Confirmation of football underachievement?
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I will never understand your special kind of bias and stupidity but give you credit for your complete devotion to it.
Paterno should have retired 10 to 15 years sooner for sure. However, he was the victim of the worst scapegoating jobs I have witnessed in my soon to be 74 years living on this planet courtesy in large part to the cover your a**es BOT.
I see the “post about Franklin” alert went off in Marshall’s house this morning around 6:45. 6 consecutive posts in less than 20 minutes is impressive work!
Confirmed that I dislike Franklin and will dump on him when the opportunities present themselves? You betcha'.
Joe was a victim of his own stupidity.
Kids got raped in the locker room. Someone was going to take a hit. Anyone who didn't see that coming was blind. Joe needed to keep his mouth shut and hire a good PR firm and lawyer from NYC. Joe was holding press Conferences on his front lawn and letting that dipchit scott do a lot of talking.
I think the Paterno camp's message should have been that Joe would always support any victim.or witness of any crime to go to the actual police. And no comment from.anyone named paterno.
I didn’t see anyone note that VT’s record is 9-26. Franklin will fit right in.
That is accurate. If he’s referring to what McQuery saw, that was one of the charges dismissed.
There's no way you can make this remark in good faith. We COULD be better in EVERY way. We COULD be worse in EVERY way. Or some mixture of better and worse in various ways, and where the scale tips, no one knows. It's a complete unknown at this point.
We know, we know ... but you deserve better (and it's "insane" to suggest otherwise, as you explicitly noted). Of course you do. Now take your booze-infused lolli and sit in the corner while the adults speak, Veruca.
I agree with your first paragraph here. No idea what the second paragraph is.
Let’s try this: It will be hard for Matt Campbell to do worse than having the #2 team in the nation and losing to a team that was winless and barely had a coaching staff when we played them.
Let me see. 68 teams are profiled. PSU ranks number 27, ISU ranks number 37. So out of the 68 teams, there is only a spread of 10. If we look at winning percentage, PSU is at 16/47 = 34.0%, ISU is at 14/48 = 29.2%. So given the relative perception and actual historical success of the two teams; ISU has over performed during the CFB playoff era and PSU has grossly underperformed. I ask you the same question you asked me. What REALLY good stuff have you been smoking?
For the record, I don't predict greater success under HC Cambell. I am willing to wait and see what happens. Do count me in as somebody who is glad the BGJ is no longer the head coach. It has less to do with his record and more about the way he communicated to the interested public. It was a manner that over time just turned me off and I am glad that I no longer have to listen to him speak about the PSU program.
"It will be hard for Matt Campbell to do worse than having the #2 team in the nation ..."
When your statement starts out like this, you should probably rethink the remainder of your post before you write it. Yes, last year was a complete poop-show, made much, much worse by the fact Franklin had created such incredibly high expectations ... you know ... by putting together an incredibly competitive and successful football program.
And made even worse, still, by a midseason firing of the head coach, when there was absolutely no real, effective plan in place to replace him. We have NO idea what would have happened, had Franklin been retained until the end of the year, at least ... he could have rallied the team to win out and at least regain some semblance of pride and optimism heading into next year, with a stud recruiting class (and, perhaps, transfers) coming in ... we could have spiraled out of control into something that was much worse than even what ended up happening. Instead, we were almost coachless. We lucked into this guy, and if you judged his teams by the same criteria you subjected Franklin to, he doesn't come out well. Just about every time ISU looked good during a season, they ended up falling apart later on.
I posted this before, but: In 2017, Campbell's squad beat a then 3rd-ranked squad, and a then 4th-ranked squad in the same season. Woohoo! Yeah, except they lost 4 games to unranked squads, and another game to a ranked squad, and ended up 7-5 and unranked. Multiple times (3) his teams had preseason top 25 hype and ended up unranked. They had a 3 year period where they were .500 overall, with 2 7-5 regular season records sandwiching a 4-8 campaign.
But, yeah ... we won't have to suffer through being preseason #2. So we got that going for us, which is nice.
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As for the 2nd paragraph, that poster has been attacking Franklin for a long time ... even while we were one bone-headed play away from playing for the Natty. He was wishing for the guy's downfall, and has taken great pleasure in being a catty biznatch ever since. So he can go screw.
I liked Franklin. At the end of the year last year it may (or may not) have been time for him to go ... if he had lost the team and recruits ... you seriously, seriously consider it. But there's no reason to take great joy in the guy getting canned, since you've been after him like a jealous ex-girlfriend for years.
I like Campbell, too. And if anyone acts this way toward Campbell, I'll call them out on it, as well. I'm tired of the "we deserve better" non-fan fans.
That long. I’m not reading it. But if it’s any sort of a defense of Franklin last season it’s pointless. He deserved to be fired when he was. Not because of his career at Penn State, but because he didn’t show up last year.
The same amount of time it would have taken you to quickly read the post and realize there was no defense of last year, is the same amount of time you took to make a hypothetical rebuttal of an argument that was never made.
Sorry, what I read in your post is about 25 years of excuses and "hope" for the future. Just saying "we're better" because of a new coach who hasn't yet coached 1 game and was 50-40 in conference at his last stop isn't evidence.
The landscape of "college football" has changed radically and OSU, UM, Oregon, Indiana, USC are strong rivals (just in the Big Ten Conference alone) that PSU must contend with to reach "excellence at the highest level." After 25 years or so, I'm simply saying you are "what your record says you are." PSU fans should, IMO, enjoy the 10 and 11 win seasons. They occur often. More often than 85% of the competition. Instead, we pretend "we are better."
Dumbest post so far this year.
shows up to stalk in record time
Like several posters who frequent here, I had a brief career coaching high school football. If you are curious, message me and I'll give you the information you need to evaluate my "record" for yourself. Suffice it to say that I spent 16 years coaching high school football (the final 13 as a head coach) before going into athletic administration. I'm not sure why that is pertinent to you except that it does give me some appreciation of how skilled and talented a Division One HFC must be to secure one of about 138 jobs in the entire nation....now that doesn't rival the knowledge and experience it takes to be a message board fan and critic, I did learn in my experience that players, coaches and officials are not perfect. Only fans are omnipotent and omniscient. LOL
Joe followed university policy. How many bridges have you purchased in your lifetime?
He also followed the law. This is lost on idiots.
Considering everything....available area talent, money for coaching, facilities, depth of roster, NIL, i think CMC did well!
