Will Rutgers Move on From Schiano

MADHAT1

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Some fans are calling for this, but I feel it will only happen if boosters are willing to put up big bucks for his buyout
of between $18-19 million
>“If you understand how important Schiano is to the program, you understand how BOLD this prediction is. The problem Schiano faces is that the Knights are only 31-41 in this second stint and have made a bowl game three times in six seasons (and one of those was with a 5-7 record). That includes a mark of 15-39 in the Big Ten. This year’s schedule does Rutgers few favors. They’ll play Indiana, USC, Michigan, and Penn State. Sportsbooks have their win total posted at 4.5, which seems reasonable. If they play to expectations, I can see Rutgers deciding it’s time to move on after the season ends.“ <

 

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RUTGERS95

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Some fans are calling for this, but I feel it will only happen if boosters are willing to put up big bucks for his buyout
of between $18-19 million
>“If you understand how important Schiano is to the program, you understand how BOLD this prediction is. The problem Schiano faces is that the Knights are only 31-41 in this second stint and have made a bowl game three times in six seasons (and one of those was with a 5-7 record). That includes a mark of 15-39 in the Big Ten. This year’s schedule does Rutgers few favors. They’ll play Indiana, USC, Michigan, and Penn State. Sportsbooks have their win total posted at 4.5, which seems reasonable. If they play to expectations, I can see Rutgers deciding it’s time to move on after the season ends.“ <

his importance is over stated now. He was important, needed, and the right man for the job. the job now requires someone else with different skillsets

can him and move on
 

Fat Koko

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If Greg is fired today, his buyout totals $21.8 million through the end of his contract in February 2030. If Greg is fired after this season, say on 12/31/26, his buyout is $18.4 million.

TKR posters write this is insurmountable. It is not.

Paying Greg and his staff not to coach at Rutgers would cost around $6 million per year through 2030.

Bringing in a new staff with a budget of the B1G median of $23 million + $5 million for the so-called Rutgers tax. That is $28 million.

Rutgers would actually reduce its football staff spending by deleting Greg et al. Football ticket sales revenue would likely rise by several million per year too.

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If Greg is fired today, his buyout totals $21.8 million through the end of his contract in February 2030. If Greg is fired after this season, say on 12/31/26, his buyout is $18.4 million.

TKR posters write this is insurmountable. It is not.

Paying Greg and his staff not to coach at Rutgers would cost around $6 million per year through 2030.

Bringing in a new staff with a budget of the B1G median of $23 million + $5 million for the so-called Rutgers tax. That is $28 million.

Rutgers would actually reduce its football staff spending by deleting Greg et al. Football ticket sales revenue would likely rise by several million per year too.

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Anybody have an understanding of why we pay so much more for "support staff" than the other teams? @Fat Koko ?
 

RU#1fan

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If Greg is fired today, his buyout totals $21.8 million through the end of his contract in February 2030. If Greg is fired after this season, say on 12/31/26, his buyout is $18.4 million.

TKR posters write this is insurmountable. It is not.

Paying Greg and his staff not to coach at Rutgers would cost around $6 million per year through 2030.

Bringing in a new staff with a budget of the B1G median of $23 million + $5 million for the so-called Rutgers tax. That is $28 million.

Rutgers would actually reduce its football staff spending by deleting Greg et al. Football ticket sales revenue would likely rise by several million per year too.

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Hobbs.. the Gift that keeps on giving.
 

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If Greg has a poor year and we are not in a bowl- he is most likely gone. A new coach getting us to 10 wins and possibly a playoff >>>> then Greg and staff buyout
 

RUTGERS95

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Anybody have an understanding of why we pay so much more for "support staff" than the other teams? @Fat Koko ?
no and no one is asking him that in relation to the performance. that's a failure of media and fans right there. It's something I watching with Keli as she needs to spend smartly, not like this
 
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Pils86

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At a minimum, nepo hires 69-71 shouldn’t be there at all.
I look at this as a test for Zinn. She should have told Schiano one son max and cut the staff way back, leave money for NIL. Schiano learned from Paterno what its like to be the exalted FB HC, but that guy won stuff and built a library. Zinn needs to put her foot down on his money grab for family and friends, he's got no leverage.
 

