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AllBall

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That’s why I think our information from insiders sucks. Seems to me that the staff is Toxically Positive and can’t read a recruitment to save their lives. Probably why things alway go south. Most of them never intend to come and the staff puts out that they think they got them.
Exactly. That's why I keep preaching about staff learning to read a room. It's essential in recruiting. They also struggle to create any leverage for themselves.
 
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The only reason Mitch hired BCG was money. There was a big money booster that was friends with BCG that offered to pay his entire salary his first year here. Mitch couldn't get Cal, so he went with the free money - BCG. A friend told me that before BCG was hired, right after Tubby cashed his M$ longevity bonus and left in the night, and before anyone even mentioned BCGs name, AND I thought my friend was FOS. Everyone did. But he was right.
No contract. Just a Memorandum of Understanding on a napkin.
Mitch has quite the highlight reel.
 

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This is even more depressing to me. Now we can buy players and we have the money and nobody will even play for us. That is more depressing honestly.
I agree, and that's at the crux of my argument on BG vs P that some can't wrap their heads around. There's a sense of this program fading to irrelevance that's never been as prevalent as it is now.

Some unhinged loser calling me a turd isn't going to change Caleb Holt saying "UK has problems", recruits with no intention of coming here prostituting us for better NIL, and national media openly laughing at us.
 
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Stokes was just on TikTok or something. My son sent me the link and I don’t remember the name of the fan. Nobody that I know but as Stokes ended in the interview basically he said that guy is the biggest Kentucky fan there is. He seems to enjoy engaging with our fans in a way to build anxiety it doesn’t seem like a guy who’s gonna go to that school.
 
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Stokes was just on TikTok or something. My son sent me the link and I don’t remember the name of the fan. Nobody that I know but as Stokes ended in the interview basically he said that guy is the biggest Kentucky fan there is. He seems to enjoy engaging with our fans in a way to build anxiety it doesn’t seem like a guy who’s gonna go to that school.
Good stuff. Keep it coming!!!
 

notFromhere

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Cal was not even called. He said after Tubby left, and he got home from practice, he asked Ellen if Kentucky called and she told him no.

Yep. You're exactly right. My friend was told about BCG more than a month before Coach Smith left for the gopher job, but didn't tell anyone because his source told him not to until after he was gone. I had no idea who BCG was until he mentioned him being the next coach. I'm more of a football guy.

Seemed so random of a choice back then, but at least he had done something with his teams. Pope hadn't even come close to what Billy Clyde had done at his previous stops when MB hired him. I hoped for Pope's sake that MB saw something we didn't and that he'd be better than he was with UK behind him, but that hasn't happened so far.

MB getting a 950k per yr triple platinum umbrella to go with his retirement package is the big slap in the face everyone didn't see coming. I guess that's what happens when you know where the bodies are buried?
 

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They recovered and made the NCAA tournament. If Patrick Patterson had not been injured they could have made a run. They were playing well the end of the season.
We're not allowed to use injuries as an excuse on here.
Was Patterson injured when Gardner Webb, VMI and UAB beat us in Rupp?
Was patterson injured when Vandy smoked us by 41?
 
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This is even more depressing to me. Now we can buy players and we have the money and nobody will even play for us. That is more depressing honestly.
I don't think it's about money, I think Pope is telling these kids something that is turning them off.
If he's telling them that they will he getting subbed out often, he's getting what he deserves and we can't help him. That's a stupid hill to die on and that's exactly what will happen.
 
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We're not allowed to use injuries as an excuse on here.
Was Patterson injured when Gardner Webb, VMI and UAB beat us in Rupp?
Was patrerson injured when Vandy smoked us by 41?

Injuries certainly matter. Cost UK titles n 2015, 2014, 1997 off the top of my head.

