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Wasn’t it more like the court system that couldn’t see it?

It was lawsuits and judicial rulings that basically forced the NCAA into this predicament.

The ncaa had every opportunity years ago to get in front of this by allowing actual nil under the Olympic model. Everyone felt this wave coming. They were arrogant and refused to budge. Now we have insanity.
 

Blueworld_3.0

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I can almost guarantee you that UK will be one of the last major college athletes programs to eliminate sports that do not make a profit. The term "A day late and a dollar short" comes immediately to mind.
 

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This was bound to happen. Non revenue sports will be relegated to basically intramural club type status. Everyone warned of this and only the fools on charge couldn't see it.

In current state, its the right move. That's why its so funny insane Mitch was the sole opposition to a standard rev share, so he could give more money to non rev sports. It was insane and maybe even the straw that finally broke it for his tenure.

So you’re a huge socialism fan then?
 
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So then the WNBA players should get paid like the men?

Since you insist, your post is so way off the mark it isnt even in the same area code.

The root of everything wrong with modern college athletics is the runaway train they call nil. Literally every other negative turn came from that.

This outcome was totally avoidable. NCAA could've allowed the Olympic model and everyone would've been happy at least a reasonable amount of time PLUS it would've pulled the teeth from the legal arguments that ended up winning.

Instead the ncaa was greedy and arrogant, so we got what we got. This is all on them.
 

CatBearPig

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Since you insist, your post is so way off the mark it isnt even in the same area code.

The root of everything wrong with modern college athletics is the runaway train they call nil. Literally every other negative turn came from that.

This outcome was totally avoidable. NCAA could've allowed the Olympic model and everyone would've been happy at least a reasonable amount of time PLUS it would've pulled the teeth from the legal arguments that ended up winning.

Instead the ncaa was greedy and arrogant, so we got what we got. This is all on them.

The NCAA is clearly to blame. That has nothing to do with men’s basketball and football making billions and bankrolling whole athletic departments while the players got nothing. That was never going to be allowed forever and is by definition socialism.
 
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robman181

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Since you insist, your post is so way off the mark it isnt even in the same area code.

The root of everything wrong with modern college athletics is the runaway train they call nil. Literally every other negative turn came from that.

This outcome was totally avoidable. NCAA could've allowed the Olympic model and everyone would've been happy at least a reasonable amount of time PLUS it would've pulled the teeth from the legal arguments that ended up winning.

Instead the ncaa was greedy and arrogant, so we got what we got. This is all on them.
They used the Olympic model and it was shot down 9-0 in the Supreme Court. You can not run a sustained business in the USA based off of free labor. It's illegal.
 
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Wayne Dougan

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Sounds like Congress and the president both want to reform college athletics. I personally think college sports doesn't work in the NIL era. I'd be 100% fine with it going back to the old way. In my opinion, colleges have the absolute right to say must be an amateur athlete to play in their league.
 

CatBearPig

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Sounds like Congress and the president both want to reform college athletics. I personally think college sports doesn't work in the NIL era. I'd be 100% fine with it going back to the old way. In my opinion, colleges have the absolute right to say must be an amateur athlete to play in their league.

I certainly won’t argue your opinion because you have a right to it, but the Supreme Court does not agree with it.
 

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I wonder if VB breaks even or even makes money? They consistently draw good crowds.
AI brings good news and news I didn’t know
The University of Kentucky women's volleyball program is a high-performing, self-sustaining entity, with reported expenses and revenue balancing at approximately $2.43 million. As a premier program, it is among those prioritized for revenue-sharing funds in the 2025-26 season to support student-athletes, with the athletic department adjusting ticket prices for its matches.
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warrior-cat

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I would be fine with football, basketball, maybe baseball then how ever many women’s sports you need to comply with Title IX.
You would have women's, softball, basketball, and then girls' gymnastics (big business for towns and cities) to make the three. After that, maybe track and field for both (Olympic concerns). No more imo
 

warrior-cat

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It’s been the most known secret forever.
These sports leach off of major sports. And this is, IMO why the ncaa and schools didn’t want NIL.
That’s directly taking from the coffers when that 2.5 mil could have bought another basketball player.

