I mean, we all knew this, but it’s wild to hear Terry Smith say it out loud…
Terry Smith on Drew Allar: “Our system wasn’t built for him.”
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I mean, we all knew this, but it’s wild to hear Terry Smith say it out loud…
It’s disgusting to hear this. With Allar, PSU should’ve run an offense like Dallas did with Aikman: a running back and full back, two wide receivers, and a tight end, and play bully ball. Instead, we ran a hodge podge of nothingness.
I knew something was up when he started to line up at the WR position. Always fooled me.
I think that Coach Smith is telling this to qbs who are being recruited by both PSU and VT.
It’s not weird. It’s refreshing.
We built this offense
We built this offense for someone else
Built this offense
We built this offense for someone else
We built this offense for someone else
Built this offense
We built this offense for someone else
May I add an additional lyric line?We built this offense
We built this offense for someone else
Built this offense
We built this offense for someone else
We built this offense
We built this offense to put your talents on the shelf
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BGJ didn’t have clue about to do with any QB.
There clearly was intra-staff tension about BGJ’s decision making. Much to Terry’s credit, he kept his mouth shut and stayed.
Others got fed up and left
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I guess my rhetorical question is, “did anyone think to say this two or three years ago during any game planning or season planning sessions?” 
Probably Stubblefield, Siedner and maybe even Tom AllenI guess my rhetorical question is, “did anyone think to say this two or three years ago during any game planning or season planning sessions?”
James wants his QBs to be mobile and athletic. He pushed Clifford very hard to become more explosive on the ground. He pushed Allar to be more mobile as well. James is not comfortable with a pocket passer slinging the ball around. Pribula, while not nearly as talented as Allar, would’ve been a better option for James as the starting QB. He would have worked perfectly in the goofy AK offense. What James did to Drew was professional malpractice.
Drew Allar was built for PSU. James Franklin wasn’t.
Thanks BOT and Sandy.
Thanks BOT and Sandy.
Christian Hackenberg says hold my beer!
The greatest thing that happened all off season was keeping Coach Terry Smith
It’s just another SaturdayWe built this offense
We built this offense for someone else
Built this offense
We built this offense for someone else
In this Centre County town
There’s a lot of tail-gating
But the parking is a mess
Who counts the money
In our coach’s buyout
Looking for a new contract
Every ******* year
Big Game James likes "yes" me. Exhibit A:I guess my rhetorical question is, “did anyone think to say this two or three years ago during any game planning or season planning sessions?”
If Allar was going to start just one year then okay, don't build a new system for a guy that's gone after one year anyway. But he was starting as a true sophomore, which means you know he was going to be starting at least two years, if not more. So build a system around his skills.
Or if you don't want a player with those kinds of skills and instead want a mobile QB, they recruit those kinds of QBs instead of Allar.
Or if you don't want a player with those kinds of skills and instead want a mobile QB, they recruit those kinds of QBs instead of Allar.
One thing I will say against Allar is this. That haircut. The broccoli floret haircut. You see it a lot these days. I can't wait until that goes out of style.
Didn't Hackenberg say the same thing about CJF? That he wanted him to become this RPO guy in a single off-season? I seem to recall this.
I'm not sure, frankly, who the offense was built for. For example, I was never sure who was pushing for all of the BS gadget crap that they had inserted into the offense. Running Drew out wide for some really obvious, up the middle in a cloud of dust, 'wildcat' thing 4/5 times a game. Was this Kotelnicki or BGJ or both? Either way, it was stupid.
I appreciate that Terry tries to stand up for the players in a meaningful way.
I'm not sure, frankly, who the offense was built for. For example, I was never sure who was pushing for all of the BS gadget crap that they had inserted into the offense. Running Drew out wide for some really obvious, up the middle in a cloud of dust, 'wildcat' thing 4/5 times a game. Was this Kotelnicki or BGJ or both? Either way, it was stupid.
