The root cause of all those issues comes back to coaching.
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Rutgers doesn’t win enough because most of you don’t donate enough
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Wow, society is pissing away much more money than I thought. Thanks for enlightening me/us! All in the ultimate pursuit of banner raising and chest thumping by fans. It's getting more and more pathetic.
You speak of athletic talent. I speak of coaching ineptitude.
If the coach had talent, he would coach better. If your talent is challenged to rush the passer, block and tackle well, the coach will appear inept.
We gave up close to 40 sacks and only notched roughly 10 sacks. This is the biggest issue that needs to be resolved and I’m not sure we resolved it.
Which is the point. He can’t recruit this level of lineman anymore due to lack of funds. Kids are choosing the bag.
Why didn't he coach better when the BE was gutted and he had more talent and money than everyone else?
The things that make Schiano a great builder are also the things that make him a poor coach once it's built. He's too beholden to his minutia. He's more focused on the RB carrying the ball high and tight after the whistle blows than he is making sure his defense is lined up properly.
No it doesn’t, because a coach can’t make chicken salad from chicken ****, which is your expectation.
He’s got to have the raw material to succeed.
But he never succeeded when he had the best chickens. He's never won any title in his life. He's a poor football coach.
So now these players are chicken ****? Monongai? Raymond? Duff? Pierce? Kaliakmanis? Powell? Djabone? That seems like a fair amount of talent. Perhaps the coaches turned chicken salad into chicken ****.
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We had one shining moment in 2006, and didn’t get it done. That is really the only team that had a chance to beat anyone in the Big Ten. Every other team was flawed.
The 2007 and 2008 teams underachieved mightily.
I'm talking about when everyone who was good left the BE. We poured money into the football program prior to that. When BCU, Miami, Syracuse, VT all left and were replaced by schools like Cincy, Rutgers was spending more than every school on football. Schiano still didn't get it done. Cincinnati fresh out of some joker conference was eating his lunch . Why? Because he's not a good football coach. We have the receipts at this point. Schiano could have the best field house and most NIL and he'd still lose to Big Ten teams. All rivers flow back to the same poor coaching ocean. Nothing will change that.
Those teams were flawed alright. And the flaw was the HC.
Tens of Millions ??
Shi pays $11 million for 6 years. [The FAU Owls, Houston Cougars, UCF Knights, ASU, Arizona State, etc. Football Teams get more Stadium Naming Dollars annually than RU}. Even Akron Football Stadium gets as much in $$ naming Rights as Rutgers.
Jersey Mikes pays $28 million for the next 20 years.
The annual revenue is peanuts compared to other programs .
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I'm sorry Al, did a Rutgers player make the decision to call a timeout against Illinois or did the coaches? When we were throttling the ball down our opponents throat (forget who it was) with the run game, was it the players who directed the shift to a pass happy offense and we lost the game? When the opposing team makes halftime adjustments that completely turn the tide of the game, and Rutgers counters with nothing, is that the players? When our defensive players are 10 yards out of position, whose fault is that? Should I continue?
Yes, tens of millions.
SHI pays more than $11 million for the next 6 years and the Jersey Mike's contract does not extend for the next 20 years.
Here are the numbers, shown in the screenshots below. Jersey Mike's $28,099,123. SHI $15,925,000 plus $4,600,000.
$28,099,123 + $15,295,000 + $4,600,000 = $47,994,123
Show TKR posters how "The FAU Owls, Houston Cougars, UCF Knights, ASU, Arizona State, etc. Football Teams get more Stadium Dollars annually than RU".
Show "Akron Football Stadium gets as much in $$ naming Rights as Rutgers."
Peanuts is right but Keli is righting the ship. She’s having real discussions with dream sponsorship deals. Hopefully they get pushed across the line. Don’t forget, B1G teams will soon have advertising on uniforms.
One correction. It wasn’t coaches who called that idiotic timeout. It was one coach. Him deflecting from that like it was no big deal had me losing a lot of respect. He talks about ownership a lot, but he didn’t have the balls to do what he preaches when he needed to most.
Unfortunately this Koko guy loves to misrepresent things because clearly Rutgers isn't getting tens of millions annually so he shifts what he saying to fit his need because on an annual basis it's not much compared to the deals other conference members have with corporations.
