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  • Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2025 (H.R. 24) — Full audit of the Fed. Introduced January 3, 2025.
  • Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act (H.R. 1846 or earlier versions like H.R. 8421 in 118th) — To end the Federal Reserve. Introduced March 5, 2025 (recent version).
  • WHO Withdrawal Act (H.R. 54, cosponsor) — US exit from the World Health Organization. Introduced January 3, 2025.
  • To terminate the Department of Education (H.R. 899) — Ends the federal Dept of Education. Introduced January 31, 2025 (reintroduced multiple times, e.g., 2023).
  • NATO Act (H.R. 6508) — Limits or audits US involvement with NATO. Introduced 2025.
  • Restoring America’s Leadership in Innovation Act (H.R. 5811) — Patent law reform to boost US innovation. Introduced 2025 (recurring).
  • Repeal the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act (H.R. 5704) — Ends government propaganda allowances for domestic audiences. Introduced 2025.
  • Surveillance State Repeal Act — Repeals PATRIOT Act and FISA Amendments Act. Original version introduced March 19, 2015 (recurring).
  • Amendment against warrantless "backdoor" searches of Americans' data — Passed House in 2014.
  • National Constitutional Carry Act (H.R. 645) — Nationwide constitutional carry for firearms. Introduced January 23, 2025.
  • Safe Students Act — Repeals the Gun-Free School Zones Act. Recurring (e.g., 2022 version).
  • Second Amendment Protection Act — Allows medical marijuana users to own guns. Recurring.
  • War Powers resolutions (e.g., H.Con.Res. 38) — Remove US forces from unauthorized hostilities (Iran, Venezuela, etc.). Example: June 17, 2025.
  • No Immunity for Glyphosate Act (H.R. 7601) — Removes legal immunity for glyphosate makers. Introduced February 20, 2026.
  • Tax Free Tips Act — No taxes on tips. Version in 118th: June 18, 2024.
  • Proposals for congressional term limits and balanced budget amendment support — Ongoing, no single date.

Kentucky-Benefiting (Agriculture & Food Freedom)​


These remove federal rules that hit small farms hard in Kentucky (hemp, raw milk, local meat).


  • Industrial Hemp Farming Act (H.R. 525 and earlier versions) — Respects state hemp laws and removes federal barriers. First major introduction February 6, 2013 (recurring; key amendment passed in 2014 Farm Bill).
  • Interstate Milk Freedom Act of 2026 (H.R. 7880) — Allows raw milk to cross state lines. Introduced March 9, 2026 (recurring since 2014).
  • PRIME Act (Processing Revival and Intrastate Meat Exemption, e.g., H.R. 4700 in 119th) — Lets states allow custom-slaughtered meat sales within the state. Introduced July 23, 2025 (recurring since ~2015; helps KY livestock farmers).
 

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You can stop pretending you are a Libertarian. There's plenty of Libertarians that don't agree with what Massey does. You support him because he fights with Trump on issues that allows Democrats to become stronger and take advantage of our weaknesses. If he was a stronger Libertarian on National Defense the left wouldn't be defending him.







The Congressman with his finger in his nose, gets the boot. They overthrew the government, rigged the election, unleashed a bioweapon on the world, framed and impeached an innocent man multiple times, lawfare'd him for a decade, and tried to assassinate him — repeatedly, because he stood up for us. Many of the same conspirators rigged the system, paved the way to weaponize every lever of power against the President and his supporters are sitting right next to you in Congress. You sat there while they imported millions of military-age men, funded their invasion, showered them with benefits, and turned them into weapons to wreck our country from inside — draining resources, committing fraud, rigging the census, and blocking Agenda 47 at every turn. You let it all happen, they got away with it for years, because you have “principles.” Newsflash dumbass: They don’t. You’re trying to win a fencing match alone while a mob of corrupt, morally bankrupt uniparty saboteurs shows up to the fight with grenades. And we’re supposed to risk everything betting on you? GTFOH, you useless tool. America is in a war for its soul — good versus evil — with bodies dropping in the streets, and you’re standing there preening, “Look at me, I’m so principled.” America doesn't need your principles right now, America needs a bounty hunter with a flamethrower, a wrecking ball, and fire extinguisher who truly understands what the Presidents objectives are and clears the way for him to meet those objectives. Lines have been drawn and crossed and you are just in the way, saying your helping.
 

