I think Moreno returns regardless. The money will be too good to pass up.
If NIL didn’t exist then yea Pope would be screwed
If NIL didn’t exist then yea Pope would be screwed
Moreno Now Ahead of JQ in the Draft - #24, Gone, IMO
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I just don’t see Moreno as an NBA player. He’s a throwback big that’s MAYBE good from 15 feet out. (Not saying he can’t develop a 3.) But he’s limited athletically and is slow. Not that great of a defender either. He doesn’t have the passing/vision of someone like Jokic or Nurkic to survive as a lumbering big man. Jahlil Okafor was probably the most skilled post player in the past 10 years as far as offensive moves go and more athletic than Moreno but he was out of the league after a few years even after a 17 and 8 rookie season with 1.2 blocks per game just because he can’t move laterally or shoot a 3. (He could also shoot midrange) Moreno may be a better defender but it’s not by much.
I don’t think you are considering that once out of college there are no other time restrictions or school obligations. Basketball in the NBA would literally be his job. The team will give him trainers, nutritionists, psychologists, etc. It would be just up to Moreno to put in the time.
There’s a reason SGA is the league MVP now versus when he came out of college.
Do you really think my opinion or yours proves anything? If you do believe that you simply don't know the definition of proof.
It would be quite the irony if jq sat to save his draft stock but he ended up tanking it by sitting.
Everyone does. It’s part of it.
Lot of Pope haters rooting for Moreno to leave and Momcilovic to go anywhere but UK. Some strange fandom on RR these days
Except his ball handling is the life and can take his man off the dribble. Idk if there's any more important offensive skill than that .
We've got some bitter fans for sure lol
On here talking about JQ has no offensive skill. Lol go back and watch that st johns game. Moreno will never be able to make some of the plays JQ made in that game
JQ is 14th in the most respectable mock
Moreno in 2nd rd
On here talking about JQ has no offensive skill. Lol go back and watch that st johns game. Moreno will never be able to make some of the plays JQ made in that game
JQ is 14th in the most respectable mock
Moreno in 2nd rd
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Moreno will be back and id say it’s the trolls that doesn’t want Momcilovic here. He’s such a good fit for our offense I’d take momcilovic over stokes.
I’m not either on the Gm level but MM versus JQ overall IMO MM has the higher upside. JQ is a freak athlete but he’s damaged goods with poor overall upside he can’t shoot from anywhere on the floor versus MM who can overall.JQ is a talented kid but I find it difficult to believe that he couldn’t have played at the end of last season. The sequence of events leading up to him sitting out is very suspicious. If I were an NBA GM I would consider that about him before I would take a chance on drafting him.
I would take Moreno over him if I were a GM, but I’m not and am not even close to being qualified to scout players lol
I selfishly want him back at UK, but anything that bites JQ in the *** is good for me.
I've never understood why these snowflakes have to announce that they're putting someone on ignore
Brandon Garrison is a better basketball player than JQ, so no surprise there!
JQ’s problem with his, “Fake it, until you make it” scheme, was he was trying to figure out where to hide for an additional year until he was draft eligible…
Play an extra year in high school, and potentially get exposed there, or risk two years in college, and play the injury card, instead of definitely getting exposed there!
JQ eventually had to get in the court, and when he did, it was quickly apparent, he only looked like a basketball player, instead of actually being a basketball player.
JQ’s problem with his, “Fake it, until you make it” scheme, was he was trying to figure out where to hide for an additional year until he was draft eligible…
Play an extra year in high school, and potentially get exposed there, or risk two years in college, and play the injury card, instead of definitely getting exposed there!
JQ eventually had to get in the court, and when he did, it was quickly apparent, he only looked like a basketball player, instead of actually being a basketball player.