MADHAT1

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Anyways 9 wins season incoming
Then he stays and I'll not complain.
I'm a big Greg supporter, but if 2026 is another losing season ,I won't be disappointing to see him go.
I feel Schiano has the ability of ,awking RU FB a respectable program, but not have the coaching chops to make RU into a very good program.
So now if after the 7th year in the G2 era Rutgers doesn't prove to be on the way to being very good ( 9 wins a year) it might be time to find someone that can do it,
If Greg goes 7-5 I will not be complaing if he returns, but will be against any extension until he makes RU a 9 win team.
 
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MADHAT1

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I look at this as a test for Zinn. She should have told Schiano one son max and cut the staff way back, leave money for NIL. Schiano learned from Paterno what its like to be the exalted FB HC, but that guy won stuff and built a library. Zinn needs to put her foot down on his money grab for family and friends, he's got no leverage.
Schiano wins he should be able to hire anyone he chooses.
If he can't field a winning team, his hiring practice should be an after thought because he should be let gp and his replacement could keep the all in family members or bring in his own. people to replace them

Schiano learned from the pervert protector in the beginning of his coaching career though Paterno's role in building a library that was named after him doesn't make up for the harm he allowed as a HC in order to reach exalted status . Greg was just doing some on the job training at Penn State which helped him learn what it takes and he also learned from others after leaving PSU.
The "Stache" tutored him in Chicago , but Greg might have benefited the most from working with Butch Davis on Miami and refined his skills a more under Urban at Ohio State
 

koleszar

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If Greg has a poor year and we are not in a bowl- he is most likely gone. A new coach getting us to 10 wins and possibly a playoff >>>> then Greg and staff buyout
So, Rutgers is going to eat a Pike huge buyout plus assistants and a Schiano huge buyout plus assistants and pay for new coaching staff in both sports all in one year?

Let's face it, Pike's a goner with what he's pulling in, in the portal and not shaking up the staff at all. We're talking well over $30 mil. in just buyouts. Well never see this happen, the outcry would be deafening. Plus, this article is nothing but speculation on a slow day. It just so happens Rutgers, especially for CBS, is an easy target for a negative article.
 

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I have hoped for more from Schiano over the years, but you'd think Rutgers fans would have a greater appreciation for what he's done here when compared to the "unimpressive" choices RU has made for their head football coach job over the years since Anderson and the move to "big-time". A good number of them would make any list of Worst College Football Head Coaches Ever.
 

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If he keeps hiring his program will be too big to fail. We won’t be able to afford to buy out all of these people. Those that advocated for Greg doing whatever he wants with no oversight were insane. This is what it leads to. Keli has already told him no for certain things. She won’t let this continue.
 

RUTGERS95

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If he keeps hiring his program will be too big to fail. We won’t be able to afford to buy out all of these people. Those that advocated for Greg doing whatever he wants with no oversight were insane. This is what it leads to. Keli has already told him no for certain things. She won’t let this continue.
don't be so sure as she had last year's results to push through some changes and didn't. his staff isn't reduced, his budget wasn't reduced and he still has his kids on the payroll.

only at Rutgers would you have half the board thinking it's insane and he's untouchable in year 7 after the evidence of how bad he is.

Keeping Greg tells me that Tate and Keli won't be successful where it matters most. Too many excuses for football.
 

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I have hoped for more from Schiano over the years, but you'd think Rutgers fans would have a greater appreciation for what he's done here when compared to the "unimpressive" choices RU has made for their head football coach job over the years since Anderson and the move to "big-time". A good number of them would make any list of Worst College Football Head Coaches Ever.
I agree with you. Schiano has done pretty good here considering we have been playing in a champagne conference on a beer budget.
His staff works their *** off. He has the making of a pretty prolific offense too.
There are a lot of questions on the defense.

The biggest question here though, if they were to let Schiano go.Who would they hire?
I am relegated to the fact, we are at a serious financial disadvantage. Our fanbase is pretty good but pales in comparison to some of our competition.
Schiano or any coach here really has their work cut out for them.
That being said I think we will all know when/if it’s time. Now is not the time.
Personally I think if he has a QB and and the D figures a few things out he’s going to have a pretty good year.

As far as you assessment of our other coaches? Graber almost had it figured out here. I think he was closer than people gave him credit for. Shea and Ash were busts.
Flood took a big gamble and lost!
 

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Purdue, Northwestern, Minnesota, Illinois, Indiana most years, Maryland and some others were some historically weak B1G teams and Rutgers is in that bin. The "big game" people still talk about is 20 years ago. The big and consistently successful teams came from schools that emphasize football A LOT. Rutgers isn't a football university like the others. Maybe the new admins would like to make it one but that's not a small job or a short post.