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You can stop pretending you are a Libertarian. There's plenty of Libertarians that don't agree with what Massey does. You support him because he fights with Trump on issues that allows Democrats to become stronger and take advantage of our weaknesses. If he was a stronger Libertarian on National Defense the left wouldn't be defending him.







The Congressman with his finger in his nose, gets the boot. They overthrew the government, rigged the election, unleashed a bioweapon on the world, framed and impeached an innocent man multiple times, lawfare'd him for a decade, and tried to assassinate him — repeatedly, because he stood up for us. Many of the same conspirators rigged the system, paved the way to weaponize every lever of power against the President and his supporters are sitting right next to you in Congress. You sat there while they imported millions of military-age men, funded their invasion, showered them with benefits, and turned them into weapons to wreck our country from inside — draining resources, committing fraud, rigging the census, and blocking Agenda 47 at every turn. You let it all happen, they got away with it for years, because you have “principles.” Newsflash dumbass: They don’t. You’re trying to win a fencing match alone while a mob of corrupt, morally bankrupt uniparty saboteurs shows up to the fight with grenades. And we’re supposed to risk everything betting on you? GTFOH, you useless tool. America is in a war for its soul — good versus evil — with bodies dropping in the streets, and you’re standing there preening, “Look at me, I’m so principled.” America doesn't need your principles right now, America needs a bounty hunter with a flamethrower, a wrecking ball, and fire extinguisher who truly understands what the Presidents objectives are and clears the way for him to meet those objectives. Lines have been drawn and crossed and you are just in the way, saying your helping.

I agree so much with this post Massie is a good man, he’s a WVian, and crazy intelligent. But, like I’ve said about other libertarians, they pick the fight with the wrong people and ultimately end up enabling worse damage to occur because they decided to with their brother instead of the person robbing the house.
 

Gunny46

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I agree so much with this post Massie is a good man, he’s a WVian, and crazy intelligent. But, like I’ve said about other libertarians, they pick the fight with the wrong people and ultimately end up enabling worse damage to occur because they decided to with their brother instead of the person robbing the house.

I know plenty of Libertarians that don't agree with the route some Libertarians are taking. Their policies aren't going to work anyways if people don't stop the radical left and their allies overseas. At best what they are rooting for leads to a Civil War. One where they don't control the military and they get bombed milking the cow. Who bombs them is the only question in the equation.


 
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I have defended Massie in the past but when you start to sound like this moron I draw the line and advise him to get it together.




We don't need him to be Lindsey Graham. Just understand necessary **** that's gone on for decades is being delt with. It involves China and the CCP the most. As everything being done involves shipping routes and CCP belt to road initiative. Starting below the border all the way to Iran and Indonesia.





Secretary of War Pete Hegseth welcomed his Indonesian counterpart — Defense Minister Sjafrie Sjamsoeddin — to the Pentagon today, where the two men announced the establishment of the Major Defense Cooperation Partnership between the two countries.
 
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Can we all agree that Chris Murphy is a turd.





European Countries to include Britain and France. That's how.






Undocumented Americans aren't Americans dummy they are illegal aliens. If they had done it the right way then it wouldn't be such a problem.
 
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  • Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2025 (H.R. 24) — Full audit of the Fed. Introduced January 3, 2025.
  • Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act (H.R. 1846 or earlier versions like H.R. 8421 in 118th) — To end the Federal Reserve. Introduced March 5, 2025 (recent version).
  • WHO Withdrawal Act (H.R. 54, cosponsor) — US exit from the World Health Organization. Introduced January 3, 2025.
  • To terminate the Department of Education (H.R. 899) — Ends the federal Dept of Education. Introduced January 31, 2025 (reintroduced multiple times, e.g., 2023).
  • NATO Act (H.R. 6508) — Limits or audits US involvement with NATO. Introduced 2025.
  • Restoring America’s Leadership in Innovation Act (H.R. 5811) — Patent law reform to boost US innovation. Introduced 2025 (recurring).
  • Repeal the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act (H.R. 5704) — Ends government propaganda allowances for domestic audiences. Introduced 2025.
  • Surveillance State Repeal Act — Repeals PATRIOT Act and FISA Amendments Act. Original version introduced March 19, 2015 (recurring).
  • Amendment against warrantless "backdoor" searches of Americans' data — Passed House in 2014.
  • National Constitutional Carry Act (H.R. 645) — Nationwide constitutional carry for firearms. Introduced January 23, 2025.
  • Safe Students Act — Repeals the Gun-Free School Zones Act. Recurring (e.g., 2022 version).
  • Second Amendment Protection Act — Allows medical marijuana users to own guns. Recurring.
  • War Powers resolutions (e.g., H.Con.Res. 38) — Remove US forces from unauthorized hostilities (Iran, Venezuela, etc.). Example: June 17, 2025.
  • No Immunity for Glyphosate Act (H.R. 7601) — Removes legal immunity for glyphosate makers. Introduced February 20, 2026.
  • Tax Free Tips Act — No taxes on tips. Version in 118th: June 18, 2024.
  • Proposals for congressional term limits and balanced budget amendment support — Ongoing, no single date.

