Marcios Santos Stats for today’s game that Pope flew 16 hours to watch.

May 30, 2008
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one game. wow, so many dudes who have menstrual periods, overreacting to one game. in a league full of players better than college players. hate just to hate. might as well be the hate Kentucky site you let bandwagon fans run loose. only been a fan since 2009 type people.
Call them what they are. Twitter pric#s. This site has problems
 

Cats4321

All-Conference
Nov 18, 2025
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Maybe it was a bad game, but his stats overall didn’t look terribly elite.
It is so hard to judge these international guys. Obviously today is just one game, but it seems like it was likely against pretty weak competition. I know he's played decent competition when they participate in the Euro League, but his stats are even less impressive at that level. How it all translates to SEC caliber competition is very difficult for me to judge.
 
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20MRoster

All-Conference
Nov 16, 2018
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Not sure. I live in Wisconsin and draft kings isn’t available here. I have prize picks here. My buddy has draft kings. Think we got like 10k if they won. So we just split the bet. Prize picks is getting better but was horrible when it first came out. That’s the most money I ever dropped on a bet. Just a casual thing. Don’t bet every week.
Gotcha, thanks for this -- I was interested in comparing the odds last year vs the odds this year.

$10k on $500 is +2000 odds, which is a very reasonable number for a top 10 ish team. Obviously the team didn't live up to that, but that was the perception in the preseason. To give perspective, Houston and Arizona have +1900 odds RN, and they are tied for 7th in title odds.

This year, UKs odds are +6500. They are not among the top 25 favorites. It is really quite embarrassing. Kansas, with no roster + Stokes and Kinney, have +2500 odds. It just goes to show how much of a laughingstock the program has become, and that the people on here spewing that BS about this team being better than last year's are totally off
base and, frankly, full of ****.

Really appreciate that data point, thanks. And yeah, smart not to make that bet this time around!
 

Eagles_Ball_69

All-American
Dec 19, 2003
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Pope won't even try for guys like Juke Harris or Paul mcneil but goes after this terrible guy. Hard to understand.
KSR today…14 of the top 20 available players (would’ve liked an explanation on that…but Matt said it multiple times) VISITED Kentucky. Pope landed none of them.
 
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Eagles_Ball_69

All-American
Dec 19, 2003
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We really whining about a bench player who's to come here and be a bench player. Who's playing in the second most competitive league in the world. Go look at what TJ leaf is averaging in the euro league and he was pretty good as a freshman at UCLA.
He’s playing in the second division of the second most competitive league in the world. But, TBF, the G League is probably better at this point.
 
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Eagles_Ball_69

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Pope is our coach. I didn’t hire him nor like the way he coaches especially substitute patterns. BUT I am a diehard Ky fan & as long as he’s the coach I will support the players & the coaches against all comers. To hope for a season that’s a disaster is against my beliefs.
we are stuck with what we got - IT IS WHAT IT IS.
You can root for the team and not support the coach. The two don’t have to be done simultaneously.
 

Eagles_Ball_69

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Dec 19, 2003
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Santos can hit the 3 and is good in zoom actions and handoffs because of his size. He's also supposed to be a high bball-IQ player and this team sorely missed that last season. I actually like what he can provide for our guards and it should also help Moreno out because this guy is a better player than Brandon Garrison will ever be. I actually think this could be a strong signing despite his play today. The big question mark seems to be his ability to defend. Foul trouble is likely what hurt his effort today because it sounds like that's what happened when his output is poor in games before.
He averages over 6 fouls per 40. That’s an impressive stat.
 

*Fox2Monk*

Heisman
Jun 10, 2009
46,030
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Santos can hit the 3 and is good in zoom actions and handoffs because of his size. He's also supposed to be a high bball-IQ player and this team sorely missed that last season. I actually like what he can provide for our guards and it should also help Moreno out because this guy is a better player than Brandon Garrison will ever be. I actually think this could be a strong signing despite his play today. The big question mark seems to be his ability to defend. Foul trouble is likely what hurt his effort today because it sounds like that's what happened when his output is poor in games before.
Well sadly the bar to be better than Garrison isn’t that high usually. I still think BG could be a good player. Maybe Oats can finally unlock that, I wouldn’t be shocked.
 

20MRoster

All-Conference
Nov 16, 2018
1,282
2,533
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They are digging in and trying like all hell to convince people this roster is good. For our sake I hope they are right but that may extend this nightmare even longer. Sigh..😔
They're not right. Odds for UK are embarrassing right now. No sane person thinks this is a good roster.
 