Pope wasn't winning anything that matters if healthy but definitely would have a better overall record of mediocrity.
 

kyjeff1

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Pope has lost 26 games in 2 years.
Against the #3 and #4 SOS.
BCG lost 26 games against the 66th and 42nd SOS.
Pope also has 10 wins that are better than any win BCG ever had.
Don't get it twisted, both coaches suck, but Billy sucks so much worse.
 

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I agree, and that's at the crux of my argument on BG vs P that some can't wrap their heads around. There's a sense of this program fading to irrelevance that's never been as prevalent as it is now.

Some unhinged loser calling me a turd isn't going to change Caleb Holt saying "UK has problems", recruits with no intention of coming here prostituting us for better NIL, and national media openly laughing at us.
Fading into irrelevance? This.is the NIL and transfer portal era, that's just not possible.

Heck, you say Pope is a horrible coach, but just 2 years ago, Pope had zero players, or staff in mid April. He proceeded to beat 2 final 4 teams, beat Gonzaga, sweep Tennessee and get to a sweet 16.
If Pope sucks and he was able to do all that, doesn't that prove any program that wants to stay relevant, can easily do so?
 

kyjeff1

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Injuries certainly matter. Cost UK titles n 2015, 2014, 1997 off the top of my head.

Pope wasn't winning anything that matters if healthy but definitely would have a better overall record of mediocrity.
I'll translate:
"Injuries only matter for coaches not named Mark Pope."
"Pope lost his only pg, his lottery pick center and his starting sf, but in this case, it doesn't matter, because I don't like Mark Pope and I'm so mad".

Immaturity at its finest.

Also, injuries didn't cost UK titles in 97, 2014, or 2015. Are you seriously going to blame those losses on injuries? This is the first time I have seen anyone say the 2014 and 2015 losses were caused by injury. That_s complete horse crap. Cal caused those losses. 2014 lost the same way 2024 lost, they played scared and Cal never adjusted to stop an elite guard.
2015 was misding Alex Poythress, but that team still had more talent than anyone in the country and it wasn't close. Cal got in his own way again. Took the air out of the ball.

In 1997, that team was good enough to make it to the title game, so they had what they needed. Also, Derrick Anderson was cleared to play, Pitino chose not to play him.
 
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I agree, and that's at the crux of my argument on BG vs P that some can't wrap their heads around. There's a sense of this program fading to irrelevance that's never been as prevalent as it is now.

Some unhinged loser calling me a turd isn't going to change Caleb Holt saying "UK has problems", recruits with no intention of coming here prostituting us for better NIL, and national media openly laughing at us.
Why make up quotes?
 
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Why make up quotes?

Same reason he doesn't read anyone's posts. He's not reasonable. He's all over the place, attributing things to people that didn't say them, and jumping to irrational conclusions not supported by facts. He's a DA that thinks I "worship CMP" when I've clearly posted to the contrary.

He gets sht horribly wrong, says "my bad" when called out, and then goes right back to getting sht horribly wrong in the same way and using the same methods. He's like HAL in 2001:ASO. Somebody just programmed this bot to focus poorly on UK basketball.
 

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Against the #3 and #4 SOS.
BCG lost 26 games against the 66th and 42nd SOS.
Pope also has 10 wins that are better than any win BCG ever had.
Don't get it twisted, both coaches suck, but Billy sucks so much worse.
I assume you’re only talking about Kentucky results? Gillespie accomplished more at A&M than Pope did at BYU as in at least winning some tournament games and a top 10 national ranking on several occasions. Maybe not by much but he was actually more qualified to be here than Pope ever thought about. I actually believe Gillespie was a better coach than Pope. The UK job just completely ate him up, just like it’s doing to Pope.

And a small detail was also left out. That being Pope had $22 million at his disposal to go get whoever he wanted and look at what we got. Inexcusable!
 
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Yet Pope's team, playing a top 4 SOS, still made the NCAAT as a 7 seed while sweeping Tennessee and winning at Arkansas. In 2 years, BCG never had a single win over any team like UT and Arkansas.
Those 2 BCG season's were nightmares and if they were happening now, this place would be so much worse that it is now.
Vandy sucked and they beat BCG by 41 and you're saying they didn't quit? Did Vandy even make the tournament that year?
So it’s ok for Pope’s teams to quit?
 

