Pope year 4?

[VC99]

The roster isn't finished yet... but Pope is building the roster how he should have his first or second year, it's almost like he thinks he will get a year 4 no matter what. What do you all think? Does Pope think he's here for a while? Wilkins(who i like) and N-Diaye(who I also like) are gambles and guys who usually blossom after 1 or 2 seasons at the power level but they are projected starters for this year. Still missing multiple stars to really move this team and Pope's tenure. Maybe he is waiting on the 5-for-5 for the bigger names but IMO we need 2 elite players.

 

[UKWildcats1987]

UKs administration is so inept he may have been promised a year 4 already. He sure hasn't earned one.

 

[I’m The Village Idiot]

Of course he believes he’s getting a year 4. And he should believe that. He’s going to need to show more of the promise he showed in year 1 and take it one notch further and he remains here. Best case scenario is and will continue to be: Pope killing it here.

 

[Loucatfan30]

Lets hope not

 

[Dead Cat Bounce]

He has to recruit as if year four is a given. But he has to deliver something impressive in 26-27.

 

[philstat]

As of right now, I barely expect this team to win half of their games, vast majority of which will be against inferior teams, we’re going to get embarrassed on live television against UL, Duke, etc., and across the conference.

 

[L.O.D.]

He shouldn't of had a year 3 . If the current AD favorites get job he WILL get year 4 no matter what . Pope has put together a BYU roster- REmind me how much success he had at BYU ?

 

[UKBB4Ever]

The roster isn't finished yet... but Pope is building the roster how he should have his first or second year, it's almost like he thinks he will get a year 4 no matter what. What do you all think? Does Pope think he's here for a while? Wilkins(who i like) and N-Diaye(who I also like) are gambles and guys who usually blossom after 1 or 2 seasons at the power level but they are projected starters for this year. Still missing multiple stars to really move this team and Pope's tenure. Maybe he is waiting on the 5-for-5 for the bigger names but IMO we need 2 elite players. Not one. One is settling and still not breaking through in terms of getting real Kentucky basketball hype going for next season.

He will be fired during the season next year. If not before.

year 4 is a pipe dream. The guy can’t coach.

 

[BlueBloodKyFan72]

As of right now, I barely expect this team to win half of their games, vast majority of which will be against inferior teams, we’re going to get embarrassed on live television against UL, Duke, etc., and across the conference.

Still ZERO elite scorers at any position we have bodies and unknowns

 

[dynastydreamuk]

I really didn't want a year 3 but I get it.

But to get a year 4, for me, he has to have atleast an elite 8 and no more than 9 or 10 loses with said elite 8. If he wins the SEC or SEC tournament and loses 2nd round or earlier, I really don't care for that result unless we only lost like 7 or less games all year and just got upset in the tournament but lots of ifs and scenarios....

Hopefully after year 3 it's an easy decision of like he lost 12 games we are moving on or he made the final four /elite 8 we are doing year 4... and not some in between crap like he loses 10 or 11 games but makes sweet 16 and came in 2nd /3rd place in SEC

 

[moses1uk]

He shouldn't of had a year 3 . If the current AD favorites get job he WILL get year 4 no matter what . Pope has put together a BYU roster- REmind me how much success he had at BYU ?

He shouldn't of had a year 3 . If the current AD favorites get job he WILL get year 4 no matter what . Pope has put together a BYU roster- REmind me how much success he had at BYU ?

He shouldn't of had a year 3 . If the current AD favorites get job he WILL get year 4 no matter what . Pope has put together a BYU roster- REmind me how much success he had at BYU ?

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In their first season in the Big 12 (2023–2024), Mark Pope led BYU to a 5th-place finish with a 10-8 conference record. Picked to finish 13th in the preseason, the Cougars finished 23-11 overall and earned a 6-seed in the NCAA Tournament.
BYU Daily Universe +3
Key 2023-24 Season Highlights:

• Conference Finish: 5th in the Big 12.
• Record: 23-11 overall, 10-8 in Big 12 play.
• Ranked Wins: Secured victories over ranked opponents including Kansas, Baylor, and Iowa State.

 

[UK BasketballFan]

Pope was hired 72 hours after Cal resigned and after Drew and Hurley turned Mitch down. How much vetting did Mitch do? You don’t hire a men’s basketball coach at the University of Kentucky because he is a former player here and a good guy. Mitch was lazy and didn’t do his homework and look what we have. I hope the university hires a competent AD and correct this six year mess our program has gone through.

 

[Praetorian Cat]

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In their first season in the Big 12 (2023–2024), Mark Pope led BYU to a 5th-place finish with a 10-8 conference record. Picked to finish 13th in the preseason, the Cougars finished 23-11 overall and earned a 6-seed in the NCAA Tournament.
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Key 2023-24 Season Highlights:

• Conference Finish: 5th in the Big 12.
• Record: 23-11 overall, 10-8 in Big 12 play.
• Ranked Wins: Secured victories over ranked opponents including Kansas, Baylor, and Iowa State.

Is this supposed to be in defense of Pope?

 

[Monday Nitro]

Still ZERO elite scorers at any position we have bodies and unknowns

How much do you and TF get paid per post? A nickel ?

