ABS challenges coming to SEC Tournament
- Thread starter MStateDawg
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I suspect anyone that wishes to remain an umpire, will up their game.
Its time to just go to a digital strike zone.
The umpiring behind the plate has only gotten worse over the last few years.
The velocity, ball movement and the catchers ability to frame has really made them look incompetent.
The umpiring behind the plate has only gotten worse over the last few years.
The velocity, ball movement and the catchers ability to frame has really made them look incompetent.
It’s nearly an impossible job. The MLB umpires really do an amazing job on how consistent they are and good they are. You still have misses but they are typically small misses.
The college umpires are atrocious though. Every game, a pitch in the damn batters box will be call a strike…. Probably multiple times. I get it, there are only so many people capable of calling balls and strikes with upper 90’s pitching but they got to be better in college.
It’s ridiculous how bad college umpires are. We could have 30 challenges & it might not be enough. Funniest thing to me Sunday was early when Ace drew ball 4, out his bat down & the umpire called it a strike next pitch was close but probably a strike 3, pitcher walks off the mound & he calls it a ball.
and yes about mlb umpires. Saw a graphic a couple of weeks ago. And umpire called a perfect game except for 2 pitches that might have been a millimeter wrong.
3 chances per game to correct the 50+ 17ups we endured in Austin.
4 games a day played in one stadium now featuring ABS challenges might make Hoover after dark go looooooong after dark.
Heck. Most games even without it are lasting close to 4 hours. If you’re going to play 4 games in 1 day, better start at 8am if you want to be done by midnight, maybe.
In MLB, a team has \ challenges, not certain how many, probably three,... the challenge will be lost if the challenge is not correct.
It must be made immediately by, the pitcher, catcher or batter.
I'm sure you know this, but , it's relatively new to me.
I like their system, the game does not really get interrupted.
they should give you unlimited challenges up to two misses
what I expect to practically happen is for umps to tighten the zone and force people to challenge balls that are strikes than the reverse. which is fine because half of them get off to making a show of calling a strike on ball four when the hitter is halfway to first
what I expect to practically happen is for umps to tighten the zone and force people to challenge balls that are strikes than the reverse. which is fine because half of them get off to making a show of calling a strike on ball four when the hitter is halfway to first
With only having 3 in your pocket, whether you get it right or not, is going to make coaches be really strict on when they challenge. It will only be used for strike 3 and ball 4 calls, and will only be challenged during critical points in the game. I doubt you see many challenges before the 5th-6th inning. the one exception to this is if you have an ump with an obvious agenda, you could see a coach challenge early to let the ump know he's on to him, but the chances of this during the SEC tourney are slim. This particular trial run should not slow the game down at all, but future runs of this challenge system could.
Many umpires are generally like bad cops. Their egos take control of them and they consider themselves to be unaccountable to us mere mortals.
Why are they lasting 4 hours? MLB has gotten their games down to almost 2.5 hours.
This is why the system should be used to call ALL the balls and strikes. It'll speed up the game. No reviews. No catchers consistently dragging every pitch back into the strike zone no matter how far off they are. Reducing the impact of an ump with an agenda... This decision should be a no brainer.
You are probably talking college but pro umps are elite. One thing I like about ABS in pros is you actually get to see how good those umps really are. Even the ones that get overturned are pretty close. Now, I'm basing it on this season which is still early but I'm amazed at how accurate these guys really are in MLB.
If you're right, you don't lose them. If you stay right you end the game with 3 left.
I have a few theories. Too many time outs to go talk to a coach. Lot of mound visits and mid inning pitching changes. And too many pitchers who can’t throw strikes. In the governors cup I think we had 160 pitches through 6 innings. That’s 10 innings worth of pitches in only 6 innings. And we somehow only gave up 3 runs.
I didn’t read the original and was going off some comments. MLB lets you keep them if you don’t mess up. Glad they’re doing it the same way. I feel like there are going to be a ton overturned though may change ump behavior and could also see a lot of bad challenges
Yes MLB umpires do a really good job, because they are held to a high standard and no doubt get compensated for their quality.
But when I can sit on my couch and call a better game than most SEC umps, something has to change.
What gets me, like Sunday, the Ump was set up all the way inside looking directly down the batters box line. There is no way he could see the out side pitch catching the black, and it costed State in that 3rd inning, especially with Gleason. Then with the strike called with Ace, which dad gum you have 2 strikes...swing the dang bat if its remotely close, the ball traveled straight at him (the ump) and took a dive down out of the zone and inside. And he still missed it.
Hold them accountable....if they cannot have a better percentage of correctness...run them out of the league!
Just once I would like to see umpires and referees have to sit before the media after a game and have the questions asked, "so tell me, how did you blow that call so badly in that critical moment in the game?"
Saw a couple of weeks ago an mlb umpire only missed 2 ball-strike calls all game. Both by maybe a millimeter. And both overturned on ABS. So, after ABS a perfect game. Pretty impressive.
BA's and OBP's are much higher in college compared to MLB. All those base runners means longer games.
Great, now not only do we get to watch our guys take strike three after pounding their chest, but then we get to watch them challenge the pitch and lose.**
Agree, and 25 times to first isnt helping. The two disengagements at the MLB level definitely cuts down some of that nonsense. I get it that you want to keep a guy from getting too big of a lead, but those add up if you have traffic in a lot of innings.
I have stated here all pitches should be called with technology now. With that said, to change the game at this point of the season is. That is so unfair to all of a sudden use this technology for all involved.
That's a good point. Hadn't thought about that. However, I guess it's the best place for a trial stage of the system and it's all in one venue. For at least half of the teams playing, it's pointless, right?
I like how some major league catchers are now gaming the system by reverse framing the pitch. When it's called a strike they are pulling the ball out of the strike zone and getting batters to burn an appeal.
all of you saying that major league umps do a great job must not watch much major league baseball. There are whole youtube channels dedicated to how bad they are. Some are so bad that it would be better if they just flipped a coin for all balls and strikes calls that don't hit the ground or the batter.