Schiano does a lot of things right but offense isn't one of them. Its beyond contention that RU's offensive philosophy is a detriment. Monsters in between the 20s and elves in red zone every year. Other teams even make note of it in their scouting


".. the extra parts are baffling to the both of us -- is that Rutgers gets stopped completely dead in the redzone. They can look amazing between the 20s but as soon as they cross the opponent’s 20 yardline (actually I can pinpoint where the per-play effectiveness and a-EPA begins its collapse at the 31), everything falls apart. This includes things which are totally maddening to observe, like o-line blocking grades, which makes no sense (it’s the defense in the trenches that’s supposed to get fatigued on long drives, not the offense), and Rutgers’ preternatural 2nd & long passing game which goes from a +7 percentage point overperformance compared to 1st & 10 (itself kind of weird) outside the redzone to a mind-bogglingly terrible 16% 2nd & long success rate inside the redzone.

Numerically, the offense goes from a 57.6% per-play efficiency between the 20s to a 44.1% efficiency inside the 20. A small part of that is a falloff in rushing efficiency, by about four points -- fairly natural, as defenses compress -- while the major part is that passing efficiency collapses an astonishing 21 percentage points, from 57.8% outside to 36.8% inside.

As such, Rutgers has only converted 16 of its 27 meaningful redzone trips in FBS play to touchdowns, a 59.3% rate. For context, global efficiency is usually coincidental enough for F+ advanced statistics that having a 70% redzone touchdown conversion rate goes hand-in-hand with a top-30 ranking. That’s basically true this year (it’s actually top 33, the service academies are hyperefficient outliers), but there are four teams who are F+ darlings outside the redzone and so are highly rated offenses in that system, but are under 61% in redzone efficiency and so my model is very skeptical of them finishing the season strong: Illinois, Kansas, Texas Tech … and Rutgers."

Duck Tape: Film Analysis of Rutgers Football 2025​

A preview of Oregon’s week 8 opponent in Piscataway


WASHINGTON 2025

"After Duff’s initial touchdown catch on the first possession, Rutgers returned to the red zone five more times and scored just six points combined, the two aforementioned Jai Patel field goals"


ILLINOIS

Rutgers’ underperforming offense struggles once again vs. Illinois: ‘We always leave something out there’​



This red zone problems goes back to pre iPhone days - not even Ray Rice could help


2007 UConn

"The individual offensive numbers look like something from a video game. Rutgers will likely finish this season with two 1,000-yard receivers for the first time in school history, with a 3,000-yard passer and, most likely, with a 1,600-yard rusher. Yet there were the Knights, settling for five field goal tries in six red zone trips against Connecticut on Saturday (making four) while managing just one touchdown."

Ledger: Pale in the red zone​



EVERY YEAR ITS THE SAME THING (UConn 2007 to Oregon 2025) and its not mostly on the players. Greg CANT DO red zone no matter the OC or players. He needs an intervention - rub his nose in it like a puppy that keeps peeing in the house. The stats are out there for anyone who wants them. There have been ADs who called for new schemes from coaches
 
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RU#1fan

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don't be so sure as she had last year's results to push through some changes and didn't. his staff isn't reduced, his budget wasn't reduced and he still has his kids on the payroll.

only at Rutgers would you have half the board thinking it's insane and he's untouchable in year 7 after the evidence of how bad he is.

Keeping Greg tells me that Tate and Keli won't be successful where it matters most. Too many excuses for football.
This.
A 23% Winning Percentage in your Conference after 6 years gets you fired at any CFB program in America except Rutgers. Go 5-7 or worse in 2026 and Schiano must go. Otherwise the fan base will continue to dwindle.
 

Knight Shift

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don't be so sure as she had last year's results to push through some changes and didn't. his staff isn't reduced, his budget wasn't reduced and he still has his kids on the payroll.

only at Rutgers would you have half the board thinking it's insane and he's untouchable in year 7 after the evidence of how bad he is.

Keeping Greg tells me that Tate and Keli won't be successful where it matters most. Too many excuses for football.
IDK if it is half the board. Probably less.
If squad doesn’t make a bowl game - his seat better be warm !

Tare and Zinn do not accept mediocrity !
You are correct.
He must notch at least 8 wins this season or next season, otherwise, he will be gone.

