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Sick burn bro.

Lemme see a photo of your wife's read out on the bathroom scale...
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o_Balfor

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Do you think there's something fundamentally different about black people compared to other races?

You'd have to in order to ignore the more logical explanations for black "culture" being what it is.
What are the more logical explanations? I don't know how you throw that without some detail.

Please do some quick research on wedlock birth rates and literacy rates in the 20th century. The black family was conservative and strong. Literacy rates were not good, but rising at an impressive rate. Find pictures of Florence over a period of time. If you are truly curious, it will answer some questions. Going to stop, except to say people saw it coming, and were demonized for expressing their concern. Heck they are still demonized.
 

o_Balfor

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Haiti is a gawd damn nightmare. When we were in Dominican Republic they hated any and all Haitians. Didn't want any of them in their country. Can't blame them.
Okay, so people are not monolithic, and they can make choices. You answered your question. Is there anything more manly than being responsible?
 

BleedRed89

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What are the more logical explanations? I don't know how you throw that without some detail.

Please do some quick research on wedlock birth rates and literacy rates in the 20th century. The black family was conservative and strong. Literacy rates were not good, but rising at an impressive rate. Find pictures of Florence over a period of time. If you are truly curious, it will answer some questions. Going to stop, except to say people saw it coming, and were demonized for expressing their concern. Heck they are still demonized.
Gee IDk. Reconstruction. Generational wealth denial. Share cropping. Redlining. Restrictive covenants. GI bill disparity. Sentencing disparities. Over policing leading to recidivism. Property tax funding of schools. Oh ****...slavery...I think that was a minor contributor....

But **** all that am I rite? Your lives suck because black people! Not for any other reasons.
 

Scoop123

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Gee IDk. Reconstruction. Generational wealth denial. Share cropping. Redlining. Restrictive covenants. GI bill disparity. Sentencing disparities. Over policing leading to recidivism. Property tax funding of schools. Oh ****...slavery...I think that was a minor contributor....

But **** all that am I rite? Your lives suck because black people! Not for any other reasons.
I am willing to have this discussion. But first, can you tell me why the predominantly black countries we have named are violent and lack peace and prosperity? Can you name any that are prosperous and peaceful? I am not playing a game of gotcha here. I just think if we could point to a predominantly black society or country that is peaceful and low violence, it would give cred to the things you listed above. Can you?
 

o_Balfor

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So when a white man goes on a shooting spree is that just white people doing white people things
No one is saying white people don't shoot people. That's more than a little sophomoric. Using the exception as the argument actually disproves your argument.

When you have a culture where there are high standards around morality, education, work, etc, marginal people are going still fair well. By marginal, I mean, maybe from a broken family, not as smart, not as physically able. Any number of factors. The culture is going to hold them up at a much higher rate. You take the same troubled people, and put them around a high number of like, and they will fail at a much higher rate.

Mary Smith is a single mom in an affluent area with solid families. Her son has a good chance at a good life.
Mary Jones is a single mom in an area with a 80% out of wedlock rate. That kid is most likely f'ed.

Both Marys may be great moms, but they are put their children and others at risk.
 
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BleedRed89

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I am willing to have this discussion. But first, can you tell me why the predominantly black countries we have named are violent and lack peace and prosperity? Can you name any that are prosperous and peaceful? I am not playing a game of gotcha here. I just think if we could point to a predominantly black society or country that is peaceful and low violence, it would give cred to the things you listed above. Can you?
Africa pre Berlin conference was filled with successful empires and kingdoms.

Unfortunately for them, their leaders were willing to be subservient to handing over their continents wealth to foreign nations.

You can generally find two things in these nations. 1. Foreign powers sucking them dry of their natural resources. 2. Corrupt politicians all too willing to allow it for their own personal gain.

Black individuals are the same as whites or any other ethnicity on a genetic level. Any two humans on Earth are 99.9% genetically identical. There is no difference between us besides the melanin in our skin.

I will add, those black nations werent innocent. Their participation in the slave trade greatly contributed to their current state. But Im not going to condemn an entire subset of people over the sins of their fathers.

Is there a problem with black "culture"? Absolutely. But I'm not buying the propaganda that black people are just inherently evil people. There is a massive array of legitimate societal reasons for why black "culture" as we know it today exists. We should be addressing those issues, not condemning our fellow man. And with such contempt. It isnt healthy. And it certainly isnt Christian, which so many of you claim to be...
 
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o_Balfor

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Gee IDk. Reconstruction. Generational wealth denial. Share cropping. Redlining. Restrictive covenants. GI bill disparity. Sentencing disparities. Over policing leading to recidivism. Property tax funding of schools. Oh ****...slavery...I think that was a minor contributor....

