If not, last night should have been the last time we play that game in Pearl. Stadium is crap, it’s expensive, and broadcast was horrific. Give the trophy to the winner of regular season series. Those types of games are bygones of the days gone bye
Do we get a financial (NIL) incentive to play in Pearl?
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My point of view it allows boosters, alumni and fans an opportunity to see them play. A lot of kids and future prospects in the Jackson area. I think it's worth the cost of gas and labor for the drivers to play the game in Perl.
********. Keep playing in Pearl. The stadium is literally the Arkansas stadium which everyone raves about. I mean that. It is the same stadium.
Fix the turf, play the game. We're about to go play three more games on turf this weekend.
There are always issues with streaming at third party sites. They fixed them before the first inning was over.
I knew this would bring the Jackson haters like Charlie Winfield out. I'm sorry we can't play the game in Nanih Waiya.
Fix the turf, play the game. We're about to go play three more games on turf this weekend.
There are always issues with streaming at third party sites. They fixed them before the first inning was over.
I knew this would bring the Jackson haters like Charlie Winfield out. I'm sorry we can't play the game in Nanih Waiya.
Tend to agree. It's a shame that the Jackson Metro can't support this sort of thing or a MiLB team. Best just do away with it. Same with playing basketball at the Coliseum. If folks want college sports, drive to the college towns.
If we're going to do it, do it in Biloxi. But that doesn't make a whole lot of sense as far as Governor's Cup. Just end it.
If we're going to do it, do it in Biloxi. But that doesn't make a whole lot of sense as far as Governor's Cup. Just end it.
Jackson Metro very much supports this type of thing. It sells out every year even with absurd ticket prices. MiLB is a different but its Hard to find any team getting tons of support that’s not in a large metro area.
Yep, the ticket prices are insane. Yet we routinely have 6k show up.
That game and whatever the Mudcats or sharks or whatever is doing, isn't going to maintain the stadium long term. Need MiLB dollars to do that. That's what I meant. I agree folks do show up for that game, and wish we had the right setup to do it. They are trying to make it into a concert venue I believe, that's bush league for MSU and Ole Miss to be playing there.
Shame we did the Pearl thing to begin with. Needed to be downtown or somewhere where organic attractions should grow. Oh well toothpaste and tube.
If we don't do more Biloxi midweek, we'd be better off playing in Memphis, Birmingham or Huntsville as far as prospects go. Kids in the Jackson area are already driving to Starkville anyway, and all of them already lean MSU/Ole Miss and sometimes even LSU.
ETA: As far as the GC game itself, play it in Starkville and Oxford.
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You guys just invent stuff to complain about. There was a nice crowd at the stadium last night, even with every meteorologist blasting all over social media that Armageddon was coming.
For those of us that can’t get to Starkville often during baseball season, it’s nice to have that game, even if it is overpriced.
For those of us that can’t get to Starkville often during baseball season, it’s nice to have that game, even if it is overpriced.
Slim flashed you a lil' skin last night. You didn't appreciate it?
The stadium is fine. Its actually pretty nice. The field is crap since the Braves left and professional groundskeepers left with them.
I’ve attended every year that it has been in Pearl & have attended a couple at smith wills during Seth Smith’s and Stephen Head’s time at Ole Miss (Hillcrest alums, the only reason why I pulled for them.).
Last night did surprise me with the attendance, it felt like Mississippi state fans outnumbered Ole Miss fans by a bunch which doesn’t bother me any; glad to see it. The concessions were garbage. Talked to a buddy who said fans didn’t get food until the 4th inning but hey what do you expect for a stadium that only sees one sellout a year and is no longer managed by a professional organization?
MudMonsters do need to get a handle on 2nd base. I just knew after Bianco pulled up the “lid” or whatever it was a forfeit was coming.
Now, for all of you TP naysayers. All games scheduled by every school that comes to Pearl and Jackson needs to stay. If they weren’t worth it, every sec school wouldn’t have that format any longer. I for one enjoy it simply because the headache of getting up to Starkville isn’t worth it anymore. These days, the money spent to do all of that is better spent using my grill, not having to fight a bathroom line, beer on the ready and I stand all game long if wanted too without the constant complaining of lazy asses not willing to partake.
Last night did surprise me with the attendance, it felt like Mississippi state fans outnumbered Ole Miss fans by a bunch which doesn’t bother me any; glad to see it. The concessions were garbage. Talked to a buddy who said fans didn’t get food until the 4th inning but hey what do you expect for a stadium that only sees one sellout a year and is no longer managed by a professional organization?