The landscape of college sports has already drastically changed but it’s not even begun to settle. Football, basketball, and baseball are all that most schools are going to do in the future. To stay title 9 compliant they will offer softball, volleyball, etc but will keep it at a bare minimum.
However, once this stuff goes privatized or the schools make them employees I’m not sure how title 9 could be used anymore. The language in that isn’t set up to work with what’s going to happen.
Yeah, I forgot about volleyball so, softball, basketball, and volleyball for the women once/if they were to cut out other men's sports.
 
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They used the Olympic model and it was shot down 9-0 in the Supreme Court. You can not run a sustained business in the USA based off of free labor. It's illegal.

The decision itself that everyone cites to wasn't even a direct opinion on the matter. It was a clear warning shot and everyone acted. They never had the Olympic model. It was always just zero.

The House settlement is something else entirely and that's how we got revenue share.
 

robman181

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The decision itself that everyone cites to wasn't even a direct opinion on the matter. It was a clear warning shot and everyone acted. They never had the Olympic model. It was always just zero.

The House settlement is something else entirely and that's how we got revenue share.
That was the case that was brought before the Supreme Court. However, if you read the opinions of the justices, it's clear that the entire model is not legal. The Olympics is a single event every four years that doesn't prevent competition from forming, The NCAA is a monopoly. It's apples and oranges. I'm not arguing with what you want at all. I want the same thing. I'm just saying I dont see how it's possible.
 

Kats meow

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I wonder if this will jeopardize their standing in the SEC? Eliminating certain sports, that is.
 

Hitman206

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Kentucky sports mostly make money cuz we show up to watch.

The SEC logo is blue and white for a reason.


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UK and Vanderbilt are lucky they were already in the SEC because if they were like Oregon State the other major conferences wouldn't want them. They don't bring in major markets not football revenue.
 
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That was the case that was brought before the Supreme Court. However, if you read the opinions of the justices, it's clear that the entire model is not legal. The Olympics is a single event every four years that doesn't prevent competition from forming, The NCAA is a monopoly. It's apples and oranges. I'm not arguing with what you want at all. I want the same thing. I'm just saying I dont see how it's possible.

It wasn't. Its just a common misconception. The case was ncaa v alston. It was about a different subject matter labeled as educational benefits. Kavanaugh threw a blurb in (known as dicta) which everyone saw as writing on the wall and triggered everything else.

I do agree the courts need to get some common sense on the topic because they're a big part of the problem. Dicta from kavanaugh resulted in several wild decisions in other courts that basically ended with the NCAA being unable to apply any restrictions whatsoever.

The whole thing is a mess, but it could've all been stopped had the ncaa just allowed an Olympic model when they should've felt headwinds well against them
 
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It’s been the most known secret forever.
These sports leach off of major sports. And this is, IMO why the ncaa and schools didn’t want NIL.
That’s directly taking from the coffers when that 2.5 mil could have bought another basketball player.

The landscape of college sports has already drastically changed but it’s not even begun to settle. Football, basketball, and baseball are all that most schools are going to do in the future. To stay title 9 compliant they will offer softball, volleyball, etc but will keep it at a bare minimum.
However, once this stuff goes privatized or the schools make them employees I’m not sure how title 9 could be used anymore. The language in that isn’t set up to work with what’s going to happen.
The problem is it evolved quickly from name image and likeness to pay for play. Had they simply been able to make money off autographs, jersey sales and appearances like they wanted originally dating back to the Obannos it would be different. Maybe. Who knows. But this is crazy when you have college players making more than professionals. It simply isn’t sustainable. Professional sports needs a market correction.