Most embarrassing loss of the Fitz Era?

Most embarrassing loss of a Fitz-coached team?

  • 2006 vs Michigan State - biggest comeback of alltime

  • 2010 vs Wisconsin - a 70-23 beatdown in Madison

  • 2014 vs Iowa - a 48-7 loss to an average Iowa team

  • 2016 vs Tennessee (Outback Bowl) - can’t believe I traveled to see that

  • 2016 vs Illinois State - they wore us down for a 9-7 victory

  • 2018 vs Akron - yes, we lost to Akron during one of his “Big Ten West” championship years 😳

  • 2021 vs Nebraska - 56-7 loss vs Scott Frost

  • 2021 vs Illinois - 47-14 loss signaling the end of our dominance versus them

  • 2022 vs Southern Illinois - although we gave them a game

  • 2022 vs Miami (OH) - a bad MAC team dominated us


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CatManTrue

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Which loss was the most embarrassing of the Fitz coaching era (2006-2022)?

I almost didn’t include the 2006 loss since it was his first season - but man it was bad.

Another interesting thing is how the losses seemed to get worse overtime.
 

CatManTrue

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Throw in WMU because it was on my daughter's wedding day, and now we have to look at PJs punchable face.
I didn’t include them because it was a very close one and they went undefeated.

It is a great question though: would we have to deal with PJ Fleck in the B1G if Fitz hadn’t blown that one?
 

CatManTrue

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HOLY HEARTBURN, BATMAN!
How i felt making this poll:

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CatManTrue

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Bumping this because the offseason is slow and we could get some fresh votes 🗳️
 

hdhntr1

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Which loss was the most embarrassing of the Fitz coaching era (2006-2022)?

I almost didn’t include the 2006 loss since it was his first season - but man it was bad.

Another interesting thing is how the losses seemed to get worse overtime.
MSU was bad because how it happened but considering it was Ftiz first year in a position he was thrust into,,,,,,,,

How about New Hampshire in 2006 34-17? Not even listed on the poll. But it was his second game being HC and that NH team did go 9-4.

But 2006 also had the win at Iowa that showed that he was gonna be around a while.

Most unforgivable was likely SIU but that NU team did turn out to be pretty bad
 
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hdhntr1

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I didn’t include them because it was a very close one and they went undefeated.

It is a great question though: would we have to deal with PJ Fleck in the B1G if Fitz hadn’t blown that one?
It did not belong in the list
 

hdhntr1

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They were numbing as a fan to live through.

2006 New Hampshire was particularly awful to watch live. I didn’t include it but Fitz losing to a 5-5 UNH team was a harbinger of things to come.
The team ended up with a 9-4 record
 

hdhntr1

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The Army loss needs to be on the list. We played like we thought it was our patriotic duty to throw that game ... DOA.
Didn't that Army team have a pretty funky offense that it was pretty difficult to prepare for? Army only played 4 home games that year and won 3 of them (their only three wins), Did not win any on the road, Had to wonder why we played them there
 
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Didn't that Army team have a pretty funky offense that it was pretty difficult to prepare for? Army only played 4 home games that year and won 3 of them (their only three wins), Did not win any on the road, Had to wonder why we played them there
Army still ran the triple option but they were absolute AWFUL back then. IIRC they went 2-10 and we were one of the two wins.

Their pass defense was soft but of course Fitz stuck with Kain instead of Trevor, and they kept stuffing the box against the run. Absolutely awful loss.
 

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Zips. I was chatting with some of them before the game and they said they were hoping they could hold us to 40 points.
 
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I can forgive the 2010 loss to a top 5 Wisconsin team that played in the Rose Bowl because that was after Persa's injury. Evan Watkins was the starting QB. The Wrigley loss to Illinois the game before was more disheartening, letting Leshoure run for over 300 yards. The last 3 games of that season (including the bowl) were probably the worst the defense ever performed under Hank.
 

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Army still ran the triple option but they were absolute AWFUL back then. IIRC they went 2-10 and we were one of the two wins.

Their pass defense was soft but of course Fitz stuck with Kain instead of Trevor, and they kept stuffing the box against the run. Absolutely awful loss.
I think they had 3 that year and all three were among their 4 home games
 

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I can forgive the 2010 loss to a top 5 Wisconsin team that played in the Rose Bowl because that was after Persa's injury. Evan Watkins was the starting QB. The Wrigley loss to Illinois the game before was more disheartening, letting Leshoure run for over 300 yards. The last 3 games of that season (including the bowl) were probably the worst the defense ever performed under Hank.
I have a hard time faulting Hank on that, the time of possession in the game was 41:18-18:42. In the first half we had drives of 0:53 (fumble), 2:33 (fumble), 0:56 (interception), 0:12 (touchdown), 1:27 (punt), 1:24 (FG), and 3:29 (touchdown). We were only losing by 3, but Illinois had the ball for 19:06. In the second half, we went 1:25 (3 and out punt), 1:35 (3 and out punt), 2:07 (punt), 2:06 (sad FG) and 0:35 (end of game). 22:12-7:48 Illinois in possession.
 