Kentucky-Benefiting (Agriculture & Food Freedom)​


These remove federal rules that hit small farms hard in Kentucky (hemp, raw milk, local meat).


  • Industrial Hemp Farming Act (H.R. 525 and earlier versions) — Respects state hemp laws and removes federal barriers. First major introduction February 6, 2013 (recurring; key amendment passed in 2014 Farm Bill).
  • Interstate Milk Freedom Act of 2026 (H.R. 7880) — Allows raw milk to cross state lines. Introduced March 9, 2026 (recurring since 2014).
  • PRIME Act (Processing Revival and Intrastate Meat Exemption, e.g., H.R. 4700 in 119th) — Lets states allow custom-slaughtered meat sales within the state. Introduced July 23, 2025 (recurring since ~2015; helps KY livestock farmers).


 

Gunny46

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It's a stupid talking point from those that don’t understand the big picture or live in fantasy land.


They do what the CCP tells them.




NOW: President Trump CONFIRMS that Israel did NOT manipulate him into a war with Iran "Israel never talked me into the war with Iran, the results of Oct. 7th, added to my lifelong opinion that IRAN CAN NEVER HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON, did." "I watch and read the FAKE NEWS Pundits and Polls in total disbelief. 90% of what they say are lies and made up stories, and the polls are rigged, much as the 2020 Presidential Election was rigged." "Just like the results in Venezuela, which the media doesn’t like talking about, the results in Iran will be amazing - And if Iran’s new leaders (Regime Change!) are smart, Iran can have a great and prosperous future!"


That's because they had to call the CCP to get orders.





IRGC COMMANDER CONTROLS NEGOTIATIONS Despite Iran having a "Supreme Leader," a COMMANDER of the IRGC apparently has supreme power! JD Vance said it last time: the Iranian officials who negotiate in Pakistan didn't have the AUTHORITY to even finalize a deal
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"He's the senior most Commander there, the most influential position in the regime." "...Iranian political officials currently negotiating with the US [reportedly] do not have the authority to independently determine Iran's negotiating position." RET. GEN. JACK KEANE: "They have the guns." 47 is not going to screw around.


They do have the guns. They got them from the CCP and some from Russia.
 
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Gunny46

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We need to test where they got the uranium and I don't want to hear it's home grown.


 

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Politics shouldn't be a loyalty test
debate and argue ideas and drop your party arguments
also this specific debate has had 0 debates because Massie's opponent refuses to debate ideas and is only there because he supports a foreign country when Massie does not
 

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Politics shouldn't be a loyalty test
debate and argue ideas and drop your party arguments
also this specific debate has had 0 debates because Massie's opponent refuses to debate ideas and is only there because he supports a foreign country when Massie does not

Massie has been using foreign countries propaganda about what has happened from South America all the way to China. Crying about drug boats getting bombed when that poison has killed millions of Americans while raising money for more terrorists groups was beyond moronic.

If you want to grow some weed with your tomato plants take it up with your local law enforcement. There's bigger fish being fried right now and nobody wants to hear his stupid *** talking points right now. It's a big world with alot of evil people trying to kill our citizens and destroy our country. Maybe he should go back to his farm and let others handle all this. He can have his utopia there until our enemies show up to take it.
 

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Massie has been using foreign countries propaganda about what has happened from South America all the way to China. Crying about drug boats getting bombed when that poison has killed millions of Americans while raising money for more terrorists groups was beyond moronic.