I appreciate that Terry tries to stand up for the players in a meaningful way.
This was my biggest gripe. Franklin seemed to have a “system” the players had to fit in when he first got here. Then he went out and got a series of “system” coaches one after another to try and take PSU to the next level, instead of just building a system to match his players’ strengths.
Can we all agree Fraud Franklin had no system other than chasing shiny recruiting objects, hiring sycophants to feed his ego, and blaming others for his failures?
Big Game James is perhaps the best and most recent example of a narcissist.
Key Narcissistic Behaviors and Traits
- Grandiosity & Superiority: A belief that they are special and superior, often bragging and exaggerating achievements.
- Constant Need for Admiration:They require excessive attention, compliments, and validation to support their fragile self-esteem.
- Sense of Entitlement: They expect unreasonable special treatment and automatic compliance with their wishes.
- Exploitative Relationships: They take advantage of others, using people for their own gain without guilt or remorse.
- Lack of Empathy: They are unwilling or unable to recognize or validate the feelings and needs of others.
- Arrogance and Contempt:Behavior is often haughty, looking down on others, and demeaning those they perceive as inferior.
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I thought the system that Franklin ultimately settled on was Joe Moorhead’s. There was a distinct deviation from the earlier Franklin offense when joe showed up. IMO, that was when Franklin had no real say in the offense as he was learning it, so Joe called most of his own game. Coincidentally we won and set all kinds of records on offense. Also, the greatest athlete in school history was in the backfield at that time, which probably made it look better than it was. Franklin looked like he adopted the Moorhead offense afterward, but without a Saquon or the guy who developed the system. So he tried to tweak it in weird, often nonsensical ways to confuse the other team. Because he never found another Saquon or because he didn’t understand how the Moorhead offense really worked or could evolve, he mutated the offense into something that it was never meant to be. I think he ended up just asking the players to out athlete the other team with this bastardized Moorhead system. the offense never found any sort of consistency or explosive effectiveness when out athlete wasn’t working.
I think this may be the reason many actual good WRs flamed out here because there was no real effort for the offense to “go down the field”. The only “real” downfield threat the past few years was all world TE, Tyler Warren. They used the other receivers as window dressing. Look what happened with a few of the receivers who went elsewhere. It becomes more apparent the offense in the past had Franklin fingerprints all over it.
Very true, it was very evident that he played far worse under James than he did BOB.
2 of the 3 system OC's didn't design their offenses around read option, until they got to PSU. Yurcich's success before and after PSU relies on pocket passers and some RPO, but not much read option. Ciarroca's preferred offense was run heavy but would go to more balanced according to WR talent, TOP dominate style with some RPO, but not much read option. He also didn't use TE's. Neither prioritized mobile QB's. Koltenicki, of course, ran a read option, mobile QB, gadget play offense.
So those 2 were successful before PSU, forgot how to coach at PSU, then remembered after? I have no doubts Allar would have had more success if they were allowed to run what they were successful with prior, rather than being told what to implement (read option). Someone dictated what he wanted them to do, instead of allowing them to do what they're best at.
I totally agree and what credit to Terry when he took over that he continued to effuse Franklin and mention "letting him down," but the sense I get is that he didn't feel that way inwardly, he was trying to be empathetic to the players.
To your point, I was amazed at halftime of a rutgers game in which Clifford played well and we were handling them, when interviewed at halftime, the reporter asked franklin what he wanted to see in the second half from clifford and he said "I'd like to see him slide and step out of bounce LESS, especially when in position to pick up the first down." I couldn't believe it considering how vital Clifford was to the offense, that you'd advocate for more direct hits on him.
Part of the misuse/issue was that JF couldn't reel in the 4/5 star Dual threat QB. He almost had Fields but OSU got him. So in order to keep the recruiting ranking high you have to bring in a QB every year and a 5 star is a 5 star even if he doesnt fit what you plan to do. Same with bringing in the 5 star road grader OL guy and making them stand still in the RPO.