 

[moses1uk]

Is this supposed to be in defense of Pope?

He asked what did he do at BYU . I answered . What’s your next ?

 

[UK4Life#9]

Pope really out here ruining little brother fans whole off season and I’m here for it!!!

Start of the summer, rosters not even complete for this upcoming year and we have little bro fans already scared for year 4 and starting nonstop threads.

 

[BlueBloodKyFan72]

How much do you and TF get paid per post? A nickel ?

Who are the ELITE scorers that can go get theirs at any point in the game. Don’t even try to use Wilkins because he averaged 17 at Furman against weak competition. He gets in foul trouble or ankle injury there isn’t t anyone to fill that role. You have to have a minimum of 2-3 ELITE scorers on the floor.

 

[TFCat11]

Between some fans going full Minneapolis Minnesota, the corrupt administration, and the boosters putting most of their eggs into football, it doesn’t matter how many years Pope gets!

Might as well keep him until he retires. UK’s men’s basketball program is on a ventilator as we speak, and the as for mentioned parties above are going to see it to its grave.

The UK basketball I grew up on is never coming back, that much I know.

All that’s needed now is for someone to start a thread entitled, “Bump This Thread When UK Sucks!”, and we are good to go!

 

[moses1uk]

Between some fans going full Minneapolis Minnesota, the corrupt administration, and the boosters putting most of their eggs into football, it doesn’t matter how many years Pope gets!

Might as well keep him until he retires. UK’s men’s basketball program is on a ventilator as we speak, and the as for mentioned parties above are going to see it to its grave.

The UK basketball I grew up on is never coming back, that much I know.

All that’s needed now is for someone to start a thread entitled, “Bump This Thread When UK Sucks!”, and we are good to go!

So if all fans would pray to Putin and join the pedo protector group everything would be great Got it

 

[Praetorian Cat]

He asked what did he do at BYU . I answered . What’s your next ?

So what did he do? What was accomplished?

 

[The Ganner]

Let's see how the roster construction finishes, and how the season turns out... way too many unknowns right now

 

[kyhankypanky]

The roster isn't finished yet... but Pope is building the roster how he should have his first or second year, it's almost like he thinks he will get a year 4 no matter what. What do you all think? Does Pope think he's here for a while? Wilkins(who i like) and N-Diaye(who I also like) are gambles and guys who usually blossom after 1 or 2 seasons at the power level but they are projected starters for this year. Still missing multiple stars to really move this team and Pope's tenure. Maybe he is waiting on the 5-for-5 for the bigger names but IMO we need 2 elite players. Not one. One is settling and still not breaking through in terms of getting real Kentucky basketball hype going for next season.

NO NO NO NO!!! The goal posts are not moving. Pope needs a final 4 type team. And even then, I would prefer we move on.

 

[moses1uk]

So what did he do? What was accomplished?

Picked 13th finished 5th in best conference is all

 

[peterpiper09]

The roster isn't finished yet... but Pope is building the roster how he should have his first or second year, it's almost like he thinks he will get a year 4 no matter what. What do you all think? Does Pope think he's here for a while? Wilkins(who i like) and N-Diaye(who I also like) are gambles and guys who usually blossom after 1 or 2 seasons at the power level but they are projected starters for this year. Still missing multiple stars to really move this team and Pope's tenure. Maybe he is waiting on the 5-for-5 for the bigger names but IMO we need 2 elite players. Not one. One is settling and still not breaking through in terms of getting real Kentucky basketball hype going for next season.

Wilkins is not a gamble
Ndiaye, have to wait and see but seems to bring a lot to the table

 

[Kantucke_rivals]

In my opinion, Pope was on the verge of not even getting a third year, saved only by Oweh's miraculous heave.

 

[I’m The Village Idiot]

Wilkins is not a gamble
Ndiaye, have to wait and see but seems to bring a lot to the table

I think you can argue Wilkins is a gamble.

I also think he has lottery pick written all over him if he fulfills his potential. Anyone not excited about him blows my mind.

 

[Anon1751335390]

Pope could reach the final 4 and have a top recruit lined up for the following season and a significant amount of fans will still want him out.

 

[kyhankypanky]

Of course he believes he’s getting a year 4. And he should believe that. He’s going to need to show more of the promise he showed in year 1 and take it one notch further and he remains here. Best case scenario is and will continue to be: Pope killing it here.

I am not sure about any of that.

Of course he believes he’s getting a year 4 - I suspect he knows he is in over his head and probably hates life.

He’s going to need to show more of the promise he showed in year 1 and take it one notch further and he remains here. I guess it depends how you define "take it one notch further." It's probably better to focus less on a yr 1 comparison and more objective outcomes this season. We need to be a top 5 this season or see ya. We are UK. We have the tradition, the fans, the $. That is our standard. No excuses.