If you want to grow some weed with your tomato plants take it up with your local law enforcement. There's bigger fish being fried right now and nobody wants to hear his stupid *** talking points right now. It's a big world with alot of evil people trying to kill our citizens and destroy our country. Maybe he should go back to his farm and let others handle all this. He can have his utopia there until our enemies show up to take it.

Him and his new friend can go sit in the corner for now.






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HOLY CRAP! Rep. Ro Khanna (D-CA) just got MIC DROPPED on national television BARTIROMO: Are you suggesting OBAMA's leadership on Iran was better? KHANNA: Yes! BARTIROMO: "There were 14 wire transfers to a Swiss account linked to Hezbollah. Between 2014 and 2016, that was a total of $1.7 billion. The same $1.7 billion, he told Congress, was frozen Iranian assets. There was a backchannel to Tehran through Valerie Jarrett, active for 2012 to 2024." "This was after he left office. So it was almost like a shadow government! He also sent pellets of CASH in a plane to Iran." "Now, why would you send money to Iran KNOWING that they are building a nuclear weapon and they are the leading sponsor of terrorism?!" BRUTAL.
 
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Massie isn’t better for the **** he posts online. He’s better because he has principles and actually stands by them instead of playing party politics.
Calling him a useless tool for having a spine is exactly the uniparty game we should be fighting against. The system is corrupt as hell, but ditching principles to win out of fear of what the other party will do just turns us into the same corrupt machine we’re supposed to hate. We need more politicians like Massie, not fewer.
 

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Massie isn’t better for the **** he posts online. He’s better because he has principles and actually stands by them instead of playing party politics.
Calling him a useless tool for having a spine is exactly the uniparty game we should be fighting against. The system is corrupt as hell, but ditching principles to win out of fear of what the other party will do just turns us into the same corrupt machine we’re supposed to hate. We need more politicians like Massie, not fewer.
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Uniparty.
 

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Hopefully it's not laced with something that can kill you selling it to minors.









It must be the Midterms because that didn't happen.


 

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Politics shouldn't be a loyalty test
debate and argue ideas and drop your party arguments
also this specific debate has had 0 debates because Massie's opponent refuses to debate ideas and is only there because he supports a foreign country when Massie does not
It would be great if we lived in a world of line item vetos and being able to vote solely on the issue at hand. That’s not the world we live in, and Massie acting like it is causes more damage to what he and his constituents want than going along with the “party he belongs to”. So, to your point about a loyalty test, he’s a member of the party, it is a fvcking loyalty test, or leave the party and go register as a libertarian or independent with the rest of the idealistic poors.

he takes party money, he votes with the party. That’s the deal. Stop being so naive.
 

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Someone tell these two idiots to walk those girls down to a police department to file criminal charges under oath or STFU with playing games. Are we really to believe Khanna didn't know about Swalwell.








My kind of broad….the good ones like being choked out.
 
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National-Level​


  • Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2025 (H.R. 24) — Full audit of the Fed. Introduced January 3, 2025.
  • Federal Reserve Board Abolition Act (H.R. 1846 or earlier versions like H.R. 8421 in 118th) — To end the Federal Reserve. Introduced March 5, 2025 (recent version).
  • WHO Withdrawal Act (H.R. 54, cosponsor) — US exit from the World Health Organization. Introduced January 3, 2025.
  • To terminate the Department of Education (H.R. 899) — Ends the federal Dept of Education. Introduced January 31, 2025 (reintroduced multiple times, e.g., 2023).
  • NATO Act (H.R. 6508) — Limits or audits US involvement with NATO. Introduced 2025.
  • Restoring America’s Leadership in Innovation Act (H.R. 5811) — Patent law reform to boost US innovation. Introduced 2025 (recurring).
  • Repeal the Smith-Mundt Modernization Act (H.R. 5704) — Ends government propaganda allowances for domestic audiences. Introduced 2025.
  • Surveillance State Repeal Act — Repeals PATRIOT Act and FISA Amendments Act. Original version introduced March 19, 2015 (recurring).
  • Amendment against warrantless "backdoor" searches of Americans' data — Passed House in 2014.
  • National Constitutional Carry Act (H.R. 645) — Nationwide constitutional carry for firearms. Introduced January 23, 2025.
  • Safe Students Act — Repeals the Gun-Free School Zones Act. Recurring (e.g., 2022 version).
  • Second Amendment Protection Act — Allows medical marijuana users to own guns. Recurring.
  • War Powers resolutions (e.g., H.Con.Res. 38) — Remove US forces from unauthorized hostilities (Iran, Venezuela, etc.). Example: June 17, 2025.
  • No Immunity for Glyphosate Act (H.R. 7601) — Removes legal immunity for glyphosate makers. Introduced February 20, 2026.
  • Tax Free Tips Act — No taxes on tips. Version in 118th: June 18, 2024.
  • Proposals for congressional term limits and balanced budget amendment support — Ongoing, no single date.