Literally all of the people that do this for a living say he's a first round pick. Not sure why that's so hard to believe. Forgive me, but I'm going to believe them over some random guy on the Rafters that thinks he knows more than people that are paid to do this. At least one playoff team is having him do workouts for heaven's sake. They don't do that for 2nd round guys that might not even get drafted. It's okay to be wrong. It isn't the end of the world. It happens sometimes to all of us. That being said, I think he will be back unless he's a lottery pick, and I don't see him being a lottery pick unless he REALLY surprises people in workouts. Don't see that happening though.
BG better, haha, let’s not get too carried away, though I believe JQ is brutally overrated, he’s an excellent athlete, he has a minimum post game, can’t score on mid-long range jump shots, like many NBA bigs, KAT ex, and he’s horrendous at shooting FTs.
Message Board Geniuses nomination?
What nonsense. I’ve seen ONE …only one …of the many mock drafts out there that list him as a first rounder. That represents just one guy’s opinion. There are other mocks that don’t include his name at all.
So how are you “literally all” from that? Please explain.
Moreno will not be a first round pick this year. Maybe next year or in two years.
Jq looked good against Saint johns. I remember making a AD comparison post after that game
. That's the only thing that makes me think he did reinjure or something. He wasn't the same after that game.This will be a learning experience for Moreno. Hopefully the NBA will tell him what to improve upon and he will come back to school. I can't see as a first round pick this year myself.
He will get paid this year at UK and if he does improve will be a top ten pick in 27.
He will never be a Top 10 pick. That's not how the NBA works.
JQ is a project player at the NBA level. He's coming off a knee injury and hasn't been playing in actual games for a while. Drafting him in the lottery is risky. He's probably gonna slip down to a team that doesn't have an immediate need but is willing to try to develop him.
He’s never gonna be a top 10 pick, and his draft stock could also easily fall if he comes back for another season …especially if he gets injured.
The reason why his projected draft spot has dramatically risen in the last month is because of the unusual number of draftable bigs choosing to stay in school this year (see Haugh, Condon, Ngonba, Bidunga, Krivas, etc.). There simply aren’t that many decent center prospects in this year’s draft. Which has raised Moreno’s projected spot way up without him having to do a damn thing.
There’s no guarantee things are gonna break that way for him next year. In fact, they probably won’t. Who knows, this year might end up being the best chance he gets to go first round.
You are spot on. That was the best defense I had seen from a big man since AD. There is no way a player can go from looking so amazing in a game and looking so average the next game. He was dealling with an issue after the St. Johns game. People who say he had to hide to keep from being exposed are overlooking the fact that he played 24 games at AZ State and was a projected lottery pick based on that play. Even with some offensive limitations he is a tremendouse player when he is healthy. I won't argue wether he could have returned to play later in the season or not, but JQ is an outstanding player when it comes to defense, rebounding and shot blocking.Jq looked good against Saint johns. I remember making a AD comparison post after that game
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So you agree with me that he will withdraw from the draft? I hope you realize that every player that goes in the 2nd round was a possible first round draft pick.
I've never said it was impossible for MM to go late in the first round; I've said 2nd round was more likely so it's almost a certainty that he withdraws.
We won't know if he would have gone towards the first round when he withdraws and he will withdraw unless somebody in the first round gives him a guarantee. I might turn out to be wrong but, since it's a prediction of the future, I'm damned sure not wrong yet.
Because I like for people like you to KNOW they are not welcome to enter my home via my computer screen or any other way.
Also, it's a way to get in the last word. Like now.
Also, it's funny when they go sign up for a new anon account and quote themself to try to send you a message. Bye.
We need him. Lets just hope he stays. There are benefits both ways for him, but for us, we only benefit one way- him returning.
Jesus. Your ability to understand basketball is impressive really.
The entire season was awful because we didn't have a pg that could get us in offense. We started a horrendous 2g that couldn't dribble a basketball in Chandler. Anything we got was off a lucky spot up shot. I would almost bet you were huge Chandler fan because he made 2 3s a game lol
It's amazing how bad JQ is ,with a serious knee injury and will still be taken lottery or slightly lower
Maybe... He's very slow and extremely soft. Just like jasper Johnson, I can't believe neither of those kids put in work in the weight room .