Mark Dope is being laughed at

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Do any of you ever take into consideration who you're agreeing with? This BBUK character has been on this board for one month, and made nothing but negative posts. (230 so far) . They came here to trash the team their handle indicates they're a fan of!
No TROLL4LIFE, rooting/hoping your team finds success doesn't make one stupid. But everything you are doing. All the hate you are spewing, does make you an obvious troll.

The 4Life should have given it away. C1L4
 

fisherscatfan

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Do any of you ever take into consideration who you're agreeing with? This BBUK character has been on this board for one month, and made nothing but negative posts. (230 so far) . They came here to trash the team their handle indicates they're a fan of!
No TROLL4LIFE, rooting/hoping your team finds success doesn't make one stupid. But everything you are doing. All the hate you are spewing, does make you an obvious troll.
I went to the source material to assess the content. The content is consistent with the results Pope has displayed in roster building.

Every UK fan, myself included, truly wants Pope to be successful because then UK is successful. His coaching record pre UK was average. There were concerns about his recruiting that were glossed over because “who wants to play for BYU with their religious restrictions“? Pope has not done much to put those doubts to rest and if things don’t change soon with Stokes and the portal it isn’t looking good. You may feel differently but a significant number of people are concerned and since this is a discussion board it is going to be discussed.

I have yet to hear a good reason why UK is doing it differently. I’m sure they have their reasons but who knows what they are. I’m not buying in to the Pope is weird etc as the main reason for recruiting woes. But is Pope reading the room right? Is he getting played by guys and missing out on others. Would a GM help with that focus? Is JMI a problem for basketball but not football, who has a GM? Why or why not? But fans get silence. So yes negativity is going to permeate when nothing positive is being communicated.
 

BookofMormon

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Who cares what other fan bases say? The entire time Cal was successful they called him a used car salesman and a cheat! How many years did the media spend writing articles claiming we paid Anthony Davis?
BUT, he had some things other fan bases were envious of - NBA star alum and exciting recruiting classes. It wasn't this circus.
 

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Lol it's not that big of a circus. If you get turned down by one guy don't settle go for something that'll fit your system. There is lots of players between here and overseas. Last year that is where he went wrong. I mean oats will take a killer, someone who is 80 if it'll go with their team. Golden will stalk girls and players to get them to commit.
 

ftp000

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I went to the source material to assess the content. The content is consistent with the results Pope has displayed in roster building.

Every UK fan, myself included, truly wants Pope to be successful because then UK is successful. His coaching record pre UK was average. There were concerns about his recruiting that were glossed over because “who wants to play for BYU with their religious restrictions“? Pope has not done much to put those doubts to rest and if things don’t change soon with Stokes and the portal it isn’t looking good. You may feel differently but a significant number of people are concerned and since this is a discussion board it is going to be discussed.

I have yet to hear a good reason why UK is doing it differently. I’m sure they have their reasons but who knows what they are. I’m not buying in to the Pope is weird etc as the main reason for recruiting woes. But is Pope reading the room right? Is he getting played by guys and missing out on others. Would a GM help with that focus? Is JMI a problem for basketball but not football, who has a GM? Why or why not? But fans get silence. So yes negativity is going to permeate when nothing positive is being communicated.
That's a fair assessment, and good questions. But most here are not as well researched as you are.
I'm not complaining mind you. They do entertain, and I enjoy sparing with them
 
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ftp000

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BUT, he had some things other fan bases were envious of - NBA star alum and exciting recruiting classes. It wasn't this circus.
It was worse IMO. Those last years..he underperformed with NBA talent to an embarrassing degree
 

fisherscatfan

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That's a fair assessment, and good questions. But most here are not as well researched as you are.
I'm not complaining mind you. They do entertain, and I enjoy sparing with them
You give me far too much credit lol. And the following comments are not directed at you in any way shape or form. More to “justify” my crotchety old man attitude.

I’m absolutely not a Matt Jones fan, but I do listen to get info to assess. I just get frustrated when people try to invalidate a point solely because of the source and not the accuracy.

Not being political but if Obama OR Trump either one found the cure for cancer there is a portion of EACH BASE that would whine they put oncologists out of work.
 

BookofMormon

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It was worse IMO. Those last years..he underperformed with NBA talent to an embarrassing degree
Still feels a lot better when you are a program kids want to be part of, rather than run away from. Cal always felt like one perfect recruiting class (Anthony Davis) away from making a run. Pope feels like he's one banana peel away from slipping on hid head.
 

ftp000

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Still feels a lot better when you are a program kids want to be part of, rather than run away from. Cal always felt like one perfect recruiting class (Anthony Davis) away from making a run. Pope feels like he's one banana peel away from slipping on hid head.
We'll all find out together
 
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I can't stand the ESPN dukie show promoting every thing Duke during the season and tournament. They take turns trying to disparage the sec and other conferences at first opportunity.I don't care about other coaches and fans ridiculing ky because they hate us anyway.
 

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I can't stand the ESPN dukie show promoting every thing Duke during the season and tournament. They take turns trying to disparage the sec and other conferences at first opportunity.I don't care about other coaches and fans ridiculing ky because they hate us anyway.
If several high profile coaches are laughing at Pope…and after this portal season, they definitely are if they weren’t before…you don’t think this negatively impacts recruiting even further?