Kentucky-Benefiting (Agriculture & Food Freedom)​


These remove federal rules that hit small farms hard in Kentucky (hemp, raw milk, local meat).


  • Industrial Hemp Farming Act (H.R. 525 and earlier versions) — Respects state hemp laws and removes federal barriers. First major introduction February 6, 2013 (recurring; key amendment passed in 2014 Farm Bill).
  • Interstate Milk Freedom Act of 2026 (H.R. 7880) — Allows raw milk to cross state lines. Introduced March 9, 2026 (recurring since 2014).
  • PRIME Act (Processing Revival and Intrastate Meat Exemption, e.g., H.R. 4700 in 119th) — Lets states allow custom-slaughtered meat sales within the state. Introduced July 23, 2025 (recurring since ~2015; helps KY livestock farmers).


Massie Supporter?







LEXINGTON, Ky.- A federal criminal complaint was unsealed in the U.S. District Court in Lexington on Wednesday charging Kadrioan Serainity Santiago, 23, with interstate threatening communication.

According to the criminal complaint, on April 1, 2026, FBI received information that Santiago, under the username “kadi_skating,” had been posting a series of politically violent threats and statements on Instagram between January 2026 and late March 2026. Among other things, Santiago threatened to cut President Donald Trump’s face with a razor blade, pull his skin off and feed the skin to stray dogs; threatened to kill the next member of law enforcement who interacted with him; encouraged others to shoot at ICE agents; and threatened to kill ICE agents himself.

The criminal complaint alleges that Santiago began posting the threatening communication in January 2026, posting, “im filled with political violence.”

“Threatening violence against the President and federal law enforcement officers strike at the core of our nation’s safety and the rule of law,” said Jason Parman, First Assistant United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Kentucky. “These actions will not be tolerated and will be met with swift and decisive prosecution. Through the FBI’s diligence and swift action, we moved quickly to address this threat and will pursue prosecution to the fullest extent of the law.”

"To those who choose to hide behind the anonymity of a screen to unleash threats against the President of the United States, other government officials, and law enforcement, the FBI will find you,” said Olivia Olson, Special Agent in Charge, FBI, Louisville Field Office. “It is against the law to post threatening communications online, and the FBI and our partners will use every available resource to identify, locate, and arrest those who choose to do so."

Jason Parman, First Assistant United States Attorney for the Eastern District of Kentucky, and Olivia Olson, Special Agent in Charge, FBI, Louisville Field Office, jointly announced the criminal complaint.

The case is being investigated by the FBI. Assistant United States Attorney Emily Greenfield is representing the United States in this case.
 

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It would be great if we lived in a world of line item vetos and being able to vote solely on the issue at hand. That’s not the world we live in, and Massie acting like it is causes more damage to what he and his constituents want than going along with the “party he belongs to”. So, to your point about a loyalty test, he’s a member of the party, it is a fvcking loyalty test, or leave the party and go register as a libertarian or independent with the rest of the idealistic poors.

he takes party money, he votes with the party. That’s the deal. Stop being so naive.
So if you're not going to vote strictly along one of the two party lines as a politician, you shouldn't be allowed?
If you vote for what you and your constituents actually believe in over what the national party demands, you shouldn't be a politician and you're the enemy?
If every politician follows that rule, all it takes is for the people at the very top to get corrupted or controlled, and the voters lose all their power.
 

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So if you're not going to vote strictly along one of the two party lines as a politician, you shouldn't be allowed?
If you vote for what you and your constituents actually believe in over what the national party demands, you shouldn't be a politician and you're the enemy?
If every politician follows that rule, all it takes is for the people at the very top to get corrupted or controlled, and the voters lose all their power.

He's should keep hanging out and voting with Ro Khanna. Kentucky will love that. Sarcasm button off.
 

