I’m totally aware that 75-90% of this country drinks responsibly, I’m not demonizing alcohol. Most people go to a baseball game have 4-6 beers eat a hot dog, maybe some popcorn, and go home.
I’ve never done an illegal drug in my life. But right now, I’m drinking a fifth a day. Sometimes a fifth a day and 6 more beers after that. Somehow it has not affected my job as I wake up every morning and go, do my best. But I’ll get sober for a month, 2 months, hell I’ve been sober for 13 months before. But I keep coming back.
This may sound corny, but MSU athletic success makes me happy. It’s one of the few things in life that I don’t need to booze to enjoy. I have started posting here because I know it’s a group of people that want us to win every f*cking game like I do. Come from behind wins like tonight watching with my 9 year old are pure joy. But I still think about booze every f*cking day.
Have you ever been addicted to alcohol? If so, how did you overcome it?
I was the same way until not long ago. As best I can tell, alcoholism is pretty random across gender/class etc.It was just a word to me and something ignorant young me associated with fall down, street dwelling drunks. It's far from exclusive to that group.
It is truly awful.
Man I completely understand how traveling for work and living out of hotels can create a serious sense of loneliness and boredom. I don't travel as much as I used to for work but now I can be out of town for a month at a time. That hotel room can feel like a prison and the only escape can be going out to eat. That single beer you order with your meal can easily turn into 10 because you don't want to sit in your room alone.Both of those were 3+ years ago. I had a problem even before that. My point is that I’ve had some tragic events in my life, and I didn’t even during those perioids drink to cope with those.
The problem, at least for me, is that alcohol is everywhere. Let’s say you were addicted to heroin. Well, that’s a tough thing to beat, but heroin is not sold in every gas station and grocery store. It’s not consumed at most social functions.
I travel a lot for work. What happens to me is that I will get sober for an extended period of time, I’m talking months not days. And then I’ll be at a dinner, or at a social event, and say okay I’ll have one beer or glass of wine. Sometimes I DO have that 1-2 glasses of wine or beer and that’s it’s. But maybe every 4-5th time I have 5 beers, and find myself ordering Uber Eats alcohol and polishing off a pint of whiskey after that dinner by myself in my hotel room. Then I get on a horrible binge that last weeks.
I don’t even know why, I don’t even know what triggers it.
I'm sure you know this, but the anxiety thing is self reinforcing. If I drink one night, I'm fine. If I drink three nights in a row, I have bad anxiety. And it's tempting to want to treat the anxiety with more alcohol, but eventually you just have to gut it out. And as far as I know, any of the prescription medicines for anxiety just trade one dependency for another. Maybe one of the MDs here can correct me, but it seems like if the anxiety is substance/chemical induced, you pretty much have to just gut it out at some point. Or I guess maybe ween off of whatever.My biggest thing is anxiety. I feel like I can’t have fun or really be in public anymore without a few beers. I’m not sure when it started but I wasn’t much of a drinker and more of a weed guy and at some point traded one for the other and then it became an everyday thing. The anxiety just gets worse and worse as I get older and I’ve noticed it’s become how I cope with it and it’s scary. I was prescribed to benzos but that **** sucks so I put it down pretty quickly. Glad to know I’m not alone, I guess.
That’s a good point. My anxiety may have gotten worse when my drinking did because of it..I'm sure you know this, but the anxiety thing is self reinforcing. If I drink one night, I'm fine. If I drink three nights in a row, I have bad anxiety. And it's tempting to want to treat the anxiety with more alcohol, but eventually you just have to gut it out. And as far as I know, any of the prescription medicines for anxiety just trade one dependency for another. Maybe one of the MDs here can correct me, but it seems like if the anxiety is substance/chemical induced, you pretty much have to just gut it out at some point. Or I guess maybe ween off of whatever.