“do you want to play for me, a natty winning coach with a history of putting guys in the NBA, or do you want to play for a dorky dude who will sub you out after 3 minutes of game time because a computer told him to? For a guy who will sit across from you at the table and tell you how beautiful you are?”
 
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If several high profile coaches are laughing at Pope…and after this portal season, they definitely are if they weren’t before…you don’t think this negatively impacts recruiting even further?

“do you want to play for me, a natty winning coach with a history of putting guys in the NBA, or do you want to play for a dorky dude who will sub you out after 3 minutes of game time because a computer told him to? For a guy who will sit across from you at the table and tell you how beautiful you are?”
My guess most of the guys being recruited are being done so by other coaches who also do things “because a computer told them to.”

Nate Oats: Come play for me because Pope uses analytics

Recruit: Uhhh yeah, aren’t you the guy who doesn’t allow players to shoot virtually any midrange shots because of analytics?
 

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My guess most of the guys being recruited are being done so by other coaches who also do things “because a computer told them to.”

Nate Oats: Come play for me because Pope uses analytics

Recruit: Uhhh yeah, aren’t you the guy who doesn’t allow players to shoot virtually any midrange shots because of analytics?
None of those guys will sub out a dude who is obviously cooking at the first tv timeout strictly for analytics, though. Pope will, has, and will continue to do that
 

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Pope tried last year to "out buy" the competition. Guess he is trying to "out dumb" them now. Watch it pay off just well enough for him to keep a job into year 4.
Pope couldn’t even do that right, he ended up over paying for bench players. When season starts and Rupp has a ton of empty seats maybe he will move on
 
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None of those guys will sub out a dude who is obviously cooking at the first tv timeout strictly for analytics, though. Pope will, has, and will continue to do that
You’re missing the forest of my point, because you’re looking at a tree. The point of analytics is to make inferences. Almost every top coach makes inferences based on analytics. Pope’s substitution patterns are an issue but it has nothing to do with a computer.
 

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Pope really should at least be on speaking terms with the sports media in Kentucky. He could use them to his advantage, on PR and recruiting.I have never seen a college basketball coach take this approach with the sports media.
Has there been a recent public sighting of Pope? Is a wellness check in order?
 

MachineHead

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You’re missing the forest of my point, because you’re looking at a tree. The point of analytics is to make inferences. Almost every top coach makes inferences based on analytics. Pope’s substitution patterns are an issue but it has nothing to do with a computer.
My point is that Pope doesn’t make inferences. If analytics say “x”, then he’s going to do “x”. He doesn’t just use it as a guide to influence his decision making. It makes his decisions for him.
 

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I don’t see anything scheduled on that day. Why then?
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Less than a year from now, we are all going to look back and remember Mitch/ AD basically had Billy Donovan standing on the porch with a big bow around his head, practically waiting for the job offer, but we instead all sat around our computers and discussed how the 5th option PF from New Guinea left the closing table without a commitment, only to have KU come in and make him Self’s replacement shortly thereafter!

Then we can spend the next year crying about how incompetent and corrupt UK’s administration is because they let it happen, because we can’t upset the woke members of BBN who couldn’t see past their idolatry of the underdog head coach, who “just has to have a 3rd season!”😩
There are zero facts that Mitch or UK had Donovan on the porch or even interested in coaching in Lexington. Where is it published that Billy D was ever considering coaching in Lexington or even Gainesville. Show me proff that our administration allowed anything to happen good or bad in regards to Billy Donovan. It there was any proof that Billy would even take a phone call from an opening at the college level. When Pope was hired, Billy D was most likely not inteested in any job other than coaching the Bulls. In all honesty, I doubt anyone on this board has a clue who was a considered coach as a Cal replacement. Does anyone know who Mitch contacted in his search for a coach. Have we heard of any coach say they were contacted or were offered the head basketball coach at the University of Kentucky? Is all the Oats, Pearl, Hurley, and Donovan as whiffs real or were those names just wishful thinking?
 

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Less than a year from now, we are all going to look back and remember Mitch/ AD basically had Billy Donovan standing on the porch with a big bow around his head, practically waiting for the job offer, but we instead all sat around our computers and discussed how the 5th option PF from New Guinea left the closing table without a commitment, only to have KU come in and make him Self’s replacement shortly thereafter!

Then we can spend the next year crying about how incompetent and corrupt UK’s administration is because they let it happen, because we can’t upset the woke members of BBN who couldn’t see past their idolatry of the underdog head coach, who “just has to have a 3rd season!”😩
WOKE MEMBERS OF BBN ???? Please explain your definition of WOKE?
 

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Well you have Oats making fun of Pope after a game and Golden doing it during a game. So yeah, they are for sure doing it behind the scenes.
Not to mention players on opposing teams stating in interviews that they knew we were soft and would fold if they dialed up the pressure. Not a great look for opponents to say that in interviews especially when they were right.
 
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They do
Louisville is worse off. 1 tournament win the last 2 years
People think our portal class was a bust
Wait till this time next season.
Louisville just taking anyone and it won't work
where do you see Louisville is just taking anyone? Looks like Kelsey is building his team with a plan in mind.