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So if you're not going to vote strictly along one of the two party lines as a politician, you shouldn't be allowed?
If you vote for what you and your constituents actually believe in over what the national party demands, you shouldn't be a politician and you're the enemy?
If every politician follows that rule, all it takes is for the people at the very top to get corrupted or controlled, and the voters lose all their power.
Dont take money from the party and register as a independent or libertarian.
Why i hate parties and the DNC & RNC . What he is fighting most in the Republican party are for .
The evil this administration is going after have been costing us billions and billions. Not to mention the lives .
 

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Dont take money from the party and register as a independent or libertarian.
Why i hate parties and the DNC & RNC . What he is fighting most in the Republican party are for .
The evil this administration is going after have been costing us billions and billions. Not to mention the lives .


Wait until people find out China and Iran have been messing with our elections.
 
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I've heard it called Superpower Suicide. It will take decades to recover from the Trump disaster if at all.

President Donald Trump’s belligerent rhetoric toward America’s allies may please his domestic political base, but it is harming America’s international standing — perhaps permanently.

“Trump, for so many people, epitomizes the ugly American — somebody who is bumptious and vulgar and ignorant about foreign cultures,” former Time Magazine editor Rick Stengel said in a recent podcast appearance on The Bulwark with former Daily Beast editor-in-chief John Avlon. “So I think people sort of have come to the end of their patience with America.”

Avlon replied to Stengel by noting that polls found presidents like Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, who engaged in positive diplomatic relationships with other countries, were far more popular than the bellicose Trump. Indeed, Stengel noted that America’s foreign standing has “plummeted” during Trump’s two terms.

“It always seemed absurd to me when Trumpists would say that we need to be respected on the world stage, when you could see in the data that America was not respected — was held in worse regard when Trump was president, even than Chinese president-for-life Xi,” Avlon told Stengel. “So I wonder now with Iran, though — we seem to have crossed a Rubicon, because it was a war of choice, because our allies are not with us. And tell me about the downstream effect of that as you see it.”

Stengel added that, even though Joe Biden tried to reverse the damage to America’s reputation caused by Trump’s first term, America’s allies were not convinced that Biden would remain in power long enough to keep those policies in place. Trump’s reelection in 2024 confirmed their fears.

“This seesaw in presidential politics is something that people don't really understand,” Stengel told Avlon. “And then this Iran thing — by the way, what was probably most popular about Trump on the world stage was his sort of isolationism: that this isn't about America invading foreign countries and this world of endless wars, that America would retrench globally in terms of militaries but increase their presence globally in terms of trade and globalization. In some ways, it's the exact opposite. The alliances are also part of this idea of soft power, because — and I hate that phrase we used to use — we're not the world's policemen. We weren't the world's policemen, but we were the kind of foundation of the global world order, that people could trust America to abide by the rule of law, to be a pretty fairly honest broker. Not to say we wouldn't do bad things, but that is completely out the window.”

He concluded, “And the kind of ‘America First’ which has now actually caused it to get into a war is something that makes us much more isolated and much less popular, to an extraordinary extent.”

In February the New York Times reported that Trump’s imperialist rhetoric toward Denmark about acquiring Greenland and his conquest of Venezuela had convinced America’s European allies to decouple their most valuable financial and digital assets from American corporations. His tariffs have similarly prompted talk among Europeans of a permanent “divorce” from the US, with a senior European official telling Politico that “there is a shift in U.S. policy and in many ways it is permanent. Waiting it out is not a solution. What needs to be done is an orderly and coordinated movement to a new reality.”
 
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I've heard it called Superpower Suicide.

President Donald Trump’s belligerent rhetoric toward America’s allies may please his domestic political base, but it is harming America’s international standing — perhaps permanently.

“Trump, for so many people, epitomizes the ugly American — somebody who is bumptious and vulgar and ignorant about foreign cultures,” former Time Magazine editor Rick Stengel said in a recent podcast appearance on The Bulwark with former Daily Beast editor-in-chief John Avlon. “So I think people sort of have come to the end of their patience with America.”

“It always seemed absurd to me when Trumpists would say that we need to be respected on the world stage, when you could see in the data that America was not respected — was held in worse regard when Trump was president, even than Chinese president-for-life Xi,” Avlon told Stengel. “So I wonder now with Iran, though — we seem to have crossed a Rubicon, because it was a war of choice, because our allies are not with us. And tell me about the downstream effect of that as you see it.”