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anot

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Mar 27, 2026
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Can somebody clear me up because Im so confused right now. How is Pope in Israel and also fishing with a five star recruit in the states? Does he have a clone?
 
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Bill_the_cat

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Nov 17, 2025
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I know fans are upset, but how upset do you think Pope is about missing all these players. About not being able to field a team worthy of tournament run?
 

Drogon

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Mar 14, 2017
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Well sadly the bar to be better than Garrison isn’t that high usually. I still think BG could be a good player. Maybe Oats can finally unlock that, I wouldn’t be shocked.

I agree with what you said. I stand by what I said about Santos' game. Whether he's good enough or not I don't know, but what he seems to be good at fits what Pope is trying to do. Unless something changes sounds like we're going to find out in the not so distant future.
 

20MRoster

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Nov 16, 2018
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I know fans are upset, but how upset do you think Pope is about missing all these players. About not being able to field a team worthy of tournament run?
He feels $5M a year. Commits grand larceny and sets up his family for generations. He's fine.
 

MichaelGray

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Jan 13, 2026
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We have ELITES right here with Milan and Juke yet we’re chasing this type of stuff. Heck Noah is probably better than the last 2 we added
Not that Morton is a stud, he's not, however, Noah couldn't hold Morton's jock strap on the court. Noah can't create his own shot, Morton can, go watch his tape, McBride can create also.
 
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MichaelGray

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It is so hard to judge these international guys. Obviously today is just one game, but it seems like it was likely against pretty weak competition. I know he's played decent competition when they participate in the Euro League, but his stats are even less impressive at that level. How it all translates to SEC caliber competition is very difficult for me to judge.
He shoots 40% from 3, can score on the inside, attacks the basket & can rebound. The podcast listened to says he plays 14 minutes per game so obviously his numbers would be higher if he played more.
 

The Ganner

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Nov 21, 2009
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They are digging in and trying like all hell to convince people this roster is good. For our sake I hope they are right but that may extend this nightmare even longer. Sigh..😔
I just want to know who it is you guys are seeing that you keep saying stuff like this about. I've seen like, 2 or 3 posters sunshine pumping out of everyone on the board. Is that worth all the obsession you guys have over it? Or is it just that you interpret those of us saying "we're going to be mediocre, not terrible" as sunshine pumpers?
 

AJG-15

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Apr 8, 2024
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Márcio Henrique da Costa Santos is a brazilian born 23 years old that will be 24 in November. That‘s important to know because of the potential new ncaa eligibility rule. Uk will need to get him cleared asap.

he played professional basketball for 8 years(6 in Brazil , one in Germany and one Israel). It will be easier for him to adjust to life in USA, ncaa and sec basketball because he already moved twice away from his culture.

he is not going to be rattled by the away atmosphere in sec, which it feel like a walk in the park vs the atmosphere in eurolegue or Israel.

he went tried for nba in 2023 , went undrafted and played 5 games for summer for the hawks.

baskeball wise, at 6’8 he is rather undersized for center , but has decent athletic abilities. Skills wise he has a little but of everything, can pass, shoot some, decent footwork in the paint, and decent rebounding and blocking shots.
At this point , he is a more rounded player because of experience than MM .

here some video s from brazil time:




from Germany where the team played a lot of zoom action, which probably caught MP eye.



from Maccabi in Israel:



he is better that Jela and he will integrate better in Pope offense . A little undersized but decent athletic abilities. i am hoping he can be a poor man Broome provided to Auburn or Boozer for Duke on MP offense.
 

CrimsonCats_rivals

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Mar 22, 2022
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Which begs the questions why is he only good enough to play 14 minutes a game?
I’m not going to pretend to be an expert scout who knows all about him, but his stats show that he fouls at a crazy rate. Like so high that he would average fouling out if he got a full game’s worth of minutes. That probably has something to do with it.
 

megablue

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Oct 2, 2012
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Does a 23 year-old pro player have any interest in sitting in a college classroom ?? I've often wondered about the academic component with some of the older international players.
 

*Fox2Monk*

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I just want to know who it is you guys are seeing that you keep saying stuff like this about. I've seen like, 2 or 3 posters sunshine pumping out of everyone on the board. Is that worth all the obsession you guys have over it? Or is it just that you interpret those of us saying "we're going to be mediocre, not terrible" as sunshine pumpers?
There aren’t many left. Probably about 10-12 usual people who still support pretty hardcore. A few stragglers come out here and there.
 
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