Rutgers will never fire Schiano… EVER. @Richie O knowledge has convinced me of that.

Thats why he hires 25 more “staff” members than legit Bluebloods like Ohio State.
I respectfully disagree. Pres. Tate and Keli Zinn do not accept mediocrity. He is getting his chance this year, and perhaps next.

I agree with you. Schiano has done pretty good here considering we have been playing in a champagne conference on a beer budget.
His staff works their *** off. He has the making of a pretty prolific offense too.
There are a lot of questions on the defense.

The biggest question here though, if they were to let Schiano go.Who would they hire?
I am relegated to the fact, we are at a serious financial disadvantage. Our fanbase is pretty good but pales in comparison to some of our competition.
Schiano or any coach here really has their work cut out for them.
That being said I think we will all know when/if it’s time. Now is not the time.
Personally I think if he has a QB and and the D figures a few things out he’s going to have a pretty good year.

As far as you assessment of our other coaches? Graber almost had it figured out here. I think he was closer than people gave him credit for. Shea and Ash were busts.
Flood took a big gamble and lost!
This "who would we hire" and "nobody but Greg can get "it" done at Rutgers" (not your words) perpetuate acceptance of mediocrity, which should be unacceptable.

Look no further than what Bielema accomplished at Illinois.

And Illinois was in equal or worse shape than Rutgers under Ash when Bielema took over:

2012Illinois2–100–86th (Leaders)
2013Illinois4–81–75th (Leaders)
2014
2015
Illinois6–7
5-7
3–5
3-5
5th (West)
5th West
L Heart of Dallas


2016Illinois3–92–76th (West)
2017Illinois2–100–97th (West)
2018Illinois4–82–77th (West)
2019Illinois6–74–54th (West)L Redbox
2020Illinois2–5*2–5*7th (West)
Illinois:17–3910–33*Fired after seven games
 
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RUTGERS95

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I agree with you. Schiano has done pretty good here considering we have been playing in a champagne conference on a beer budget.
His staff works their *** off. He has the making of a pretty prolific offense too.
There are a lot of questions on the defense.

The biggest question here though, if they were to let Schiano go.Who would they hire?
I am relegated to the fact, we are at a serious financial disadvantage. Our fanbase is pretty good but pales in comparison to some of our competition.
Schiano or any coach here really has their work cut out for them.
That being said I think we will all know when/if it’s time. Now is not the time.
Personally I think if he has a QB and and the D figures a few things out he’s going to have a pretty good year.

As far as you assessment of our other coaches? Graber almost had it figured out here. I think he was closer than people gave him credit for. Shea and Ash were busts.
Flood took a big gamble and lost!
if Graber had a 1/10th of the support that Greg has, he'd of changed the course of Rutgers football.
 
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RUTGERS95

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Purdue, Northwestern, Minnesota, Illinois, Indiana most years, Maryland and some others were some historically weak B1G teams and Rutgers is in that bin. The "big game" people still talk about is 20 years ago. The big and consistently successful teams came from schools that emphasize football A LOT. Rutgers isn't a football university like the others. Maybe the new admins would like to make it one but that's not a small job or a short post.

Schiano does a lot of things right but offense isn't one of them. Its beyond contention that RU's offensive philosophy is a detriment. Monsters in between the 20s and elves in red zone every year. Other teams even make note of it in their scouting


".. the extra parts are baffling to the both of us -- is that Rutgers gets stopped completely dead in the redzone. They can look amazing between the 20s but as soon as they cross the opponent’s 20 yardline (actually I can pinpoint where the per-play effectiveness and a-EPA begins its collapse at the 31), everything falls apart. This includes things which are totally maddening to observe, like o-line blocking grades, which makes no sense (it’s the defense in the trenches that’s supposed to get fatigued on long drives, not the offense), and Rutgers’ preternatural 2nd & long passing game which goes from a +7 percentage point overperformance compared to 1st & 10 (itself kind of weird) outside the redzone to a mind-bogglingly terrible 16% 2nd & long success rate inside the redzone.

Numerically, the offense goes from a 57.6% per-play efficiency between the 20s to a 44.1% efficiency inside the 20. A small part of that is a falloff in rushing efficiency, by about four points -- fairly natural, as defenses compress -- while the major part is that passing efficiency collapses an astonishing 21 percentage points, from 57.8% outside to 36.8% inside.

