Loser still can't get over the fact that his favorite player is a Badger.Strawman Jonesy is afraid his daughter won’t start. His disparaging Deal comments have always been self-serving.
Loser still can't get over the fact that his favorite player is a Badger.Strawman Jonesy is afraid his daughter won’t start. His disparaging Deal comments have always been self-serving.
Maybe? It'd be the first time you've been right about anything on here. I doubt it, but even a broken clock...Stop stressing. TS isn’t competing for the 4.
I predict the starting lineup to include Journey at 3. TS really wasn’t JJs choice to start at beginning of season or after TM went down. JJ is thinking how to max talent. But I think TS will be really valuable coming off the bench.
We definitely came out on the better end on this, just like when we lost Guyton but landed Chit Chat. I'll take those trades any day.I think most people probably agree with you but Deal, her parents and her agent decided otherwise. So instead we ended up with a 1st team all SEC player. I like the trade off.
Blessed Portal.We definitely came out on the better end on this, just like when we lost Guyton but landed Chit Chat. I'll take those trades any day.
The portal adds were to cover for the graduating seniors.We definitely came out on the better end on this, just like when we lost Guyton but landed Chit Chat. I'll take those trades any day.
The evidence in his previous posts is what is known as circumstantial, which is not conclusive. I personally doubt that he would waste his time on this forum but even if he did, I would not blame him for his support for his own daughter.The evidence is in his previous posts. The odd fixation with TS more than the rest of the team. The disparaging comments of other players.,But regardless, I think you’re right. I think the versatility is critical.
I think in Jans offense more 1 in 4 out so the 3/4 are kind of interchangeable. McKenna said she'd play more wing in college, so we'll see....I think she'll play the 4 no?
I'm not sure JJ prefers to play 4 out. Lisa Bluder is certainly, but JJ started the first 18 games of her career as HC playing Hannah and O'Grady in the first season, and in the second season she started every game [that they were available] with Hannah and Ava Heiden. In 68 games, Jan played 48 with 3 out -2 in.I think in Jans offense more 1 in 4 out so the 3/4 are kind of interchangeable. McKenna said she'd play more wing in college, so we'll see....
I'm not sure JJ prefers to play 4 out. Lisa Bluder is certainly, but JJ started the first 18 games of her career as HC playing Hannah and O'Grady in the first season, and in the second season she started every game [that they were available] with Hannah and Ava Heiden. In 68 games, Jan played 48 with 3 out -2 in.
Obviously, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm responding to the coment "Jans offense more 1 in 4 out" saying that I'm not sure about that because she played more than 70% of her career games with a 3 out - 2 in. And also, "she is recognized for developing elite post players" (Hawkeye Report), so unless she has explicitly said that she prefers to play 4 out, it's difficult to be certain about it.Any coach is going to adjust to the players that need to be on the court.
Jan didn't have enough shooters, especially this year which became painfully obvious. That and she tried her best to put a square peg in a round hole, and drag Hannah toward the skills she'd need to have a pro careers. Never worked out though...I'm not sure JJ prefers to play 4 out. Lisa Bluder is certainly, but JJ started the first 18 games of her career as HC playing Hannah and O'Grady in the first season, and in the second season she started every game [that they were available] with Hannah and Ava Heiden. In 68 games, Jan played 48 with 3 out -2 in.
I think the last two years were for Hannahs benefit to further her career, and that we didn't have enough shooters on the rosterObviously, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm responding to the coment "Jans offense more 1 in 4 out" saying that I'm not sure about that because she played more than 70% of her career games with a 3 out - 2 in. And also, "she is recognized for developing elite post players" (Hawkeye Report), so unless she has explicitly said that she prefers to play 4 out, it's difficult to be certain about it.
We'll know come Nov-Dec.....What’s the scout on McKenna? Is she plug and play right away? If that’s the case I think we are in good shape. I mean Journey could play the 3-4?
Obviously, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm responding to the coment "Jans offense more 1 in 4 out" saying that I'm not sure about that because she played more than 70% of her career games with a 3 out - 2 in. And also, "she is recognized for developing elite post players" (Hawkeye Report), so unless she has explicitly said that she prefers to play 4 out, it's difficult to be certain about it.
Even if she had the best shooters on the roster, Hannah and Ava Heiden would still be starters and she would still play 3 out - 2 in.Jan didn't have enough shooters, especially this year which became painfully obvious. That and she tried her best to put a square peg in a round hole, and drag Hannah toward the skills she'd need to have a pro careers. Never worked out though...
In several interviews Jan has said they ran the 2 post offense because she felt it was the best use of the personel she had. (ie: what do I do with Hannah). She knew Hannah had to be a starter, and she couldn't shoot the ball from the perimeter. Obviously Ava had to start and play major minutes. Hence the 2 post offense. The skill set of next years front court will be much different.Even if she had the best shooters on the roster, Hannah and Ava Heiden would still be starters and she would still play 3 out - 2 in.