MudMonsters do need to get a handle on 2nd base. I just knew after Bianco pulled up the “lid” or whatever it was a forfeit was coming.
Now, for all of you TP naysayers. All games scheduled by every school that comes to Pearl and Jackson needs to stay. If they weren’t worth it, every sec school wouldn’t have that format any longer. I for one enjoy it simply because the headache of getting up to Starkville isn’t worth it anymore. These days, the money spent to do all of that is better spent using my grill, not having to fight a bathroom line, beer on the ready and I stand all game long if wanted too without the constant complaining of lazy asses not willing to partake.
If there had been any synergy or forethought at all, should have just torn down and rebuilt Smith Wills. At least that area is nearby some decent things.
My question of do we financially benefit still hasn’t been answered… I am fairly certain we do when we play in Biloxi. And yes, in today’s new era of college athletics, I’ll gladly “invent stuff” to point out there may be a better way that benefits the program and university. God forbid
I think it’s a great idea to continue to play this game in Pearl and also play a home and home vs USM and also play a midweek two game series in Biloxi.
Gives a lot of State fans an opportunity to watch us play closer to their homes vs having to drive up to StarkVegas during the week.
Gives a lot of State fans an opportunity to watch us play closer to their homes vs having to drive up to StarkVegas during the week.
8,000+ tickets at $75 & up. The two schools grossed upwards of $700,000 last night. Not bad for a midweek nonconference game.
Could’ve had a ballpark, ag museum, natural science museum, children’s museum, sports hall of fame and potential zoo relocation all within walking distance of each other. And the ballpark would’ve been more accessible from Madison county which would help midweek attendance.
I agree the stadium is fine. Took the kids to autozone park for the Party Animals game a couple months ago and I couldn’t believe how much better Trustmark is regarding seating etc.
I don't think we will see 2 games midweek in Biloxi in the future. It is just too many innings that the pitching staff has to navigate Tuesday & Wednesday before the first SEC series. Lemonis was planning last year to only play 1 in Biloxi this season.
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If not for politics, lots of good things could happen.
^^^17'ING THIS^^^
I'd like to print your post out, roll it up, and beat a few certain politicians and 'thought' leaders about the head and neck with it.
Move the franchise to Tupelo. Would be better supported and Tupelo would probably build a real nice stadium to get an AA team.
You also get to deal with city of Jackson services (water, police, traffic control). Choose your poison.
Location is great though. I'm a big believer that the Smith Wills site would be perfect for a new arena.
Ideally if all the aforementioned synergy was there, we wouldn’t have these issues.
Basically the Jackson Metro needs to reset to neutral. First step is building the JSU football stadium. Step two is demo-ing the Vet and expanding the hospital. Step 3 is investment in that area to make it viable.
All the other stuff, arenas, etc. come after.
I get the concern about playing on a field without a good organization to keep it up, but I'm a fan of playing in Jackson and the Coast. I'd also be good with playing at Autozone in Memphis if it's still good. Tupelo is a little too close to Starkville to justify.
You get a neutral field game for RPI and give your fans a chance to see a midweek game when they aren't close to Starkville. Seems like a win/win. Not sure if it's still this way, but I believe we used to get screwed when we played Memphis in autozone park and it was treated like a neutral game instead of a road game for RPI purposes. If it weren't for that, I'd say play a Memphis midweek game every year.
Similar to why I'm not too upset when we play road games in New Orleans, Mobile, Hattiesburg, Memphis, and Birmingham. Football is a little different because it's not as hard to get to as a midweek baseball game, but if you have to play on the road against G5 teams for financial reasons, might as well do it in places close enough to give fans an easy place to watch.
You get a neutral field game for RPI and give your fans a chance to see a midweek game when they aren't close to Starkville. Seems like a win/win. Not sure if it's still this way, but I believe we used to get screwed when we played Memphis in autozone park and it was treated like a neutral game instead of a road game for RPI purposes. If it weren't for that, I'd say play a Memphis midweek game every year.
Similar to why I'm not too upset when we play road games in New Orleans, Mobile, Hattiesburg, Memphis, and Birmingham. Football is a little different because it's not as hard to get to as a midweek baseball game, but if you have to play on the road against G5 teams for financial reasons, might as well do it in places close enough to give fans an easy place to watch.
I don't quite get your obsession with the JSU football stadium. If Veterans Memorial Stadium is gone tomorrow, there's still quite a lot of progress I'd want to see before the State further tied its UMMC investment to that area.
There are lots of political hurdles to get over before Jackson can be safely invested in. You need the CID to expand to include important residential areas and you need to get the CID out from the politics of Jackson to end the catch and release and have crime there punished more like crime committed in Madison. You need water and sewer control taken from jackson. Then you need to be able to keep convincing legislators from outsisde the Jackson MSA voting to fund road improvements within the CID.
