The right reason to go to Europe is because there’s a great player there you have to have. Were there because we can’t get anyone here. Don’t do it to yourselves and talk yourself into this. It’s going to fail.
Remember, he’s in Europe because no one good in America will come here.
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Pope is a loser recruiter. He is desperate and trying to win the lottery.
Next year’s team will be lucky to win 15 games.
We are a total joke of a program
Next year’s team will be lucky to win 15 games.
We are a total joke of a program
I agree, its really sad to see what this once great program has been reduced to. I don't believe anyone feels we are a title contender and now we are debating whether we will win 15 games or simply be mediocre. The program has truly fallen on horrible times.
Israel isn't in Europe.
These guys probably don't speak English well so Popes dorkiness doesn't come across as well.
These guys probably don't speak English well so Popes dorkiness doesn't come across as well.
I haven't felt this bad about an upcoming season since Pitinos first season which we went 14-14 with a bunch of nobodies but at least there was hope...There is no hope with this clown and knowing what's coming is the worst part.
Don't worry, nobody good from Europe or Asia will come either. He'll get the 3rd tier guys like he does in America.
The 6'8" center playing in Israel oozes disappointment.
negative fans it's one thing mark is bad at recruiting freshmen. we got a total takeover of nerds all trying to bully mark pope. the dude we signed from overseas played against dudes better than people in the sec. pope is recruiting wrong types,me first types who will continue to spurn him. jackass fans though on this board and bandwagon fans give us a bad look. you can't wait and see you just assume. we got lots of bandwagon fans like UConn or duke does maybe they won't watch no more. maybe will just keep saying poop and dork and same ****. as long as they are a part of a mob who cares.last year we had a top portal recruiting class and guess what we weren't great. too many people dependent on freshmen because last year had lots of good freshmen and it was a variance.
Catpright, my boy. Respect you sticking with your position to the bitter end, but there has been a lot of "wait and see" -- soon there won't be anything left to wait on.
Also, why are you attacking nerds? Pope and Keegan Brown are the biggest ******* nerds out there.
Best bet I am going to fact check ol Keegan Brown too. Even if he is correct, this coach ain't winning a title even if you wait and see for the rest of your life.
Also, why are you attacking nerds? Pope and Keegan Brown are the biggest ******* nerds out there.
Best bet I am going to fact check ol Keegan Brown too. Even if he is correct, this coach ain't winning a title even if you wait and see for the rest of your life.
I agree, I'm coming here hoping to find something to cling to but I'm really considering just sitting out from watching Kentucky basketball next year. I don't believe watching the games next year will be a net positive for me compared to the work I can get done around the house and spending time with family.
Have there been any euro guys who have come over here and had a huge impact year 1? Seems like anytime UK gets them, it’s a complete bust.
Narcissistic “Fans” dumping on Moreno, Hawthorne, Diallo, Wilkins, McBride, etc.
How about some truth -- they all SUCK, except Moreno, possibly Hawthorne, POSSIBLY (and it's a big stretch) Wilkins.
More truth -- we're staring at the barrel of 15+ losses next season.
You wanna be a hero and be a superfan and cheer on the losing, go for it.
OK I just fact-checked CatPhright's #1 nerd Keegan Brown and his claim of 1 title team since 2019 having a top 30 player. The below are based on RSCI HS rankings.
First observation -- Brown is wrong (shocking, for this staff, I know). 3 title teams had RSCI top 30 guys (not 1).
Second observation -- whether the talent was there from HS or not, title teams needed 3+ NBA players to win, preferably 5+, as the recent UConn and Mich teams are going to be sending
Note that the teams with the least HS talent (UF, Baylor) STILL produced multiple NBA players.
If you expand this to the FF, other than just title teams, the HS and NBA talent spikes up astronomically.
TLDR -- Keegan Brown and this staff are shitheads and can go **** themselves and die.
First observation -- Brown is wrong (shocking, for this staff, I know). 3 title teams had RSCI top 30 guys (not 1).
Second observation -- whether the talent was there from HS or not, title teams needed 3+ NBA players to win, preferably 5+, as the recent UConn and Mich teams are going to be sending
Note that the teams with the least HS talent (UF, Baylor) STILL produced multiple NBA players.
If you expand this to the FF, other than just title teams, the HS and NBA talent spikes up astronomically.
TLDR -- Keegan Brown and this staff are shitheads and can go **** themselves and die.
| Year | Title Team | Top 30 Rated Player(s) | NBA Players |
| 2019 | Virginia | None (Kyle Guy 32) | 6 |
| 2020 | None (Covid) | N/A | N/A |
| 2021 | Baylor | None (Davion Mitchell 58) | 4 |
| 2022 | Kansas | David McCormack | 3 |
| 2023 | UConn | None (Donovan Clingan 37) | 5 |
| 2024 | UConn | Steph Castle | 4, possibly more |
| 2025 | Florida | None (Nobody top 100!) | 3, possibly more |
| 2026 | Michigan | Trey McKenney Morez Johnson Nimari Burnett | TBD (count on at least 4) |
Your wrong. These players are from all over the world and most are x American players but many won’t ever get a chance at the nba
Anyone defending Pope at this point is either in a state of denial or high on PCP.
That’s a completely ridiculous take. You think Mark Pope can find them but the freaking NBA can’t?
It is because of Morons like you bashing everything everywhere. Good luck working at Cracker Barrel.
you have lots of options internationally. most of illinois team came international. most of you fans are more bandwagon fans than pure fans. fans who like teams only when they are doing good id bandwagon. ie duke and UConn fans. lots of negative fans, and it's still not helping anything
The tweet was last year and if you use 247 composite he's right.
David Mirkovic at Illinois and Thijs De Ridder at Virginia this past year are probably the two who would immediately qualify in my mind. It hasn’t been very common historically between the best Euro players going to the NBA instead of college and the NCAA only really opening the floodgates in approving players with high level pro experience within the past couple of years.
Fair -- McCormack was 30 in RSCI but 36 in 247 composite. If going by 247 composite, then it's 1 team from 2019- 2025. Sure.
My counter -- Michigan just back-handed his theory in brutal fashion (3 top 30 HS guys). And for next year, 8 of the top 10 title favorites have Top 30 (247 Composite) guys coming in. And the other 2 might have some on the current roster (didn't bother checking). Odds are his theory is debunked 3 years in a row.
It's never the correct approach as a coach to argue why it's a good thing you don't have talent. This staff is just on another level of bad.