Game 46 - Coastal 12 Carolina 2

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One of the worst innings the Carolina pitching staff has had this season so far, six runs on seven hits is the most that the UNC pitching staff has allowed this season...they did allow six in the 5th inning against BC in game three but that was only on four hits. The pitchers for that inning were similar...Cam Seagraves, Folger Boaz and Matty, not inferring anything as those are small sample sizes but that's the fact.
just one of those nights ... one of those games ... certainly does NOT define this team's season

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Admittedly, I was recruited my Gilmore/Schnall and just have a ton of respect for the way Coastal plays the game and executes so this is tough game for me as a fan lol But, it’s just so impressive in how they’ve built that program and the staying power they’ve had since Gilmore really got them going. They recruit a certain type of guy, a ton of LH bats and really protectable pitchers. Tough game tonight for the Heels but these types of things happen in a 56 game season. I wouldn’t say anything is an indictment on the season or the team, tough night against a really good team and program. We’ll be absolutely fine.
very salient points ... but, unfortunately, they will fall on many deaf ears

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Heelyeah#23

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Felt like we had a better chance at Omaha last year. The offense will eventually crater this team
I said something similar a few weeks ago and hurt a few people's feelings.
Truth hurts but watching other teams play it is so easy to see our overall hitting every year doesn't match pitching.
Nothing changes so get used to it.
 
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Certainly all valid to expect good play. But one off night out of 60 is reality right? I mean, you can't expect perfection every single pitch, out and at bat.

They have stunk tonight. No question. It's one game against a good team on a Tuesday. The over reaction by some folks is just wild to me. Should the team be embarrassed? Yes. Coaching staff and players? Yes.....

Case in point....

Carolina's offense is terrible, bad, whatever other adjective.....Carolina just scored 22 runs three days ago.

Carolina's pitching is bad....Carolina's 9th in the nation in team ERA.

Carolina's defense is terrible, awful, bad........Carolina is 14th in nation in defensive fielding percentage...

Bad games happen in baseball. You'd like them not to happen when the season is on the line for sure......but better it all happen at once and you hope they flush it out of their system, but we shall see....
100% ... thx TA

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I said something similar a few weeks ago and hurt a few people's feelings.
Truth hurts but watching other teams play it is so easy to see our overall hitting every year doesn't match pitching.
Nothing changes so get used to it.
This time last year, we had a worse record. Did we lay a stinker tonight? Yep, we sure did. Did we run rule the #3 team in the country less than two weeks ago? Yep, we sure did. GT run ruled Georgia last week. Texas walked off Sam Houston St. after being down by six runs at one point tonight. UCLA just lost to Sacramento State. Great teams have bad nights. People writing off this team because of one really horrible performance are ridiculous. If we don’t throttle Queens and dook, then it might make me scratch my head a little bit, but some nights you’re just bad. Flush it and move on.
 

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What are yall talking about? He used 3 of his top 6 pitchers to start the game. Nobody is being more aggressive than that for a midweek game.
It’s a mid week game with no weekend series, a Sunday game vs Dook. Look at the days of rest. He could throw decaro vs a top 10 team Tuesday and Sunday. Not saying he should, saying he could. Going to Walker in the 2nd was a lot like what happened game 2 and 3 vs Arizona.

I still chalk it up to, baseball happens, wasn’t our night, short memory and bounce back.
 
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DeCaro would be on shorter rest than he’s been on at any point this year. Maybe he could have pitched, it’s perfectly valid not to start him. Why change his routine coming off his best start of the season for a midweek game? Nobody coaches like that in college baseball.
He’s gonna have to get him work somehow this week. He’s said before he could go on 4 days rest. Feels like the game plan was a staff day. I was saying do that vs Queens, not coastal, but it’s his team. Some times teams need a humbling. We will be fine
 
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TaylorMadeHeel

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Certainly all valid to expect good play. But one off night out of 60 is reality right? I mean, you can't expect perfection every single pitch, out and at bat.

They have stunk tonight. No question. It's one game against a good team on a Tuesday. The over reaction by some folks is just wild to me. Should the team be embarrassed? Yes. Coaching staff and players? Yes.....

Case in point....

Carolina's offense is terrible, bad, whatever other adjective.....Carolina just scored 22 runs three days ago.

Carolina's pitching is bad....Carolina's 9th in the nation in team ERA.

Carolina's defense is terrible, awful, bad........Carolina is 14th in nation in defensive fielding percentage...

Bad games happen in baseball. You'd like them not to happen when the season is on the line for sure......but better it all happen at once and you hope they flush it out of their system, but we shall see....
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TaylorMadeHeel

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Not worried about the pitching because other than McDuffie (who was mostly great) our horses didn’t pitch. The inconsistency at the plate is the concerning part. 22 runs in a game is great but I’d rather not have these no show nights and just be solid.
I agree but also worried about Matty and Boaz. Was hoping Rose would make a case for the Sunday starter.
 