If a stadium for JSU would somehow get Jackson leaders to push support for the city of Jackson having less control over teh CID, then I guess that'd be something to consider, but I think you'd have a lot of opposition to funding a stadium for one college just to get Jackson leaders to agree to protect the CID from themselves.
Well yeah, infrastructure are safety are steps zero. I think you’re misunderstanding me. We agree.
Jackson is just that bad, I think.
I don’t quite understand the criticism of the stadium itself.
From a design and layout perspective, it is well-executed and visually appealing.
That said, the recently installed turf is a clear downgrade, and the concessions operation has been consistently poorly managed—an issue that predates the current tenants.
Still, in my view, the overall quality of the stadium remains strong.
It may not rival the Dude, but it is certainly a step above the Shuckers’ ballpark.
From a design and layout perspective, it is well-executed and visually appealing.
That said, the recently installed turf is a clear downgrade, and the concessions operation has been consistently poorly managed—an issue that predates the current tenants.
Still, in my view, the overall quality of the stadium remains strong.
It may not rival the Dude, but it is certainly a step above the Shuckers’ ballpark.
Except for that whole adjacent Jackson metro thing….no one is headed that way past dark. Especially the Madison crowd. They don’t now without a baseball stadium.
Jesus will be back before this is done. There’s a reason there are no more games…Egg Bowl or otherwise…in Hinds County
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I don’t think the issue is the stadium. I think it’s the extracurricular activities. Most lower tier stadiums invest A LOT in crowd entertainment. Memphis, Jackson, TN, and Chattanooga to name a few. Are they baseball nirvana? No. But the “vibe” at the Pearl stadium since the Braves departed is palpable. These small stadiums seldom survive significant changes. I can only eat so many Country Pleasin’ dogs. Give the kids some hats. Have a fireworks show. Something extra. The weekday schedule doesn’t help…but don’t seem to hurt….ticket sales.
Sad to say, but watching something besides the two visiting baseball teams would help.
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That area isn’t anywhere near the South/West Jackson environment.
If people feel uneasy about the Lefleur's Bluff area, they might need to get a better sense of reality instead of expecting everything to feel like a “Leave It to Beaver” setting.
If people feel uneasy about the Lefleur's Bluff area, they might need to get a better sense of reality instead of expecting everything to feel like a “Leave It to Beaver” setting.
I attended numerous MBraves games as well as several Mud Monsters matchups, and from the perspective you’re describing, the overall experience is virtually identical.
The key distinction—and the reason I find the Mud Monsters less engaging—is the noticeable gap in talent compared to the Southern League.
At times, the level of play feels comparable to SWAC baseball, which, in my view, doesn’t offer the same level of entertainment.
That area itself is fine and the museums host numerous events after dark. Other than those, not much reason to go unless your kid plays baseball and has practice or a game out there.
We paid $38 for SRO tix, did that for the 1st 3 innings walked over to outfield and sat there for the rest of the game.
I appreciate your talent scout perspective, but the other 99% of the area doesn’t recognize the distinction.
The state’s largest metro area and a politically affiliated game. I recognize a $ is a $ but I suspect the sales numbers and ASP overall are skewed with Corporate sponsorships and support.
One needn’t be Joe Torre to recognize the difference between Ronald Acuña Jr. and Brayland Skinner...no slight intended toward Brayland.
You also describe the contrast in atmosphere between the Braves and the Mud Monsters as “palpable,” a characterization I find difficult to reconcile with my own experiences.
From my perspective, the environments are essentially the same, with the primary distinction being the level of on-field talent.
It’s not as though M-Braves games featured Mötley Crüe performing outside the stadium before first pitch.
The experience was fairly standard: the game itself, a bounce house in right field, the usual between-inning promotions, and periodic fireworks.
Those same elements are present at Mud Monsters games as well...in fact, I've noticed the Mud Monsters are actually ramping up the frequency on some of these things.
You also describe the contrast in atmosphere between the Braves and the Mud Monsters as “palpable,” a characterization I find difficult to reconcile with my own experiences.
From my perspective, the environments are essentially the same, with the primary distinction being the level of on-field talent.
It’s not as though M-Braves games featured Mötley Crüe performing outside the stadium before first pitch.
The experience was fairly standard: the game itself, a bounce house in right field, the usual between-inning promotions, and periodic fireworks.
Those same elements are present at Mud Monsters games as well...in fact, I've noticed the Mud Monsters are actually ramping up the frequency on some of these things.