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Loss to Duke. Forgetting the year. Had we won they would have then been the "biggest losing streak of all time" team. And the loss to MSU. Gotta give credit to MSU, they were coming off a tough loss the week before to Notre Dame and John L Smith could easily have "lost the team" when they were down by a ton to us but those guys showed character and came back to win. Gotta tip my cap to them for that.
 

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Loss to Duke. Forgetting the year. Had we won they would have then been the "biggest losing streak of all time" team. And the loss to MSU. Gotta give credit to MSU, they were coming off a tough loss the week before to Notre Dame and John L Smith could easily have "lost the team" when they were down by a ton to us but those guys showed character and came back to win. Gotta tip my cap to them for that.
I believe you’re referring to the 2007 Duke loss. That was a particularly jarring one as it also cost us a bowl bid (we finished 6-6 like Iowa and sat at home).

I’m sure UMess or someone will “beat the streak” at some point.
 

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I have a hard time faulting Hank on that, the time of possession in the game was 41:18-18:42. In the first half we had drives of 0:53 (fumble), 2:33 (fumble), 0:56 (interception), 0:12 (touchdown), 1:27 (punt), 1:24 (FG), and 3:29 (touchdown). We were only losing by 3, but Illinois had the ball for 19:06. In the second half, we went 1:25 (3 and out punt), 1:35 (3 and out punt), 2:07 (punt), 2:06 (sad FG) and 0:35 (end of game). 22:12-7:48 Illinois in possession.
Agreed. The one highlight of that game was Trumpy’s late long TD run.

Talk about an ominous start to our “residence” at Wrigley. Never again!
 

hdhntr1

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Loss to Duke. Forgetting the year. Had we won they would have then been the "biggest losing streak of all time" team. And the loss to MSU. Gotta give credit to MSU, they were coming off a tough loss the week before to Notre Dame and John L Smith could easily have "lost the team" when they were down by a ton to us but those guys showed character and came back to win. Gotta tip my cap to them for that.
That MSU coach was always great at having that special trick play and he was very successful in using them against us
 

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That MSU coach was always great at having that special trick play and he was very successful in using them against us
You’re taking about John L Smith.

And, no, he was known for slapping himself in the face and blowing leads at MSU until he had the 35 point comeback against us. Not trick plays. 😆

He was then fired and replaced by Dantonio.

Per Wikipedia:

Michigan State began 2006 with three wins and then suffered an infamous late-game loss against Notre Dame. The Spartans led 37–21 midway through the fourth quarter, but, despite a raging thunderstorm, the Irish rallied for a 40–37 victory. This led to a now-famous video of John L. Smith slapping himself at the post-game press conference.[18]

The following week, Michigan State's homecoming game, the Spartans were defeated 23–20 by an Illinois team that had not won a Big Ten game since 2004. After the game, players from both teams fought at midfield after several Illinois players tried to plant their flag at midfield of Spartan Stadium. In the post-game press conference, Smith admitted the coaches were having trouble motivating the players. Smith also slapped himself in the face as a reference to a claim by Notre Dame head coach Charlie Weis who stated that he had been hit in the face during a sideline scrum earlier that season when his Fighting Irish played Michigan State.

Following another defeat to Michigan, Michigan State hosted and lost 38–7 to top-ranked Ohio State. At halftime, Spartan Stadium had mostly emptied, with a large portion of the remaining attendees being Ohio State fans.

MSU followed up those losses with a 41–38 win at Northwestern. The Spartans, down 38–3 in the middle of the third quarter, rallied for 38 unanswered points for the largest comeback in NCAA history. The Spartans then fell to Indiana the following week.

On November 1, Michigan State decided not to retain John L. Smith, and the remainder of his contract was bought out for $1.5 million.[19]Smith and his coaching staff stayed on the job through the end of the 2006 season.
 

hdhntr1

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You’re taking about John L Smith.

And, no, he was known for slapping himself in the face and blowing leads at MSU until he had the 35 point comeback against us. Not trick plays. 😆

He was then fired and replaced by Dantonio.

