Matt Jones says Stokes could announce today or tomorrow

notFromhere

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No. PP was never going to play for Tubby. BCG worked his *** off to get PP here. Tubby tried to get him to go to Minnesota too.

If it was about Tubby he would have gone there.

Jordan was a BCG recruit too. He offered to follow BCG to Lexington. BCG said that wasn’t right.

BCG had a record of building programs. He had built 2 from nothing.

He was a hot hire. Arkansas thought they had hired him.

Barney didn’t do his job checking the off court stuff.

But Mitch also says he wanted to hire Cal then and Todd said no.

Todd backs that story.

The only reason Mitch hired BCG was money. There was a big money booster that was friends with BCG that offered to pay his entire salary his first year here. Mitch couldn't get Cal, so he went with the free money - BCG. A friend told me that before BCG was hired, right after Tubby cashed his M$ longevity bonus and left in the night, and before anyone even mentioned BCGs name, AND I thought my friend was FOS. Everyone did. But he was right.
 

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I think he was hoping the length of time going back to those two BCG years would prevent anyone from fact checking, but those two teams gave up quite often.

They gave up in a senior night loss to UGA in his last game at Rupp. If we win that one, we make the tournament assuming we won a game in the SECT.

Billy kept Meeks and Patterson on the bench for long stretches in the second half of that must win game. My dad swore he lost that one on purpose in an effort to get fired.
 

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LMAO, Crawford was strongly considering transferring to Michigan State mid season. That sounds like quitting to me.

Also, your comment makes it so much worse for BCG too. Pope had a team that didn't like each other, had serious injuries and as you said, quit and that team STILL finished better than BCG's best team by a mile, while playing a schedule that was ranked 62 spots higher.
So you did see a BCG team just quit on games just like Pope’s?

BCG’s teams never lost a game because they didn’t try. Pope has lost many games because they didn’t even try to win.

I don’t really know what you’re trying to say unless it’s just OK to quit as long as you do better than BCG. Is that your position?
 

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I remember Ramel Bradly doing an interview about 10 years ago, he said him and Joe were sitting in Joe's car, waiting to go into practice, where they onew they were going to run until they puked. They seriously tjought about driving away and quitting.

That team lost 7 games at home, one of them was to Gardner Webb and apparently, they lost all those games without quitting. Tells me the coach sucked.
They didn’t even try not quit in games. Even Tubby, as bad as he was, never lost games because they just quit.

There’s never been UK teams that just quit in my lifetime until Pope. And it’s a regular thing with Pope.
 

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This is off topic but BCG lost to Vandy by 40 and they nearly double us up in the process. That was an absolute quit/laydown.
No it wasn’t. They never quit. Pitino lost to Kansas by 50. You think that team quit?
 

kyjeff1

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So you did see a BCG team just quit on games just like Pope’s?

BCG’s teams never lost a game because they didn’t try. Pope has lost many games because they didn’t even try to win.

I don’t really know what you’re trying to say unless it’s just OK to quit as long as you do better than BCG. Is that your position?
Yet Pope's team, playing a top 4 SOS, still made the NCAAT as a 7 seed while sweeping Tennessee and winning at Arkansas. In 2 years, BCG never had a single win over any team like UT and Arkansas.
Those 2 BCG season's were nightmares and if they were happening now, this place would be so much worse that it is now.
Vandy sucked and they beat BCG by 41 and you're saying they didn't quit? Did Vandy even make the tournament that year?
 
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kyjeff1

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They didn’t even try not quit in games. Even Tubby, as bad as he was, never lost games because they just quit.

There’s never been UK teams that just quit in my lifetime until Pope. And it’s a regular thing with Pope.
LOL, Tubby invented team turmoil. That team definitely quit and in BCG's 2 years, you can't possibly lose 26 games in 2 years without quitting.
Those 2 teams have some awful losses. Seriously, they lost to VMI in Rupp. Give me a break. You're seriously trying to defend BCG. Wow.
 

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LOL, Tubby invented team turmoil. That team definitely quit and in BCG's 2 years, you can't possibly lose 26 games in 2 years without quitting.
Those 2 teams have some awful losses. Seriously, they lost to VMI in Rupp. Give me a break. You're seriously trying to defend BCG. Wow.
I think a lot of posters forget how bad the Tubby years were at times. Rondo was trashed on this board by those who supported Tubby. I posted a Danny Ainge quote in which DA said that Rondo would be a better pro than college player MANY on this board went nuts.

Rondo and several other players were not happy especially when Tubby took away their starting position in favor of those who did better in practice. I recall Rondo just "quitting" and seemingly looking for an exit ASAP.
 

kyjeff1

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I think a lot of posters forget how bad the Tubby years were at times. Rondo was trashed on this board by those who supported Tubby. I posted a Danny Ainge quote in which DA said that Rondo would be a better pro than college player MANY on this board went nuts.

Rondo and several other players were not happy especially when Tubby took away their starting position in favor of those who did better in practice. I recall Rondo just "quitting" and seemingly looking for an exit ASAP.
So much time has passed that it's hard to remember just how bad it was.
I don't know about everyone else, but it's gonna be a long time before I forget those BCG years.
 
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Nice conspiracy theory, is that why the football team isn’t landing people too? Talk about an absolutely baseless claim.