I think it will happen at some point, or even start with a 4 out, but based on what we've seen so far, you can't say that "Jans offense more 1 in 4 out". That's just my point.
It might change to 4 out in next season, but that would be a change of pattern and we'll have to wait and see if it actually will happens.
Opponents often get very comfortable defending a specific offensive set from each team. If Layla's development progresses as expected JJ will possibly have the personnel to give teams a difficult scout. Being able to switch off to the 3 out 2 in offense with both Layla and Ava on the floor at the same time. Ava has shown good perimeter skills. This could also provide a degree of protection for Ava on defense by having another big on the floor at the same time.In several interviews Jan has said they ran the 2 post offense because she felt it was the best use of the personel she had. (ie: what do I do with Hannah). She knew Hannah had to be a starter, and she couldn't shoot the ball from the perimeter. Obviously Ava had to start and play major minutes. Hence the 2 post offense. The skill set of next years front court will be much different.
My response was to your posts saying essentially nobody in the portal is better than her based on her stats.but I suspect you knew that.I'm sorry. What's convenient about comparing her stats to the other players on the same team? Did they not have Ava to pass the ball to?
A couple of the well known guard dogs are lumping you in with the anon board idiot even though you've done nothing but offer minor criticism. I was called a troll because I wasn't impressed with JJ late game call vs VA. Stated it one time and her dogs came out on the attack. They are almost as annoying as the constantly negative posters.Everyone has the right to act as they wish, but I don't have a habit of making repetitive, provocative, offensive, or derogatory comments. I don't want to fight with anyone. I don't like to offend or be offended. I just wish I had the freedom to express my opinion about my favorite team without being offended for it.
I'd be totally floored if Ava, and Layla play any real minutes together. IF Layla progresses where she can fill the post when Ava needs a rest or is in foul trouble we'll be in good shape.Opponents often get very comfortable defending a specific offensive set from each team. If Layla's development progresses as expected JJ will possibly have the personnel to give teams a difficult scout. Being able to switch off to the 3 out 2 in offense with both Layla and Ava on the floor at the same time. Ava has shown good perimeter skills. This could also provide a degree of protection for Ava on defense by having another big on the floor at the same time.
Yeah. That ain't happening.Ava and Layla both can struggle with foul problems. Unless they have someone else who can fill in at the 5 in a pinch...I don't see them playing at the same time very often if at all.
I have wondered if Ava could end up as a 4 or some type of hybrid 4/5. I would love to see Layla make major strides this season and MW be very effective.Opponents often get very comfortable defending a specific offensive set from each team. If Layla's development progresses as expected JJ will possibly have the personnel to give teams a difficult scout. Being able to switch off to the 3 out 2 in offense with both Layla and Ava on the floor at the same time. Ava has shown good perimeter skills. This could also provide a degree of protection for Ava on defense by having another big on the floor at the same time.
You still need to defend, and I don't see us playing Layla and Ava on that side of the floor either. Ava is pretty athletic, but you don't want her using a lot of extra energy chasing quicker 4's on the perimeter....I have wondered if Ava could end up as a 4 or some type of hybrid 4/5. I would love to see Layla make major strides this season and MW be very effective.
Okay you lost me there. HOW exactly will we be leaving Ava "alone to guard two bigs" Few teams play two players Ava's size. If its Houston she'll just be at a height disadvantage, maybe against some teams. One of the reasons I think MW plays a lot, is not just her skill on offense, but she's a willing and competent defender with length and she gets off the floor. She'll plenty capable of defending right away. At this point she's way more athletic then Layla. Regardless Ava won't be guarding two bigs.I don't see Ava Heiden and Layla Hays starting. It would be a very heavy and slow team. And Hays has an important role in coming in to bench Heiden for a few minutes. I think the question is whether Houston will start at the 4 or Woliczko. And also whether we'll play 4 out and leave our best player [Heiden], who has problems with fouls, alone to defend two bigs. That's something we'll have to wait until nov/dec to find out. We can't be sure now.
I even edited the comment because that's not the main point, but you were hasty and replied before I finished editing. Please read the edited comment again, and if you want to reply, we can discuss it.Okay you lost me there. HOW exactly will we be leaving Ava "alone to guard two bigs" Few teams play two players Ava's size. If its Houston she'll just be at a height disadvantage, maybe against some teams. One of the reasons I think MW plays a lot, is not just her skill on offense, but she's a willing and competent defender with length and she gets off the floor. She'll plenty capable of defending right away. At this point she's way more athletic then Layla. Regardless Ava won't be guarding two bigs.
MW also played in the high post, and many of those boards are on defense, where she's very good attacking boards out of her area. She could certainly play in the high post or on the wing. Remember "the wing" only relates to where they start in an offensive set. As they rotate the ball she could still end up on ball reversal in the paint or crash the glass especially on shots from the opposite side.I don't see Ava Heiden and Layla Hays starting. It would be a very heavy and slow team. And Hays has an important role in coming in to bench Heiden for a few minutes. I think the question is whether Houston will start at the 4 or Woliczko. And also whether we'll play 4 out. Although Woliczko has said she'd like to play as a wing, she's a player who hits 13 reb, 17 reb and is mostly near the rim. I think she's very similar to Hannah, with the update that she shoot from the deep sometimes. That's something we'll have to wait until nov/dec to find out. We can't be sure now.