Per Wikipedia:

Michigan State began 2006 with three wins and then suffered an infamous late-game loss against Notre Dame. The Spartans led 37–21 midway through the fourth quarter, but, despite a raging thunderstorm, the Irish rallied for a 40–37 victory. This led to a now-famous video of John L. Smith slapping himself at the post-game press conference.[18]

The following week, Michigan State's homecoming game, the Spartans were defeated 23–20 by an Illinois team that had not won a Big Ten game since 2004. After the game, players from both teams fought at midfield after several Illinois players tried to plant their flag at midfield of Spartan Stadium. In the post-game press conference, Smith admitted the coaches were having trouble motivating the players. Smith also slapped himself in the face as a reference to a claim by Notre Dame head coach Charlie Weis who stated that he had been hit in the face during a sideline scrum earlier that season when his Fighting Irish played Michigan State.

Following another defeat to Michigan, Michigan State hosted and lost 38–7 to top-ranked Ohio State. At halftime, Spartan Stadium had mostly emptied, with a large portion of the remaining attendees being Ohio State fans.

MSU followed up those losses with a 41–38 win at Northwestern. The Spartans, down 38–3 in the middle of the third quarter, rallied for 38 unanswered points for the largest comeback in NCAA history. The Spartans then fell to Indiana the following week.

On November 1, Michigan State decided not to retain John L. Smith, and the remainder of his contract was bought out for $1.5 million.[19]Smith and his coaching staff stayed on the job through the end of the 2006 season.
You are right it was Dantonio that was the trick play guy. But I thought I remembered a trick play in that game
 
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I think people forgot that every single coach since John Pont has had very embarrassing losses. That is our history and trying to single out any of them dismisses the fact that it will always be a struggle to win consistently at Northwestern. The only thing we should note is that the football program has shown progress with each coach after Rick Venturi having a better winning percentage than the coach before them. Braun is an exception (his percentage is below Fitz), but he only has had 3 seasons, two of which he got to a bowl game. Trying to make Fitz look bad just ignores our history. Let’s just close that book and move on to more meaning discussions.
 

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I think people forgot that every single coach since John Pont has had very embarrassing losses. That is our history and trying to single out any of them dismisses the fact that it will always be a struggle to win consistently at Northwestern. The only thing we should note is that the football program has shown progress with each coach after Rick Venturi having a better winning percentage than the coach before them. Braun is an exception (his percentage is below Fitz), but he only has had 3 seasons, two of which he got to a bowl game. Trying to make Fitz look bad just ignores our history. Let’s just close that book and move on to more meaning discussions.
There were several highs with Fitz, but even more incredible lows.

This list could have been 15 or 20 games long. Let us be grateful that Braun is harder to outcoach.
 

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I think people forgot that every single coach since John Pont has had very embarrassing losses. That is our history and trying to single out any of them dismisses the fact that it will always be a struggle to win consistently at Northwestern. The only thing we should note is that the football program has shown progress with each coach after Rick Venturi having a better winning percentage than the coach before them. Braun is an exception (his percentage is below Fitz), but he only has had 3 seasons, two of which he got to a bowl game. Trying to make Fitz look bad just ignores our history. Let’s just close that book and move on to more meaning discussions.
Good post, JG. (y)
 
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Good post, JG. (y)
Once everyone has voted then I agree we can shut it down.

Until that day, we should encourage our fellow NU fans to vote. I was going to resuscitate the “best win of the Fitz era” poll I started at the same time but won’t bother now.
 

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I think people forgot that every single coach since John Pont has had very embarrassing losses. That is our history and trying to single out any of them dismisses the fact that it will always be a struggle to win consistently at Northwestern. The only thing we should note is that the football program has shown progress with each coach after Rick Venturi having a better winning percentage than the coach before them. Braun is an exception (his percentage is below Fitz), but he only has had 3 seasons, two of which he got to a bowl game. Trying to make Fitz look bad just ignores our history. Let’s just close that book and move on to more meaning discussions.
I agree with the sentiment of the post, but what's weird about our history is that there were times that our BIG10 recruits couldn't just over power far lesser programs that had far fewer athletes than us. I stand by my choice of the Zips loss because we gave up 21 points on two pick-sixes and a fumble at their goal line. Then allowed a scoring pass from Kato Nelson, who I'm sure isn't in the NFL.
 
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JustGary

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I agree with the sentiment of the post, but what's weird about our history is that there were times that our BIG10 recruits couldn't just over power far lesser programs that had far fewer athletes than us. I stand by my choice of the Zips loss because we gave up 21 points on two pick-sixes and a fumble at their goal line. Then allowed a scoring pass from Kato Nelson, who I'm sure isn't in the NFL.
I agree that there are games early in the season where we did not appear ready. I’m just saying it has happened throughout our last 50 years. I can pick out at least 5-10 games that were embarrassing for every coach. If you want a list, let me know. I sat through a lot of very bad games.