JohnBunting

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You guys making excuses for an "off night".

It's more like the ACC teams are usually severely over-ranked in all three sports and our team this yr is no different. Will not make it to Omaha again despite another national seed.
 
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Admittedly, I was recruited my Gilmore/Schnall and just have a ton of respect for the way Coastal plays the game and executes so this is tough game for me as a fan lol But, it’s just so impressive in how they’ve built that program and the staying power they’ve had since Gilmore really got them going. They recruit a certain type of guy, a ton of LH bats and really protectable pitchers. Tough game tonight for the Heels but these types of things happen in a 56 game season. I wouldn’t say anything is an indictment on the season or the team, tough night against a really good team and program. We’ll be absolutely fine.
I wonder if Forbes takes any notes. He definitely analyzes everything and knows change is required for growth and success.
 

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Ton of baseball left. Still think this team has a lot of upside. Weaknesses have been defined at this point. Like our chances as well as any other team I have seen play this year and I have watched a ton of college baseball. There is a lot of parity in the Top 20 teams. Best looking teams I have seen are UCLA, GT, UNC, Texas, AM, Coastal and Georgia. I want to be playing our best in late May and June. With all the parity in baseball, getting to Omaha this year won't be easy for any team regardless of seeding.
 

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I apologize in advance if this has already been discussed in the thread, but last night confirmed in my mind that Glauber needs to stay in the bullpen... at least for now. He wasn't available after throwing 70 pitches as the starter on Saturday. If he WAS available, maybe he starts the 7th instead of Matthijs.

Having said that, the Hull drop in the 6th was the turning point. If he makes that play, they don't score and we still lead 2-1. It also forced McDuffie to throw about 10 extra pitches. If we still lead 2-1, he might go back out to start the 7th.
 

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Seems like we got two or three characters on the board who like to stir things up. It was an ugly loss that zeroed in on a couple of our larger flaws. No doubt on that. But think Hull might have taken the hard luck at bats to the field with him. He’d normally get that long drive 19 of 20 times and the throw to the plate that was several feet up the 1b line wasn’t his best effort either. Those are correctible and should not repeat. We did see a good argument for keeping Glauber in the pen since we haven’t been able to get consistency from the group that Grace named in an earlier post. We need at least one more guy to step up and take some load because the postseason is a contest of attrition.
 

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I apologize in advance if this has already been discussed in the thread, but last night confirmed in my mind that Glauber needs to stay in the bullpen... at least for now. He wasn't available after throwing 70 pitches as the starter on Saturday. If he WAS available, maybe he starts the 7th instead of Matthijs.

Having said that, the Hull drop in the 6th was the turning point. If he makes that play, they don't score and we still lead 2-1. It also forced McDuffie to throw about 10 extra pitches. If we still lead 2-1, he might go back out to start the 7th.
If Glauber was fully available, I think he pitches the time when McDuffie did and then McDuffie comes in in the 6th or 7th.

I don't think there's any debate that at this point we have to have DeCaro, Lynch, Glauber and McDuffie available in the first two games of a regional, which means he stays in the pen. I think we did the right thing starting him Sunday because winning that series was imperative and it gave him the opportunity to get his feet wet as a starter, but it for sure impacted us last night. That said, you need more than 2 guys in a bullpen that you can trust, and it's disappointing that we're entering May and don't have that.
 
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tarheeltyler9

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Guessing all the people who criticized him for not using DeCaro won’t watch this and see he decided before the game he was unavailable. And they’re going to be real upset when he pitches tomorrow.
If he pitches today cool but the announcers said at least 3 times he was available yesterday so I don’t know why your quoting me
 

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If he pitches today cool but the announcers said at least 3 times he was available yesterday so I don’t know why your quoting me
They did because Forbes thought he may be as of yesterday morning. And Forbes said he changed his mind.

It's a fair debate. I certainly understand the decision to keep Jason in something as close to his normal routine as possible given the schedule. I also would have understood getting him some reps out of the bullpen last night.
 
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Glob definitely needs to stay in the pen no way around it . This is definitely a top 5 team when Decaro or lynch start and Glob and McDuffy are available in the pen. When none or only 1 is available nights like last night can happen. Thats why I have said a regional is by FAR the most dangerous round for this team and we absolutely have to win the first two games of the regional. If and that's a big word this team gets out of a regional I would not bet even a penny against them in the supers .
 

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I apologize in advance if this has already been discussed in the thread, but last night confirmed in my mind that Glauber needs to stay in the bullpen... at least for now. He wasn't available after throwing 70 pitches as the starter on Saturday. If he WAS available, maybe he starts the 7th instead of Matthijs.

