when he could. Sure. But there were times he was overmatched in the box and got outrun on angles.
 

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No, I think it’s going to be a strength. Buff is a monster who is going to enter 2027 as a hot NFL draft name.

We made a conscious effort a few years ago to improve the recruiting at the position and it’s coming to fruition this season.
 

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Not meaningless at all. That's who gets on the field.

I feel sorry for anyone who thinks the staff doesn't know who gives them the best chance to win.
Just clarifying your position here. Is it your opinion that the coaches always know which players give them the best chance to win, or are they wrong sometimes?
 

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Kirk has proven if all things are relatively equal from a production standpoint, he defaults to the more veteran player. He values player being in the right position 98% of the time over a player that might only be in the right position 90% of the time despite that player having better athletic talent.

To me, at some point, the athletic talent outweighs that and you should learn to live with the growing pains. Montgomery is undersized and slow. Even if he makes the right read every time he’s going to be outmatched in a lot of scenarios.

And to your first point did I watch the games. Absolutely that’s why I’m convinced. He’s not a big 10 quality linebacker. Did he make sure tackles when he could. Sure. But there were times he was overmatched in the box and got outrun on angles.
What you say is mostly correct, and thoughtfully broken down.

But certainly, the value of experience can't be undersold. It largely determines playing time in every sport, throughout the development of young men, for a reason.

Being in the right position, allows players to play at their fastest. An inexperienced, more athletic player, isn't always able to play fast enough to fully use his athletiscm.

But much more importantly, because football is a team game, not having complete trust that a less experienced player is going to be in the correct position, actually doesn't allow his adjacent teammates to play at their fastest.

Football is complicated. Experience is huge. Jayden is also a team leader. Leadership in itself is huge. But he is also teaching the room, and displaying the right examples, and helping the players in the room grow in the right direction, and get better.

It's all way to much to say about what amounts to common sense. Experience is huge. And KF knows what he's doing.

Yes, with the upside in the room, there could soon come a time when it's best to roll with someone other than the incumbent.

But guys have to get to that point in their development. Fans trick themselves far too easily with hindsight. The more athletic player goes on to being a great player, and fans fall into thinking that somehow the coaches are idiots, and that Johnny should have been playing all along.

Then, they project they're genuis hindsight onto the next situation, and claim Coach is playing the wrong guy again. Then they will swear to have been proven correct, when the guy with the upside blossoms.

It's called "DEVELOPMENT". Also known as, "reality". And guess who is the most informed about a player's stage of development. And, guess who has the most football expertise to know how to apply his information. And guess who has the best chance of deciphering who gives the team its best chance of winning. The cycle of fan narrative becomes silly every time, because they are not the answer to any of the above.

Again, way too much to say about the silliness of worrying about the football decisions of a hall of fame football coach.

But it should also be said that not only does the staff know who should play. But so do the players.

Everyone knows their stories of politics in sports, growing up. But at the major college football level, it's simply not OK to players, for the right guys not to play. And it can divide a team.

Iowa traditionally, has had great buy-in and togetherness, great culture, and great retention. Rest assured, a huge part of that is the fact that the right guys have been playing
 

eyesofhawk

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Just clarifying your position here. Is it your opinion that the coaches always know which players give them the best chance to win, or are they wrong sometimes?
It is my position, that I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't understand that Iowa's football staff has the best chance of deciphering who gives them the best chance in football activities.

Because I'm aware of the fan tendency to double down on stupidity, and repeat that, "he isn't ALWAYS right", I will make you aware of how silly it would look to have any significant football complaint about a hall of fame football coach
 

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It is my position, that I feel sorry for anyone who doesn't understand that Iowa's football staff has the best chance of deciphering who gives them the best chance in football activities.

Because I'm aware of the fan tendency to double down on stupidity, and repeat that, "he isn't ALWAYS right", I will make you aware of how silly it would look to have any significant football complaint about a hall of fame football coach
So are you saying Kirk and staff aren’t always right…yes or no? (simple question, just answer yes or no)
 
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Kirk has proven if all things are relatively equal from a production standpoint, he defaults to the more veteran player. He values player being in the right position 98% of the time over a player that might only be in the right position 90% of the time despite that player having better athletic talent.

To me, at some point, the athletic talent outweighs that and you should learn to live with the growing pains. Montgomery is undersized and slow. Even if he makes the right read every time he’s going to be outmatched in a lot of scenarios.

And to your first point did I watch the games. Absolutely that’s why I’m convinced. He’s not a big 10 quality linebacker. Did he make sure tackles when he could. Sure. But there were times he was overmatched in the box and got outrun on angles.
Should also be said, that Monty playing would be Phil's decision.

Now, if Monty doesn't play well, and it appears someone else may be the better option, it would then become KF's responsibility
 
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What you say is mostly correct, and thoughtfully broken down.

But certainly, the value of experience can't be undersold. It largely determines playing time in every sport, throughout the development of young men, for a reason.

Being in the right position, allows players to play at their fastest. An inexperienced, more athletic player, isn't always able to play fast enough to fully use his athletiscm.

But much more importantly, because football is a team game, not having complete trust that a less experienced player is going to be in the correct position, actually doesn't allow his adjacent teammates to play at their fastest.

Football is complicated. Experience is huge. Jayden is also a team leader. Leadership in itself is huge. But he is also teaching the room, and displaying the right examples, and helping the players in the room grow in the right direction, and get better.

It's all way to much to say about what amounts to common sense. Experience is huge. And KF knows what he's doing.

Yes, with the upside in the room, there could soon come a time when it's best to roll with someone other than the incumbent.

But guys have to get to that point in their development. Fans trick themselves far too easily with hindsight. The more athletic player goes on to being a great player, and fans fall into thinking that somehow the coaches are idiots, and that Johnny should have been playing all along.

Then, they project they're genuis hindsight onto the next situation, and claim Coach is playing the wrong guy again. Then they will swear to have been proven correct, when the guy with the upside blossoms.

It's called "DEVELOPMENT". Also known as, "reality". And guess who is the most informed about a player's stage of development. And, guess who has the most football expertise to know how to apply his information. And guess who has the best chance of deciphering who gives the team its best chance of winning. The cycle of fan narrative becomes silly every time, because they are not the answer to any of the above.

Again, way too much to say about the silliness of worrying about the football decisions of a hall of fame football coach.

But it should also be said that not only does the staff know who should play. But so do the players.

Everyone knows their stories of politics in sports, growing up. But at the major college football level, it's simply not OK to players, for the right guys not to play. And it can divide a team.

Iowa traditionally, has had great buy-in and togetherness, great culture, and great retention. Rest assured, a huge part of that is the fact that the right guys have been playing
It’s really a philosophical difference and I understand both viewpoints. Kirk I think likes to reward those veterans and looks as much at the leadership payoff as anything. Hayden would play the younger guy with higher ceiling if all else was equal. I probably lean more towards Hayden’s philosophy but that’s easier to say when I don’t have to deal with the chemistry of a locker room.