Stengel added that, even though Joe Biden tried to reverse the damage to America’s reputation caused by Trump’s first term, America’s allies were not convinced that Biden would remain in power long enough to keep those policies in place. Trump’s reelection in 2024 confirmed their fears.

The Bulwark. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

Europe is moving on alright. Under Sharia Law.

 
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So if you're not going to vote strictly along one of the two party lines as a politician, you shouldn't be allowed?
If you vote for what you and your constituents actually believe in over what the national party demands, you shouldn't be a politician and you're the enemy?
If every politician follows that rule, all it takes is for the people at the very top to get corrupted or controlled, and the voters lose all their power.
No, he can vote his conscience, but if it contradicts the party’s position, or causes broader detriment to the country because he chose to stand on principle, he nor people who support him should really be questioning why people are pissed. And also, it better be for a damn good reason.

If you think people in Washington vote on the merits of things only, I’ve got some real nice oceanfront in Mingo county for you. Politics is compromise. Massey has now become the most ineffectual Republican we have. Going forward, no one in his party will work with him to try and pass anything he tries to do because of his actions. That’s just a fact. Regardless if he gets primaried, which he should, he’s now just residing in an office with zero people to help him move his agenda, any agenda forward.

There is how we wished the world worked, and there is how the world works. As I’ve said, you’re very long on idealism, you’ve not been sufficiently disenfranchised by the realities of DC. I’m gonna guess you’re early 30s, maybe late 20s. How close am I?
 
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before the 2020 presidential election, U.S. intelligence issued a secret but stark warning that foreign adversaries had the capability to “compromise" America's voting infrastructure and raised specific concerns about the vulnerability of voter registration databases that later would be penetrated by China and Iran, a newly declassified memo obtained by Just the News shows.


The National Intelligence Council's (NIC) concerns were so extensive that officials personally briefed President Donald Trump at the White House in February 2020, according to photos obtained by Just the News showing top CIA, FBI and Homeland Security officials joining with NIC analysts to inform the president.

But the American public was never fully alerted, even after evidence emerged that China had gained access to voter registration data in multiple states and had even sent fake driver's licenses to the United States in a bid to help Joe Biden win the election, officials said.


We judge that US adversaries, including, at a minimum, Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea, as well as non-state groups, have the capability to compromise US election infrastructure for the 2020 presidential election," the NIC wrote in the memo dated Jan. 15, 2020.


"Adversaries gaining access to US election-related systems could disrupt the voting process, steal sensitive data, or undermine confidence in the election results, but we do not know whether any of them have specific plans to manipulate election-related systems," the memo added.

The document was recently declassified by Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, who continues to expose examples of the intelligence community suppressing or misusing intelligence.


It's a l Iong article and it's going to a second part to it at a later date.
 
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No, he can vote his conscience, but if it contradicts the party’s position, or causes broader detriment to the country because he chose to stand on principle, he nor people who support him should really be questioning why people are pissed. And also, it better be for a damn good reason.

If you think people in Washington vote on the merits of things only, I’ve got some real nice oceanfront in Mingo county for you. Politics is compromise. Massey has now become the most ineffectual Republican we have. Going forward, no one in his party will work with him to try and pass anything he tries to do because of his actions. That’s just a fact. Regardless if he gets primaried, which he should, he’s now just residing in an office with zero people to help him move his agenda, any agenda forward.

There is how we wished the world worked, and there is how the world works. As I’ve said, you’re very long on idealism, you’ve not been sufficiently disenfranchised by the realities of DC. I’m gonna guess you’re early 30s, maybe late 20s. How close am I?
The fact that so many people think voting with principles and not on party lines is worse than voting party lines, even if it isn't what their constituents want, is the exact problem! Putting red team vs blue team like it is some sport.

Our Congress is not “The World.” As a matter of fact, it is supposed to be the exact thing in government that operates like “we wished.” This isn’t realism versus idealism. It’s whether Congress serves the public or just protects its own rotten system. When someone challenges the system and gets isolated for it, that says way more about how ****** the system is than about the guy.

What metric do you want to look at? Numbers on Social Security? Number of people on welfare? Birth rates? Housing affordability? Military strength and readiness? Support for vets maybe?

I can tell you debt is closing in on $40TRILLION and adding something like <$2T a year and that's not counting the $4T added in 2020, which MASSIE was the ONLY ONE to show up and do his job to try to get a vote recorded.