But **** all that am I rite? Your lives suck because black people! Not for any other reasons.
Okay, I thought maybe you could have a discussion, but apparently you're not able.

"Your lives suck because black people!" This is the exact argument you are making, not me. You literally listed a bunch of excuses blaming others. Healthy people say I am responsible for my life. That is being a man. It is also a core of western culture.

Again, go look at the numbers. If you can't reach better a conclusion on when the black community started regressing, then I suggest you aren't brave enough to accept it.

You are one really, really destructive person.
 

BleedRed89

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Okay, I thought maybe you could have a discussion, but apparently you're not able.

"Your lives suck because black people!" This is the exact argument you are making, not me. You literally listed a bunch of excuses blaming others. Healthy people say I am responsible for my life. That is being a man. It is also a core of western culture.

Again, go look at the numbers. If you can't reach better a conclusion on when the black community started regressing, then I suggest you aren't brave enough to accept it.

You are one really, really destructive person.
Fvckin...wut mate? I was asked to provide contributing factors. I did so. Your response is "You're just listing excuses that blame other people"...my brother in Christ, that was literally the request given to me. I apologize, were the only acceptable responses ones that condemned black people?

And Im destructive and unable to have a conversation? You get zero tolerance from me from prior conversations in which you levied insults at me for making the most bland statements. You get no bandwidth from me in turn. Eye for an eye chief.

In short; I think you're an imbecile. If you'd like to prove me wrong, why not try actually addressing one of the many societal explanations for the current state of black "culture" in America I listed above?

It should be relatively easy given your superior grasp of the circumstances.
 
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o_Balfor

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Fvckin...wut mate? I was asked to provide contributing factors. I did so. Your response is "You're just listing excuses that blame other people"...my brother in Christ, that was literally the request given to me. I apologize, were the only acceptable responses ones that condemned black people?

And Im destructive and unable to have a conversation? You get zero tolerance from me from prior conversations in which you levied insults at me for making the most bland statements. You get no bandwidth from me in turn. Eye for an eye chief.

In short; I think you're an imbecile. If you'd like to prove me wrong, why not try actually addressing one of the many societal explanations for the current state of black "culture" in America I listed above?

It should be relatively easy given your superior grasp of the circumstances.
It's a very blatant contradiction that you can't seem to grasp. The one casting blame is you, not others.

You: "The reasons are A, B, C. If you don't agree with me, then you're a racist."

No one cares about your tolerance chief. I asked asked for info and you provided
"But **** all that am I rite? Your lives suck because black people! Not for any other reasons."

That's a moronic statement.
 
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BleedRed89

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It's a very blatant contradiction that you can't seem to grasp. Your response was emotional, and you made ridiculous assumptions that weren't true. Maybe be more careful what you post.
So nothing then? You have no rebuttal beyond "figure it out yourself".

This is the stance you take every time you're pressed for clarification. And you aren't fooling anyone. You don't form a response because you have none. You are a pathetic excuse of a man.

And be careful what I post? There are literally multiple posts ITT condemning an entire ethnicity, but you advice me to be careful of what I post?

Truly logical.
 
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You jumped into my thread with your woke DEI liberal garbage. So, once again. You lose.
The great part is, the handful of simps here that feel they have to be contrarian on every topic, are always participating in the threads they claim shouldn’t be here. It’s hilarious. Too bad their lead ***** Skylar isn’t around to ban anyone who points it out. The pussies are having a bad stretch here
 

RedMyMind2.0

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Gee IDk. Reconstruction. Generational wealth denial. Share cropping. Redlining. Restrictive covenants. GI bill disparity. Sentencing disparities. Over policing leading to recidivism. Property tax funding of schools. Oh ****...slavery...I think that was a minor contributor....

But **** all that am I rite? Your lives suck because black people! Not for any other reasons.
calm down Nancy. You are getting all emotional. This is what got us in this situation to begin with.

You are just making more excuses for a failed experiment
 

RedMyMind2.0

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Africa pre Berlin conference was filled with successful empires and kingdoms.

Unfortunately for them, their leaders were willing to be subservient to handing over their continents wealth to foreign nations.

You can generally find two things in these nations. 1. Foreign powers sucking them dry of their natural resources. 2. Corrupt politicians all too willing to allow it for their own personal gain.

Black individuals are the same as whites or any other ethnicity on a genetic level. Any two humans on Earth are 99.9% genetically identical. There is no difference between us besides the melanin in our skin.

I will add, those black nations werent innocent. Their participation in the slave trade greatly contributed to their current state. But Im not going to condemn an entire subset of people over the sins of their fathers.