If you cannot find the self control to stop drinking yourself, there is certainly nothing wrong with you. I would invite you to think about seeking help in an online program first. If it's something you don't want the world to know (as in all your friends and family finding out you are in some kind of rehab), then an online program will keep it all between you and the program. You can take the classes at your own pace and not have to worry about parking around back at a treatment center so your boss or wife doesn't see you parked there.I’m totally aware that 75-90% of this country drinks responsibly, I’m not demonizing alcohol. Most people go to a baseball game have 4-6 beers eat a hot dog, maybe some popcorn, and go home.
I’ve never done an illegal drug in my life. But right now, I’m drinking a fifth a day. Sometimes a fifth a day and 6 more beers after that. Somehow it has not affected my job as I wake up every morning and go, do my best. But I’ll get sober for a month, 2 months, hell I’ve been sober for 13 months before. But I keep coming back.
This may sound corny, but MSU athletic success makes me happy. It’s one of the few things in life that I don’t need to booze to enjoy. I have started posting here because I know it’s a group of people that want us to win every f*cking game like I do. Come from behind wins like tonight watching with my 9 year old are pure joy. But I still think about booze every f*cking day.
Have you ever been addicted to alcohol? If so, how did you overcome it?
I'm sure you know this, but the anxiety thing is self reinforcing. If I drink one night, I'm fine. If I drink three nights in a row, I have bad anxiety. And it's tempting to want to treat the anxiety with more alcohol, but eventually you just have to gut it out. And as far as I know, any of the prescription medicines for anxiety just trade one dependency for another. Maybe one of the MDs here can correct me, but it seems like if the anxiety is substance/chemical induced, you pretty much have to just gut it out at some point. Or I guess maybe ween off of whatever.
Well said, Alcohol is the cause of the addiction, not the person. There's no shame in getting help from any substance.If you cannot fine the self control to stop drinking yourself, there is nothing wrong with it and certainly nothing wrong with you. I would invite you to think about seeking help in an online program first. If it's something you don't want the world to know (as in all your friends and family finding out you are in some kind of rehab), then an online program will keep it all between you and the program. You can take the classes at your own pace and not have to worry about parking around back at a treatment center so your boss or wife doesn't see you parked there.
For me, and most likely for many on this board, I have had periods of my life where I certainly drank too much. I was always able to have that inner strength to realize that and completely stop for long periods of time. If IT is controlling YOU, then you certainly need to seek help man. I pray that you do that and find happiness outside of the 5'th each day. That is nowhere near healthy for you, and will catch up with you in a big way as you age. Good luck man, and thanks for at least reaching out to a group of people who have certainly had the same issues.
Sometimes as men, we let our pride get in the way of getting help. It's not right and we need to realize our family matters more than our personal happiness. Do it man!
No shame at all. I'll bet at least 60-70% percent of the men on this board have battled with some type of addiction in their lives. Maybe more. Most never have the strength to first, admit it. Then to seek help.Well said, Alcohol is the cause of the addiction, not the person. There's no shame in getting help from any substance.
Society persuades us to drink as youngsters, to be like our parents. "It's what adults & the cool kids do." Then many get addicted and cannot stop. It's romanticized way too much as the only way to have fun or cope with stress.
One thing I really didn't understand is what a roll of the dice it is to drink heavily. I think when I was younger I was just like, if it ever becomes a problem, you just have to dial it back. I did not understand how quickly some people could pick up a chemical addiction. I've been around people that drink heavily for years and never pick up any noticeable chemical addiction. I've seen somebody that drank heavily everyday pretty much for years and was causing himself problems, but when it interfered with his life, he just quit. No physical withdrawal symptoms at all. Just had to deal with the psychological crutch. On the flipside I've seen people get hooked quickly. Just go from recreational drinking to drinking with breakfast in a few years. Seems to be way worse for women, which I understand is there is actually a biological reason for that that I don't remember the basics of.Well said, Alcohol is the cause of the addiction, not the person. There's no shame in getting help from any substance.
Society persuades us to drink as youngsters, to be like our parents. "It's what adults & the cool kids do." Then many get addicted and cannot stop. It's romanticized way too much as the only way to have fun or cope with stress.