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There is no comparing Pope and BCG. Doing so or arguing about it is nuts. Completely opposite ends of a poor choice spectrum. Neither should've been our coach and both clearly indicate MB has zero business being involved in choosing our UKMBB coaches or ADs going forward, and he shouldn't be given a million dollar, made up job for any reason.

This thread's been massively Hijacked, and I've contributed to it too long. I'm out.
 
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I think a lot of posters forget how bad the Tubby years were at times. Rondo was trashed on this board by those who supported Tubby. I posted a Danny Ainge quote in which DA said that Rondo would be a better pro than college player MANY on this board went nuts.

Rondo and several other players were not happy especially when Tubby took away their starting position in favor of those who did better in practice. I recall Rondo just "quitting" and seemingly looking for an exit ASAP.
I haven’t forgotten. Tubby was by far the worst coach ever at UK. Until now.

But even his teams did just stand and watch the other teams do a lay up line during the game.

There’s never been a UK player just pick up the ball and walk out of bounds with it down 25 points and then just shrug it off. Touch money!!

It’s unbelievable to me that some UK fans are accepting of not giving effort.

But apparently it’s ok as long as he’s better than BCG?
 
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I haven’t forgotten. Tubby was by far the worst coach ever at UK. Until now.

But even his teams did just stand and watch the other teams do a lay up line during the game.

There’s never been a UK player just pick up the ball and walk out of bounds with it down 25 points and then just shrug it off. Touch money!!

It’s unbelievable to me that some UK fans are accepting of not giving effort.

But apparently it’s ok as long as he’s better than BCG?
Tubby could coach circles around Pope and BCG. What the Hell are you talking about?
 
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I assume you’re only talking about Kentucky results? Gillespie accomplished more at A&M than Pope did at BYU as in at least winning some tournament games and a top 10 national ranking on several occasions. Maybe not by much but he was actually more qualified to be here than Pope ever thought about. I actually believe Gillespie was a better coach than Pope. The UK job just completely ate him up, just like it’s doing to Pope.

And a small detail was also left out. That being Pope had $22 million at his disposal to go get whoever he wanted and look at what we got. Inexcusable!
Why do we care what BCG did at aTm? How does that play into this?

Y'all are trying really REALLY hard to put a dress on a really stinky turd.
 

kyjeff1

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So it’s ok for Pope’s teams to quit?
No, we're just responding to your pathetic ways of trying to make Pope look as bad as BCG.

I mean, you still don't get it, you're actually hurting your case. Pope accomplished more, with a team that quit, against a much harder SOS, in a much tougher conference, than BCG did with a team that, in your opinion, didn't quit. This is the 3rd time I've explained this to you and you still keep coming back with the same crap. Read it again, slowly.

I mean, how far do you want to go with this narrative? You're trying so hard to make Pope look as bad as BCG, but the gap between the 2, is miles and all you have, is 6' of duct tape.
 

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No. PP was never going to play for Tubby. BCG worked his *** off to get PP here. Tubby tried to get him to go to Minnesota too.

If it was about Tubby he would have gone there.

Jordan was a BCG recruit too. He offered to follow BCG to Lexington. BCG said that wasn’t right.

BCG had a record of building programs. He had built 2 from nothing.

He was a hot hire. Arkansas thought they had hired him.

Barney didn’t do his job checking the off court stuff.

But Mitch also says he wanted to hire Cal then and Todd said no.

Todd backs that story.
Tubby recruited PP for nearly 2 years creating the relationship with himself and also UK. BCG recruited him maybe a month. He gets credit for the signing but there is no PP at UK without Tubby.

The rest of that stuff you posted was like you replied to the wrong post because my post was specifically about Tubby and PP.