Having said that, the Hull drop in the 6th was the turning point. If he makes that play, they don't score and we still lead 2-1. It also forced McDuffie to throw about 10 extra pitches. If we still lead 2-1, he might go back out to start the 7th.
I think I agree but I can see we are going to need a reliable starter for at least a Game 3 in the regional. If you have to burn McDuffie and Glauber to win the first two games which I think you have to try and stay in the winners bracket who starts game 3? Boaz or Rose? I think the whole bullpen with the exception of McDuffie and Glauber have more question marks than answers but most teams we play won't have 2 better relievers than our best two.
 

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Glob definitely needs to stay in the pen no way around it . This is definitely a top 5 team when Decaro or lynch start and Glob and McDuffy are available in the pen. When none or only 1 is available nights like last night can happen. Thats why I have said a regional is by FAR the most dangerous round for this team and we absolutely have to win the first two games of the regional. If and that's a big word this team gets out of a regional I would not bet even a penny against them in the supers .
I’m never in the camp of pitching off in the first of a regional, but I’d have to be convinced that we shouldn’t start Boaz or Rose in game 1 this year. I doubt Forbes does it because it’s just not how he’s wired.
 
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Seems like Matthijs has struggled any time I’ve seen him go out there this year. Still recovering from surgery? Maybe Knapp gave me an unrealistic expectation of coming back from injury.
 

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I’m never in the camp of pitching off in the first of a regional, but I’d have to be convinced that we shouldn’t start Boaz or Rose in game 1 this year. I doubt Forbes does it because it’s just not how he’s wired.

I literally almost posted this an hour ago but didn’t because I don’t think Forbes will consider it. It would have to be a 4 seed in like the 200s I think.

The simple answer is at some point you have to win a game in a regional with offense.
 
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Pitching to me looks like we have 5 pitchers you feel pretty good about . Jason and Ryan as starters. Feel really good in closer / long games of Globe and Duff. Rose has shown promise, but it seems he really needs that one put away pitch when he gets 2 strikes against good hitters. Top 5 there. Actually feel better about Boaz starting than depending on him late , so I would go with those 3 starters and 3 main receivers/ closers. One guy I feel better than our staff apparently , lol is Chewy. You know what you’re getting and he throws strikes and lets his defense work. Regardless, with Seagraves, Padgett, or the vulture , you just have to hope it’s their day. Talented but can’t seem to find the control consistently to miss barrels.
 
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I literally almost posted this an hour ago but didn’t because I don’t think Forbes will consider it. It would have to be a 4 seed in like the 200s I think.
You mean like Navy (210), who D1 currently has projected as our 4 seed? Even if we get a team like that, it probably comes down to if they have a solid Friday starter. Their Friday guy has a 1.77 ERA, 1.15 WHIP and .216 BAA, meaning Scott would not take that chance.
 

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I apologize in advance if this has already been discussed in the thread, but last night confirmed in my mind that Glauber needs to stay in the bullpen... at least for now. He wasn't available after throwing 70 pitches as the starter on Saturday. If he WAS available, maybe he starts the 7th instead of Matthijs.

Having said that, the Hull drop in the 6th was the turning point. If he makes that play, they don't score and we still lead 2-1. It also forced McDuffie to throw about 10 extra pitches. If we still lead 2-1, he might go back out to start the 7th.
As in any sport, make the plays available to you to make. That was the back breaker, just like the drop last week at dook.
 

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Beat Queens, assuming we get it in!
“Flush it” as Scott says! That was a terrible beat down when we could have started DeCaro but midway we had not pitched poorly, just a couple of defensive mess ups & then it all began.
 

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You mean like Navy (210), who D1 currently has projected as our 4 seed? Even if we get a team like that, it probably comes down to if they have a solid Friday starter. Their Friday guy has a 1.77 ERA, 1.15 WHIP and .216 BAA, meaning Scott would not take that chance.
Exactly why I don't think we'll take the risk. The Holy Cross guy last year was a pretty good arm.

I mostly still trust the "start 2-0 and find a way to win 1 of the next 2" strategy.
 

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If he pitches today cool but the announcers said at least 3 times he was available yesterday so I don’t know why your quoting me
Announcers said it but post game interview Forbes said he wasn’t going to pitch him; wanted one more rest day. I am saying this after watching but before watching saying he should’ve pitched against Coastal
 

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He should be. Yeah it’s baseball and stuff happens, but that was an all-no show. You can’t tha. That was an embarrassing not even close to being a competitive game. Get it together tonight. Go Heels!
I’m going to crash out if we fail to make it to Omaha back to back years ranked #1 and #2. Get it together…