Is there a problem with black "culture"? Absolutely. But I'm not buying the propaganda that black people are just inherently evil people. There is a massive array of legitimate societal reasons for why black "culture" as we know it today exists. We should be addressing those issues, not condemning our fellow man. And with such contempt. It isnt healthy. And it certainly isnt Christian, which so many of you claim to be...
A lot of words for coping.

Are pitbulls the same as golden retrievers or german sheppards?

Black people were selected for the sub-sahara. Just how it is. It isn't heartless to say that. It is heartless to expect them to fit into cultures that they don't belong. Just like Huskies don't belong in hot climates.
 

BleedRed89

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A lot of words for coping.

Are pitbulls the same as golden retrievers or german sheppards?

Black people were selected for the sub-sahara. Just how it is. It isn't heartless to say that. It is heartless to expect them to fit into cultures that they don't belong. Just like Huskies don't belong in hot climates.
They were "selected"?

Do you by chance identify as a religious man?
 

RedMyMind2.0

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They were "selected"?

Do you by chance identify as a religious man?
No.
Why do you think that the police employ certain breeds of dog for service? After all, all dogs are 99% genetically similar.
There are traits such as temperment and intelligence, etc.
 

Scoop123

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So nothing then? You have no rebuttal beyond "figure it out yourself".

This is the stance you take every time you're pressed for clarification. And you aren't fooling anyone. You don't form a response because you have none. You are a pathetic excuse of a man.

And be careful what I post? There are literally multiple posts ITT condemning an entire ethnicity, but you advice me to be careful of what I post?

Truly logical.

I will continue this conversation with you. A few things you have said to others are unhealthy IMO and that always seems to happen in this country. Let’s avoid that.

I’ve actually enjoyed this discussion that you and I have had. I did a little research on the Berlin conference and found it intriguing. You are right, there was thriving black nations before that time. Now, as you know, these were not exactly New York City and Dubai. These were tribal nations that prosper under a completely different structure and lifestyle. It really got me thinking. And it goes with what another poster said on here that perhaps blacks are simply struggling with western civilization.

I think this argument has some merit. Perhaps blacks would thrive in Africa in a completely different way than western civilization - Like they did before the Berlin conference. I’m not sure how this translates to Jamaica and Haiti, but for now let’s focus on Africa.

I hope you will acknowledge that blacks in general are struggling immensely in the area of violence and crime. And while there are some circumstances that contribute to that like slavery and some of the things you mentioned, they also need to take accountability and live productive lives. I have heard you blame white people and our system quite a bit, do you point the finger at blacks themselves… And if so, how much?
 

BleedRed89

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No.
Why do you think that the police employ certain breeds of dog for service? After all, all dogs are 99% genetically similar.
There are traits such as temperment and intelligence, etc.
This didnt prove the point you seem to think it does. Dogs are dogs. There are variations in appearance, but a dog is a dog.

Humans may have variations in appearance, but a human is a human.
 

BleedRed89

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I will continue this conversation with you. A few things you have said to others are unhealthy IMO and that always seems to happen in this country. Let’s avoid that.

I’ve actually enjoyed this discussion that you and I have had. I did a little research on the Berlin conference and found it intriguing. You are right, there was thriving black nations before that time. Now, as you know, these were not exactly New York City and Dubai. These were tribal nations that prosper under a completely different structure and lifestyle. It really got me thinking. And it goes with what another poster said on here that perhaps blacks are simply struggling with western civilization.

I think this argument has some merit. Perhaps blacks would thrive in Africa in a completely different way than western civilization - Like they did before the Berlin conference. I’m not sure how this translates to Jamaica and Haiti, but for now let’s focus on Africa.

I hope you will acknowledge that blacks in general are struggling immensely in the area of violence and crime. And while there are some circumstances that contribute to that like slavery and some of the things you mentioned, they also need to take accountability and live productive lives. I have heard you blame white people and our system quite a bit, do you point the finger at blacks themselves… And if so, how much?
Difficult not to take a defensive approach when so many of our fans are being so openly toxic towards an entire race of man kind.

Can you imagine the players of the team we all claim to be fans of reading this thread?

And of course I acknowledge the disparity in crime rates among the black community. I listed a number of reasons why black Americans are in the position they're in that has made them feel the only way to survive is gangster culture in a previous post. It was dismissed as "blaming others" by other posters here.

They're humans. Just like us. Its nature vs nurture.
 

RedMyMind2.0

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This didnt prove the point you seem to think it does. Dogs are dogs. There are variations in appearance, but a dog is a dog.

Humans may have variations in appearance, but a human is a human.
and some dogs are better in different situations.
not just appearance but intelligence and temperament