UCLA will be good in a few years and all we will hear is that they spent $175 million on Nil, not about how the new right coach can invigorate a program
Rutgers doesn’t win enough because most of you don’t donate enough
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Keep us updated on the Wilmington Club, we are moving to SouthportWe're relocating to Leland. There's a place called Pizzettas, which actually has pizza that doesn't suck. we are there Thursday & I was pleasantly surprised
On Saturday we got to have dinner with 2 sets of Rutgers friends who live in the area. We're starting the Wilmington Area Rutgers Club.
When are you moving? Our plan is to be there in Feb/March next year. Southport is such a cute little Hallmark town!
There is at least one other board poster who lives in Leland ...his handle escapes me at the moment.
Our house was done in Feb, NJ house will go up for sale in June/July then it’s Sayonara
In recent years, we could count on beating MSU.
MSU just received $401M in NIL and other support. It is going to be very difficult for us to compete going forward without adequate support.
Greg and Dawn Williams Make Historic $401M Commitment to Michigan State University and Spartan Athletics - Michigan State University Athletics
EAST LANSING, Mich. — Michigan State University today announced a historic $401 million commitment from Greg and Dawn Williams. Made through the university's...
Facts never were your strength. I’ve played plenty of sports, and currently play 1st base for our softball team in a Central Park Church League.
Big Ten alumni have started a softball league with Big Ten alumni teams. Michigan has two teams. Rutgers doesn’t even have one. Someone asked me to start a team for Rutgers, but i declined. Just mentioning this in case anyone is interested..
What does he lack that everyone else has, MONEY! It’s not a coincidence that he recruited very well at Miami, recruited very well at OSU, and his recruiting at Rutgers has been towards the bottom of the Big Ten in recent years.
The teams he beats are the teams who have similar support to us. I’d bet there is a direct relationship between CAPEX spend + OPEX spend + NIL, and recruiting results.
Cristobal is the exact same type of coach and is succeeding because of the financial support.
Like I said, at any real level. Church softball league lol. Go get em Shohei.
You haven’t played Big Ten Football so you can’t relate. Big Ten Football attracts the most money and best players by far. So much for your real level.
I played plenty of high school sports like most people but that isn’t relevant, because it’s not going to fix our lack of competitiveness.
The only thing that’s going to fix the competitive gap between Rutgers and Nebraska/Wisconsin/Iowa/Penn State is money.
Because at our present level, of support, it’s going to be tough to be more than mediocre.
Did you see your MD bro Espenshade shot a 4 Under 66 in the final round of the B1G Championship, leading a charge by RU that leapfrogged 4 teams and finished 4th. That's their best finish since joining the B1G.
He finished 9th, the best finish by a RU mens golfer since 2019.
If Chesney suceeds at UCLA at anywhere near the level that Cignetti has at Indiana, serious heat is going to be applied to the seats of a lot of underachieving coaches.
It's amazing how fast the Indiana narrative changed. It went from "Mr I win Google me is going to get smashed in the B1G" to "They're undefeated, but they haven't played anybody" to "They were a fluke, they lost to Ohio State and Notre Dame because they don't belong on the same field with those teams. Alabama should have made the playoffs instead" to "The only reason they were undefeated and won a National Championship is because a billionaire shoveled loads of cash into the program so that they could buy a team of All Americans" Can't make this stuff up.
If that's what it takes to field a competitive team then I'm all for RU sucking at sports for the foreseeable future. If we are following professional sports, I will follow professional sports where salaries and other player revenue is coming from endorsements, ticket sales, and tv contracts not the average fan's pockets or from some sugar daddy.In recent years, we could count on beating MSU.
MSU just received $401M in NIL and other support. It is going to be very difficult for us to compete going forward without adequate support.
Greg and Dawn Williams Make Historic $401M Commitment to Michigan State University and Spartan Athletics - Michigan State University Athletics
EAST LANSING, Mich. — Michigan State University today announced a historic $401 million commitment from Greg and Dawn Williams. Made through the university's...msuspartans.com
The likelihood of IU going undefeated again is very high. Their toughest game, a suspect OSU team is at home, a pathetic OOC schedule schiano would approve of and a rebuilding Michigan on the road. (if OSU goes to Austin and gets smoked, then IU may have an even easier road to the #1 seed)
My daughter recently took a consulting job in Wilmington. She was thinking of moving there but has decided to stay in Philly for now.
The irony is People blame the players and NIL.
If there was no NIL, we would be right back to:
"Rutgers doesn't win enough because fans won't donate to the AD enough. We need a fieldhouse. Increased recruiting budget. Better weight room. Upgrade locker room."
Find and replace all of Al's posts with "NIL" with "fieldhouse".
Unfortunately, its the foundation of college atheltics - funding comes from average fans pockets.
Which seemed to be fine when college atheltics was actually "small time" 40 years ago.
But now that conferences have $1b media contracts and schools receive $75m in conference payouts?
Hard to blame the fans for not covering all the ever increasing AD spending.
I would think that the school's share of these billion dollar media contract payouts would alleviate the need to soak fans for money.