Schiano made a mistake in that game and he may continue to make mistakes. It’s part of the game. What you conveniently overlook is that the defense got lit up, giving up 182 yards on the ground and 249 yards through the air. Had we had kids on the roster able to replace Powell, Toure, Lewis, and Baily we likely win that game.
Here is what Rutgers fans forget about the Illinois game. Illinois receiver was surrounded by five Rutgers defenders and ran untouched to the end zone. This was Harasymiak's defense, not Robb's.
How is posting images from the naming rights contracts "misrepresenting things"? Instead, my post confirms facts.
Let's see if the poster I responded to produces a response.
The SHI deal is a lot compared to other conference members because most get zero from naming rights to their football stadiums.
The Indiana football naming rights deal is similar to Rutgers in annual payments.
Because as usual you either (i) didn't understand the context of comment or (ii) purposefully changed it to move your agenda forward.
Claiming Rutgers receives tens of millions without stating the time period is misleading as well as not showing what Ohio St., Michigan and others receive from corporate deals.
It is well known that compared to many of their conference peers, Rutgers receives a small amount of corporate money. If they were so flush with corporate monies as you're trying to make people believe their deficits would be significantly smaller.
The comment wasn't "corporate deals".
The comment you jumped on was "fan/corporate/conference payout money".
Would you say Rutgers "fan/corporate/conference payout money" is comparable to OSU and Michigan?
Rutgers gets more in stadium naming rights than Michigan!
Throw a parade. Clearly all is we'll in the world.......
Thank g-d for Keli. The previous AD was a disaster. When Football programs like Kentucky can get $2 million a year and Colorado St. gets more than us. Looking for Keli to deliver. We are in the biggest market in the B1G… we need to leverage it!!!
How do I conveniently overlook the defense when I mentioned the defense? LOL!!! Mistakes are one thing Al. Being a subpar game day coach is his forte though. Poor game planning, poor in game adjustments and piss poor defense the past couple of years. The amount of blown coverages and players out of position on defense come from game prep and coaching. Competent high school teams play better positional ball. I'm done with this btw. The weekend beckons.
It’s amazing how some clowns continue to make excuses for our subpar HC.
Not likely. The timeout allowed them to see their kicker had zero chance of making it. But they were trying. Dumb call by Bielema only to be outdone but Schianos idiocy.
He often gets out coached by nearly everyone. Even cupcake programs who have enough coaching acumen to keep it closer than it should be because of Schiano.
17 years of the same Bull
only because he’s “one of their own” Would’ve been fired both times for incompetence if he wasn’t from Jersey.
When Greg V2 was hired, I remember posting how I thought the hire was the best we could do but knew it was not a great long term solution. Rutgers HC was not an attractive position, didnt pay boatloads of money (comparatively speaking), and he needed a job. Rutgers football needed structure and a solid foundation which Greg is good at providing. His gameday coaching was always mediocre/questionable and that hasn't changed in my opinion. I posted he could get us near the hump but not over it. Nothing has changed in the time he is here which has changed my mind, other than he has fluffed up a now bloated staff producing less than I expected/hoped for since the time of his arrival.
Stop it with the iron-clad logic and reasoned arguments. There’s no place for that in a fan forum.
You conveniently forget, with your selective memory, that the first thing Greg said he needed to recruit better was better infrastructure, IE: a football fieldhouse. It was even written into the coaches contract.
Nothing has changed because the needed changes weren’t made. We are still with out a football fieldhouse and we haven’t achieved the necessary improvements in recruiting. That isn’t the head coaches fault. He told you what was needed , and it wasn’t provided, so that’s why we have to suffer through lackluster recruiting and ultimately results on the field.
The staff is bloated because it takes more effort to recruit the 3* out of NC, GA, and FL then it does the 3* from NJ.
He gets outcoached because his plays don’t work because we are weak in the trenches. We gave up close to 40 sacks last year while notching close to 11. That tells the story of last season. You need studs in the trenches and we don’t have them. So we have to put up with lackluster results.
17 years of the same Bull
No. If enough people pony up, we’ll be successful. If not, we’ll just have to continue to accept lackluster results.