So that sounds like a complex you have. But you're clearly not done if you're still responding.
Honestly, not sure what you're done with. You never did anything to be done with.
Honestly, not sure what you're done with. You never did anything to be done with.
Man, I tried super nice to be patient with you. Blocked. No need to antagonize when I repeatedly and kindly tell you to stop.
You're antagonizing yourself. Literally no one is forcing you to respond but yourself.
I agree
!! 2 elite players will be essential for this team. The SF/SG position to me are open and waiting for those potential 2 players.That’s not at all true. I legit used the whole body of work scenario. I think he can’t do the job because he’s got a 6th and 10th place finish in conference. Also because his trajectory is opposite of what it should be. Also because his history says this is who he is. Also because he can’t land a recruit better than Furmans best player (kidding, sort of). And on top of all that he’s just weird AF in the media and now in hiding.
If he had a season where he actually recruited well, won or finished in the top 2 or 3 of the conference and showed some consistency, my mind would be completely changed…if he could actually replicate it. But there’s nothing in his past or present performance that says he can do that.
I think REAL tourney runs are the by product of the process being rock solid. He’s a long way from being rock solid in the process. A long LONG way.
2nd, 3rd, and 2nd in the SEC…and damn you for making me defend the dude. I was beyond ready for him to go. But Pope has been worse, and that is undeniable.Watch little house and the Waltons
So you are then saying you do not need any elite scorers to win the National Championship. The claim I was responding to was that you need multiple elite scorers to compete at a high level. You did get the part that 11.9 was MKG and the leading scorer at 14.2 was Anthony Davis?
Beta mentality?
The premise was if they know they have 2 or 3 years max to get a Final Four or they are getting fired vs. staying were they are already successful or taking another high level job without psychotic demands from entitled delusional fans..
Try to follow along with what was being discussed. He went 9 years without a Final Four.
One outlier example doesn't mean much. He had already taken the Michigan job before Cal's departure was official but I doubt he considers this job if he knows the demand is he does it in the first 2 or 3 seasons or he gets fired.
Lol, so we are blaming him for a year there wasn't even a final 4?
It has nothing to do with anyone overrating the SEC. The sports reference site is strictly by the numbers. My mentality has zero to do with this. It is straight fact according to this unbiased source.
What was outlier about it? He used NIL and the transfer portal. Did not everyone else have access to the same thing?
You're right highly competitive and successful people hate demanding situations and pressure!
But it does have to do with the SEC being overrated. That's already been broken down in this thread. If the SEC was overrated, that's going to artificially increase our SOS. Which it did.
Your mentality has a lot to do with it. It a complete losers mentality like the losers that raised you to have it.
I didn't say it wasn't all that bad. I said it wasn't as bad as he thinks or what the record alone would normally indicate. The season is measured as a whole with no emotion by their unbiased metric.
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The metric I provided from Sports-Reference gives no consideration to ranking. It strictly based on numbers vs competition played and their numbers vs. who they played.
The unbiased source that I have provided repeatedly has the last two seasons as the toughest in school history.
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I never said that but it is a reality to be considered. Our 24-12 '25 season stacks up pretty evenly with our 26-8 '22 season is the point.
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It literally does though. Rankings are literally included on the page you referenced. That is also factored into SOS.
The point was if it is so much easier to turn things around in one year then it's disingenuous to claim he will set us back years even after he is removed. Whether or not he should have been hired is an entirely different debate but he was hired and now doing the revolving door is just not something I support barring extreme circumstance. If year 3 doesn't go better I will not complain if we decide to move on.
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Yeah. That’s fair. It can flip quickly if you’re good. No arguments from me there.
Then that defeats the claim that you need multiple elite scorers to compete at a high level which is the original claim that was not made by me. You either concede Davis, Lamb, Jones were elite scorers or you concede that you do not actually need elite scorers to win it all.
AP rank is not figured into the SRS rating I was referencing.It literally does though. Rankings are literally included on the page you referenced. That is also factored into SOS.
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Just because you have an affinity for being rude it does not lend credence to anything you say.
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I'm not the one pushing the preposterous notion that anything that occurred under Cal should affect the demands made on Pope. I never set out to criticize Cal. The poster I was debating with laid out the time frame including the year with no tourney.
What makes it an outlier is it is one example of a coach who succeeded at this vs. hundreds who haven't.What was outlier about it? He used NIL and the transfer portal. Did not everyone else have access to the same thing?
You're right highly competitive and successful people hate demanding situations and pressure!
Paul, you best save your time and ignore that fella. He’s extremely abrasive and doesn’t debate in good faith. You can systematically show him the inconsistency of his methodology and he’ll refuse to even acknowledge it.
Referring to @Praetorian Cat btw. Pointless to engage him.
The man has recruits laughing behind his back and other programs calling him out. I would say he’s an average coach and his resume says that’s pushing it, terrible at motivating players though
It also doesn't negate it either. It's not my fault you're sensitive nor is it the truths fault.
It's not really preposterous. He took over a program he knew had high demands and had not been achieving them for several years. He also knew he was being supplied with a high NIL package and advantages no previous coaches has in terms of buying a roster. If he didn't know he was taking over a pressure cooker situation with limited time to right the ship before it would be time to make a change. It’s not like he was hired based on past performance.
If I was sensitive I would have ignored your know nothing incorrigible act long ago.
Can you comprehend that his competition was also being supplied with NIL packages and advantages they have never had before? I'm not at all convinced that UK had the most to spend. All the arguing is pretty pointless anyway. Pope is here for a 3rd season no matter what we think of it.
Not at all. You're sitting here whining about it instead. That actually makes you look a lot more sensitive.
Most aren’t though. Most athletic programs were already operating at a loss before NIL and certainly can't keep up with the top tier of teams who actually do. We just spent 22 million to have 14 losses. Recruits are actively saying they are turning down higher offers from us to go elsewhere.
You choosing not to believe it doesn't make it untrue. It's coming from way too many places not to be.
What makes you think I am whining? You are the one pitching a fit about how things are going and demanding things that are out of our control. I am the one dealing with where we are at and hoping for better.