AND **** MIRIAM ADDELSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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The fact that so many people think voting with principles and not on party lines is worse than voting party lines, even if it isn't what their constituents want, is the exact problem! Putting red team vs blue team like it is some sport.

Our Congress is not “The World.” As a matter of fact, it is supposed to be the exact thing in government that operates like “we wished.” This isn’t realism versus idealism. It’s whether Congress serves the public or just protects its own rotten system. When someone challenges the system and gets isolated for it, that says way more about how ****** the system is than about the guy.

What metric do you want to look at? Numbers on Social Security? Number of people on welfare? Birth rates? Housing affordability? Military strength and readiness? Support for vets maybe?

I can tell you debt is closing in on $40TRILLION and adding something like <$2T a year and that's not counting the $4T added in 2020, which MASSIE was the ONLY ONE to show up and do his job to try to get a vote recorded.

AND **** MIRIAM ADDELSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Democrats vote party line for the worst possible **** for our Country. Open Borders to everything else. If Republicans and Independents don't stick together then Democrats now controlled by a Socialist and Islamic Socialist Alliance will destroy our Country. You can stop pretending you don't understand that. Divide and Conquer. You are on team America or you are enabler. Being you were calling for a National Divorce we are going to have to assume you are on the Red/Green Alliance.
 
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The fact that so many people think voting with principles and not on party lines is worse than voting party lines, even if it isn't what their constituents want, is the exact problem! Putting red team vs blue team like it is some sport.

Our Congress is not “The World.” As a matter of fact, it is supposed to be the exact thing in government that operates like “we wished.” This isn’t realism versus idealism. It’s whether Congress serves the public or just protects its own rotten system. When someone challenges the system and gets isolated for it, that says way more about how ****** the system is than about the guy.

What metric do you want to look at? Numbers on Social Security? Number of people on welfare? Birth rates? Housing affordability? Military strength and readiness? Support for vets maybe?

I can tell you debt is closing in on $40TRILLION and adding something like <$2T a year and that's not counting the $4T added in 2020, which MASSIE was the ONLY ONE to show up and do his job to try to get a vote recorded.

AND **** MIRIAM ADDELSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’d love for everyone to vote on the merits. That’s just not reality though when one side is a monolith. The principled position will soon be in the minority and really outflanked. You’re wanting idealism, I get it. You have to acknowledge that giving wins to the left is worse than not voting your conscience. I’m not sure how much worse the country has to get at their hands before you realize they have to be stopped cold in their tracks.

what you want will never be reality. When you realize that, you’ll realize how moronic the Libertarian approach truly is. It’s basically just a waste of time. And again, I used to be right there with you. All-in on the idealism front. Then, I saw how horrifically corrupt the Dems will play the game and then understood, it has to end.
 

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Remember when I said there was people on the so called right that were working with Antifa on Jan 6 to make good people look bad.

They want a Civil War and are attempting to escalate one. Because they are retarded and don't understand how that's really going to go.



Are we certain that hasn't already happened. I don't recognize the current faux Libertarians.



Satirical website the Onion plans to turn rightwing commentator Alex Jones’s misinformation site Infowars into a parody of itself under a leasing agreement provisionally approved by a Texas court.
 

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I’d love for everyone to vote on the merits. That’s just not reality though when one side is a monolith. The principled position will soon be in the minority and really outflanked. You’re wanting idealism, I get it. You have to acknowledge that giving wins to the left is worse than not voting your conscience. I’m not sure how much worse the country has to get at their hands before you realize they have to be stopped cold in their tracks.

what you want will never be reality. When you realize that, you’ll realize how moronic the Libertarian approach truly is. It’s basically just a waste of time. And again, I used to be right there with you. All-in on the idealism front. Then, I saw how horrifically corrupt the Dems will play the game and then understood, it has to end.
In this case I want congress to represent the people. Is that moronic? Is that idealism?

Want to know how you stop them in their tracks? End the Fed, at least audit it. If they cant print money to give away and to fund their dumbass ideas then it all dies because nobody will support it with their own money. Free markets and all, I know crazy ideas.

What is it that you want for the future of our country?
I'm not asking for anything idealistic I just want to work toward something positive instead of only constantly reacting out of fear.

Again I ask what you are suggesting is the status quo, how's that going? How would you even measure positive change?
 
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