You are an otherwise good poster, not sure why you’d go on a tangent about something that’s simply not factual.
Really what about JMI and football is set up differently than basketball. There’s no way we are offering more $ and getting none of the top targets. Mercenaries gonna take the $ every time.
 

notFromhere

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Both of them have a career high of S16. What exactly makes Pope better? BCG recruited Patterson, Liggins, and Meeks if I'm not mistaken?

Yea BCG sucked at UK. His S16 was elsewhere. But his recruits still played a large role in Calipari's initial success. It's not looking like Pope will have any such gifts to leave the next coach.

Didnt have them when he started here either.

What neither BCG nor Cal have EVER done is start with zero contributors on a roster when building their team, especially after NIL and poaching/tampering became essentially allowed. Tired of the morbid stupidity in these comparisons.
 

notFromhere

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Yet Pope's team, playing a top 4 SOS, still made the NCAAT as a 7 seed while sweeping Tennessee and winning at Arkansas. In 2 years, BCG never had a single win over any team like UT and Arkansas.
Those 2 BCG season's were nightmares and if they were happening now, this plave would be so much worse that it is now.
Vandy sucked and they beat BCG by 41 and you're saying they didn't quit? Did Vandy even make the tournament that year?

...and could you frickin imagine this place WORSE?! LMAO! That would be like Mrs Oleary's cow announcing a transfer AFTER the cow started the fire, and the entire city of Chicago turning on her.
 

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Didnt have them when he started here either.

What neither BCG nor Cal have EVER done is start with zero contributors on a roster when building their team, especially after NIL and poaching/tampering became essentially allowed. Tired of the morbid stupidity in these comparisons.
There was another guy who was in the same situation as your God and he literally won a title in 2 years. Miss me with that ********.

I'm buying the W/L arguments that Jeff and others have shared. The "Pope started with nothing" is a loser's argument.

Also, if you haven't noticed, he's trended down every summer. So go suck off your hero somewhere else.
 

notFromhere

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I think a lot of posters forget how bad the Tubby years were at times. Rondo was trashed on this board by those who supported Tubby. I posted a Danny Ainge quote in which DA said that Rondo would be a better pro than college player MANY on this board went nuts.

Rondo and several other players were not happy especially when Tubby took away their starting position in favor of those who did better in practice. I recall Rondo just "quitting" and seemingly looking for an exit ASAP.

Remember that time well.
 

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I thought this thread was about Stokes and his commitment. As usual it got high jacked into a "PopeSucks, UK Sucks" echo chamber. Does ANYBODY moderate this place.
Well he hasn't committed yet, so we may as well talk about something, genius.
 

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If Stokes is scared of Hawthorne, I don't know what to say. I can't imagine this happening in any universe or timeline.
 

notFromhere

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There was another guy who was in the same situation as your God and he literally won a title in 2 years. Miss me with that ********.

I'm buying the W/L arguments that Jeff and others have shared. The "Pope started with nothing" is a loser's argument.

Also, if you haven't noticed, he's trended down every summer. So go suck off your hero somewhere else.

Congrats. You really are a COMPLETE idiot, and an utter piece of trash as well. My God doesn't coach basketball you retarded turd blossom. I don't worship people like you do. I'm stating a fact that's uncomfortable for you, I get it.

Put that feces covered thumb back in your mouth now before you get your keyboard dirty. Don't want your mom to have to clean it for you.

Tell me sht stain which players of any quality Pope had on the roster when he was so unadvisedly hired.... and tell me where I have EVER worshipped this coach. Ask your mom to read you some of my posts, before you think about replying to another one with such a clueless, ridiculous, and completely nonsensical toddler tantrum. Then don't bother commenting because you're still an insufferable, knee-jerk poster.
 

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I remember Ramel Bradly doing an interview about 10 years ago, he said him and Joe were sitting in Joe's car, waiting to go into practice, where they onew they were going to run until they puked. They seriously tjought about driving away and quitting.

That team lost 7 games at home, one of them was to Gardner Webb and apparently, they lost all those games without quitting. Tells me the coach sucked.
They recovered and made the NCAA tournament. If Patrick Patterson had not been injured they could have made a run. They were playing well the end of the season.
 
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A lot of people are arguing that BCG, by being so bad, is actually better than Pope since we were able to fire BCG so quickly. It's like an NBA team. You'd rather tank and get a top draft pick than just be in no-man's land of barely making the playoffs with no real hope of advancing.
The only thing I don’t understand is BCG’s teams never seemed give up or not play hard. Last years team appeared to me that they did. Never seemed like a team except for a few games where they actually played together and quite well. Not putting that on Pope. Just seemed like they didn’t gel or give a crap. I’m not sure it just didn’t seem right most of the year. When it comes down to it the coach is responsible. When you’re being paid I’d expect effort not to be an issue. Something was obviously going on behind the scenes.
 
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The only reason Mitch hired BCG was money. There was a big money booster that was friends with BCG that offered to pay his entire salary his first year here. Mitch couldn't get Cal, so he went with the free money - BCG. A friend told me that before BCG was hired, right after Tubby cashed his M$ longevity bonus and left in the night, and before anyone even mentioned BCGs name, AND I thought my friend was FOS. Everyone did. But he was right.
Cal was not even called. He said after Tubby left, and he got home from practice, he asked Ellen if Kentucky called and she told him no.