As such, Rutgers has only converted 16 of its 27 meaningful redzone trips in FBS play to touchdowns, a 59.3% rate. For context, global efficiency is usually coincidental enough for F+ advanced statistics that having a 70% redzone touchdown conversion rate goes hand-in-hand with a top-30 ranking. That’s basically true this year (it’s actually top 33, the service academies are hyperefficient outliers), but there are four teams who are F+ darlings outside the redzone and so are highly rated offenses in that system, but are under 61% in redzone efficiency and so my model is very skeptical of them finishing the season strong: Illinois, Kansas, Texas Tech … and Rutgers."

Duck Tape: Film Analysis of Rutgers Football 2025​

A preview of Oregon’s week 8 opponent in Piscataway


WASHINGTON 2025

"After Duff’s initial touchdown catch on the first possession, Rutgers returned to the red zone five more times and scored just six points combined, the two aforementioned Jai Patel field goals"


ILLINOIS

Rutgers’ underperforming offense struggles once again vs. Illinois: ‘We always leave something out there’​



This red zone problems goes back to pre iPhone days - not even Ray Rice could help


2007 UConn

"The individual offensive numbers look like something from a video game. Rutgers will likely finish this season with two 1,000-yard receivers for the first time in school history, with a 3,000-yard passer and, most likely, with a 1,600-yard rusher. Yet there were the Knights, settling for five field goal tries in six red zone trips against Connecticut on Saturday (making four) while managing just one touchdown."

Ledger: Pale in the red zone​



EVERY YEAR ITS THE SAME THING (UConn 2007 to Oregon 2025) and its not mostly on the players. Greg CANT DO red zone no matter the OC or players. He needs an intervention - rub his nose in it like a puppy that keeps peeing in the house. The stats are out there for anyone who wants them. There have been ADs who called for new schemes from coaches
Greg is no defensive guru either. I posted all the data on the round table and he's only 5 defenses in the top 50 in 18yrs. Most years he's between 80-95. He feasts on non p4 teams

I'd gladly take some of the success of Purdue, Illinois and even Northwestern has had vs us clinging to one game 20+yrs ago.

If Tate and Keli are as good as people want to believe they are, Greg has go yesterday, not tomorrow. He's a fking disaster in 2.0
 

Knight Shift

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Greg is no defensive guru either. I posted all the data on the round table and he's only 5 defenses in the top 50 in 18yrs. Most years he's between 80-95. He feasts on non p4 teams

I'd gladly take some of the success of Purdue, Illinois and even Northwestern has had vs us clinging to one game 20+yrs ago.

If Tate and Keli are as good as people want to believe they are, Greg has go yesterday, not tomorrow. He's a fking disaster in 2.0
Both of them are smart. They know they would be swimming against the big donor tide. They are giving Greg all the resources available, and it is sink or swim. Greg knows this too that he has perform one of the next two years. He is not naive. Will say this much. Whoever takes over the program will take over a program that is primed for success. No rebuild needed.
 

Fat Koko

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If he keeps hiring his program will be too big to fail. We won’t be able to afford to buy out all of these people. Those that advocated for Greg doing whatever he wants with no oversight were insane. This is what it leads to. Keli has already told him no for certain things. She won’t let this continue.

Greg's 2019 contract set limits on staff spending. See clause below.

Hobbs and the Rutgers board of governors waived those limits and allowed Greg unlimited access to cash with no accountability for achieving results. Bad governance. That is why Rutgers is #2 in B1G on football staff spending but near bottom in conference on wins and ticket sales. The football program is more about Schiano, his friends, and family than players, fans, and winning.

I expect Tate and Keli to end this nonsense. However, Richie said two weeks ago Greg is here to stay and even gets another contract extension with a 6-6 season. That would suck.


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RUTGERS95

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Greg's 2019 contract set limits on staff spending. See clause below.

Hobbs and the Rutgers board of governance waived those limits and allowed Greg unlimited access to cash with no accountability for achieving results. Bad governance. That is why Rutgers is #2 in B1G on football staff spending but near bottom in conference on wins and ticket sales. The football program is more about Schiano, his friends, and family than players, fans, and winning.

I expect Tate and Keli to end this nonsense. However, Richie said two weeks ago Greg is here to stay and even gets another contract extension with a 6-6 season. That would suck.


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and show they are not who many think they are. would be an epic fail in the only sport that truly matters.