I don't know about being "hasty". Obviously there's no way to know when someone is going to edit their post. Yes, I agree. MW can score at all three levels and her versatility will let her play 3/4 something Jan did not have to work with the last two seasons.I even edited the comment because that's not the main point, but you were hasty and replied before I finished editing. Please read the edited comment again, and if you want to reply, we can discuss it.
Get a life is precious from a guy who posts all day on the Internet.Yes because you are epitome of graciousness and not jumping down other peoples throats on this board LOL, and for reference sake this was 2 weeks ago. If you read I even put an edit and apologized. Jeez, some people need to get a life.
Not sure your point because I'm pro Jan for now. Another early exit next and I will be neutral unless we catch an unlucky injury bug. The guard dogs need to quit lumping everyone in with the anon idiot.Not everyone thinks that. When people jump in and say "oh, man hands can't recruit, " or " maybe if she didn't clap so much and wasn't so encouraging " we would be better off. That's an agenda. 100%. With probably the 5th or 6th most talented roster in the Big Ten last year she lead the team to a 2nd place finish and a number 2 seed in the dance. To say she can't recruit when she's brought in a top 5 Freshman in the country, the highest rated player we've EVER had besides CC and now also brought in a top 5 portal player from an SEC school is huge. Yes, we underachieved in the tournament. Clearly. We looked tired and worn down, and our lack of bench hurt us. You want to put that on her I'm ok with that. But over 34 games that team and her accomplished a lot. And by almost all accounts we look to be a top 10 team next year as well. If you have legitimate concerns about her people will listen. If you're here to talk **** just to talk **** it's coming back at you.
I watched some of McKenna's games. All of her games on the USA Team, and she seems like a true PF. She was awarded best PF in the country. Of course, she will be more versatile than Hannah, but that's more because Hannah had a huge deficiency in mid and long range shooting. Of course, MW can also train and develop as a wing, but it's still a process. She arrives in Iowa more as a true PF than as a true wing.MW also played in the high post, and many of those boards are on defense, where she's very good attacking boards out of her area. She could certainly play in the high post or on the wing. Remember "the wing" only relates to where they start in an offensive set. As they rotate the ball she could still end up on ball reversal in the paint or crash the glass especially on shots from the opposite side.
As much as a loved Hannah and her efforts, I truly think that her limitations hamstrung the Iowa lineups the past 2 seasons. She was obviously too good to not play, but because she was only 6'2" she was also too small to be a true 5. Because of her lack of shooting range and lack of "wing-like" ball-handling she was forced to play the. old school 4 position (in the post).I'm not sure JJ prefers to play 4 out. Lisa Bluder is certainly, but JJ started the first 18 games of her career as HC playing Hannah and O'Grady in the first season, and in the second season she started every game [that they were available] with Hannah and Ava Heiden. In 68 games, Jan played 48 with 3 out -2 in.
Yes I do understand that. just saying that we had two good guards transfer out (Deal and Guyton) the past 2 seasons) but we added upgrades in Carnegie and Chit Chat, even if they aren't necessarily direct position-by-position swaps. Two out, better ones in.The portal adds were to cover for the graduating seniors.
Chit Chat for Lucy, just like the Georgia girl for KF and McCabe.
They didn't need to worry about covering for the 7th/8th player as a high priority.
Hannah had limitations, all players do, but having a physical player who fights for every ball under the rim is something every team needs and would like to have. It won't be easy to fill everything Hannah brought to the team, but I hope Woliczko can do that and much more. I don't think Woliczko is like Kate Martin or Syd Affolter game. She's more seems like Hannah game with plus some the mid range and long range. However, McKenna can develop new skills.As much as a loved Hannah and her efforts, I truly think that her limitations hamstrung the Iowa lineups the past 2 seasons. She was obviously too good to not play, but because she was only 6'2" she was also too small to be a true 5. Because of her lack of shooting range and lack of "wing-like" ball-handling she was forced to play the. old school 4 position (in the post).
All of that combined with whatever injuries she had that seemed to zap some of her athleticism, made the offense less efficient. Also, because Iowa lacked a wing that could make the full court passes, Hannah stopped rim running.
This is NOT a bash Hannah post at all. Just pointing out that Iowa was sort of forced into the 2 post offense because of the personnel that they had on the roster.
Moving forward, I would assume that Iowa will go back to the 4 out offense they ran with Caitlin. The key to that offense was that Warnock played the 4 and she could knock down the 3, run the floor and defend other teams 4's. I see Woliczko filling that spot well, if not a little differently. She is probably more of a slasher than a true spot up shooter, which may be an even better fit. Maybe more of a Kate Martin style on the wing