Best case scenario is and will continue to be: Pope killing it here. Sure, in an abstract sense. But in terms of evaluating whether he should remain coach, our hopes have nothing to do with it. Honestly, this recruiting cycle is not going as well as it should to this point. Still time left, but underwhelming to this point. He is getting laughed at by opposing coaches. I do not want a fluky elite 8 run, then clamor to retain him, only to have 5 more seasons mired in mediocrity. Because that seems more than non-zero chance, I think we should avoid statements that we hope he succeeds. He does or he doesn't. Let's be completely objective. And so far, it's a no go for year 4.

 

[kyhankypanky]

Pope could reach the final 4 and have a top recruit lined up for the following season and a significant amount of fans will still want him out.

with good reason. but it's a ridiculous premise to begin with. we ain't making a final 4 next season or any with Pope.

 

[peterpiper09]

I think you can argue Wilkins is a gamble.

I also think he has lottery pick written all over him if he fulfills his potential. Anyone not excited about him blows my mind.

Argue away
I’m not gonna though
I’m fairly confident I know better

 

[I’m The Village Idiot]

I am not sure about any of that.

Of course he believes he’s getting a year 4 - I suspect he knows he is in over his head and probably hates life.

He’s going to need to show more of the promise he showed in year 1 and take it one notch further and he remains here. I guess it depends how you define "take it one notch further." It's probably better to focus less on a yr 1 comparison and more objective outcomes this season. We need to be a top 5 this season or see ya. We are UK. We have the tradition, the fans, the $. That is our standard. No excuses.

Best case scenario is and will continue to be: Pope killing it here. Sure, in an abstract sense. But in terms of evaluating whether he should remain coach, our hopes have nothing to do with it. Honestly, this recruiting cycle is not going as well as it should to this point. Still time left, but underwhelming to this point. He is getting laughed at by opposing coaches. I do not want a fluky elite 8 run, then clamor to retain him, only to have 5 more seasons mired in mediocrity. Because that seems more than non-zero chance, I think we should avoid statements that we hope he succeeds. He does or he doesn't. Let's be completely objective. And so far, it's a no go for year 4.

 

[peterpiper09]

Pope could reach the final 4 and have a top recruit lined up for the following season and a significant amount of fans will still want him out.

You’re correct
Unbelievable what people’s expectations are in a finger snap

 

[I’m The Village Idiot]

Argue away
I’m not gonna though
I’m fairly confident I know better

Bro. We (general public) only have three game films on the guy.

One exhibition against Alabama.
One early regular season game against High Point.
One NCAA tournament game against UConn.

Unless you’re paying tens of thousands of dollars for Synergy, you know just as much as the rest of us. A really small, but exciting sample size of full game film, highlight reels, Sport-Reference stats and breakdowns from others who do have Synergy. Those people, like Brandon Ramsey, are telling us he has flaws and there is some risk but very high reward.

People speak in definites far too much based on little to no specialized info

 

[Supafuzz75]

Sure he gets a year four if he gets a final four before year 4.. Anything less would be a failure..

 

[LarryLegend9]

I think you can argue Wilkins is a gamble.

I also think he has lottery pick written all over him if he fulfills his potential. Anyone not excited about him blows my mind.

Lottery pick? Wow.

 

[peterpiper09]

Bro. We (general public) only have three game films on the guy.

One exhibition against Alabama.
One early regular season game against High Point.
One NCAA tournament game against UConn.

Unless you’re paying tens of thousands of dollars for Synergy, you know just as much as the rest of us. A really small, but exciting sample size of full game film, highlight reels, Sport-Reference stats and breakdowns from others who do have Synergy. Those people, like Brandon Ramsey, are telling us he has flaws and there is some risk but very high reward.

People speak in definites far too much based on little to no specialized info

I ain’t a bro
I know the game fairly well IMO
Sometimes you don’t need 1000 games to watch

 

[I’m The Village Idiot]

I ain’t a bro
I know the game fairly well IMO
Sometimes you don’t need 1000 games to watch

Great. One of those you have to walk on eggshells around. “I’m not a bro.” Whatever dude. lol.

 

[BookofMormon]

It's a year to be very cautious with Pope - you give him the season and see how he executes on the roster build.

I have found the roster build to be sloppy and all over the place. I get slightly nausceous coming on here seeing the 67th recruit visiting, it tells me it's not part of a plan, just part of getting enough guys to field a team. It's been a laughingstock across college hoops - hell, even Ville can bring a guy in and close the deal.

I respect programs that are quiet about it and then before you know it, they have a signing. I've watched some of the top programs run - Dusty has pretty much nailed 2/3 guys he's targeted, Hurley has pretty much gotten every guy he's wanted quietly.

Then over here in Lex, we are bringing in volumes to kids to see who will stick. It's not a great sign, and not how the top programs are doing it. If he can magically pull together a winner (S16 minimum, Elite 8 ideal), then maybe you give him another year.

Torn on whether I hope he bombs or he wins.

 

[I’m The Village Idiot]

Lottery pick? Wow.

Yes lottery pick potential for sure. That doesn’t mean that’s extremely likely to materialize. List every skill you’d expect for a lottery pick guard and he has a bunch of them.

 

[Hughhefner]

Sure he gets a year four if he gets a final four before year 4.. Anything less would be a failure..

He gets to year 4 with a sweet 16 run. Because this adds an additional year to his contract and or buyout.