Situational awareness, ability to adjust to game plans, an ability to produce a consistent and competent offense, and players who know where to play on the field?
Al is right in one way, the schools that win big have fan/corporate/conference payout money. We have conference money, but that is about it. The corporate side and fan engagement is getting better. We simply don't have the right coach though.
You would think, right?
Imagine going back 20 years when we were getting a couple million and saying "Rutgers will be receiving over $75m per year just in conference revenue. But it still won't be enough and fans will need to subsidize a fieldhouse and everything else still."
Rutgers does get corporate money.
Rutgers gets tens of millions of corporate dollars from SHI and Jersey Mike's for naming rights. Michigan won the national basketball championship without a naming rights deal to its arena, and Indiana won the national football championship without a naming rights deal to its stadium. Though Indiana has since sold naming rights to its football field.
Rutgers just did a naming rights deal for the soccer stadium too. Michigan and Indiana don't have naming rights deals for their soccer stadiums.
Plus, the information posted on TKR suggests companies are stepping up to fund Rutgers football and basketball NIL, though visibility on this type of funding is less clear than the naming rights.
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Dude, he played Division I college athletics. He knows 100x more about anything and everything related to college athletics than you know, ever have known or ever will know. Trust me….
….talk about “barking up the wrong tree” lol!
He's the back up first baseperson in the church league. Put some respect on his name!
My league has about 2 dozen guys who played college baseball, as well as a dozen or so girls D1 softball, so when I'm on the mound I'm in fear for my head - and my balls - quite often lolol!!!
But hey at least he's out there, honestly, the # of guys I know who do absolutely nothing athletically once they're over 35 is absolutely stunning. Good for you Al!!!
Keli is doing yeoman's work on the corporate front.
Michigan has crazy sponsorship deals. See Nike to the tune of ~$175MM. See their "Athletic Campus" Ross paid $100MM to name. They don't monetize the Big House because of the deals they have generate so much revenue.
Yeah on Zinn. In an interview out today, Pike was asked about the portal and he answered. "Pike said our number one portal acquisition was Keli Zinn."
Nobody seems to knows how much Rutgers is making on its BSN apparel deal. I learned several weeks ago from a good source this deal still has not been signed 16 months after it was announced, which seems unusual. Doubt Rutgers gets a 9-figure whale like Ross or Phil Knight or T Boone. Maybe the next football coach can find one to write a big check for the indoor practice palace.
That deal was signed, which is why we are in it. Keli did what she could for athletes to get higher end Nike apparel. It was a terrible thing prior to her arrival. The more that comes out about Hobbs, the worse his tenure looks. Keli has great relationships with Nike as she was the point person at LSU. Obviously our teams need to win, but as fans, buying Nike apparel will help out a lot too when it comes time to negotiate our next contract.
Right. That is why he has yet to add any value in a college football discussion. I doubt he can even name anyone on the football team. His hate for Schiano, because Mulcahy decided to fully fund football, and give lacrosse crumbs, which was the right decision, colors his comments. Enjoy his posts, I guess.
We get crumbs because we don’t buy apparel like other fanbases. Simply don’t have enough negotiating power.
LOL, this is not the flex you think it is.
Syracuse built a $100M Fieldhouse, despite not being in the Big Ten. Indiana spent $86M on football facilities improvements, and they are about to spend more. Penn State has spent a ton of money to improve football facilities. Maryland recently built a brand new facility. USC and Miami have plans on the drawing board, and are actively fundraising.
College football success is expensive, because it is an arms race, funded by wealthy donors.
And what’s the root cause for all these issues? Money. If we had kids who could block, tackle, and run, no one is complaining about these issues, which start with recruiting. USC spent $12-$13M on their freshmen class alone.
Where is the Anthony Davis or the Jeremy Zuttah type linemen that will spend years in the NFL? Not here. They took the bag and went to other schools. Michigan spent $4M on their freshmen QB last year.
We are not playing on a level field.
Rutgers has never been sustainably successful because money has always been an issue.
You either spend money to be competitive or you accept adverse results. The Athletic Department is finally spending what it takes to be successful, but our investments in capital infrastructure and NIL are severely lacking, putting us at a big disadvantage on the recruiting trail.
Most funding comes from high rollers.
The NFL gets roughly 68% of its revenue from media sources. 17% from ticket sales.
College gets 35% of revenue from media, 24% of its revenue from donor contributions and 17% of its revenue from ticket sales.
It’s a different revenue model altogether, significantly dependent on donations. Rutgers is lacking in donor contributions which is why we struggle. Other schools get more in donations than ticket sales.
Everyone has a role to play.
The average fan is a consumer who is here to be entertained. Rutgers needs builders to invest in this football program so we can realize our potential.
Once the program/product is fully built, then it will be easier to attract corporate sponsorships. Honda and Ford spend significantly on Ohio State and Texas, for example.
Just wondering why you say OSU is suspect? I'm assuming because of all the guys that left for the draft?
I think he means the coaching is suspect. OSU has more talent than anyone else, but Indiana clearly has the best coach, and will always have to be reckoned with.