OT: Girls HS flag football

newell138

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Happened to be walking the boardwalk the other day and saw some of the OC vs Winslow game being played so went to watch for a bit. It was actually quite entertaining and I think this could really take off. So many good athletes. I do think it’s going to hurt track and softball tho. I know so many girls who played either and would have definitely chosen football if it was an option

the best part though was seeing how into it all the girls were. They were having such a great time
 

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Happened to be walking the boardwalk the other day and saw some of the OC vs Winslow game being played so went to watch for a bit. It was actually quite entertaining and I think this could really take off. So many good athletes. I do think it’s going to hurt track and softball tho. I know so many girls who played either and would have definitely chosen football if it was an option

the best part though was seeing how into it all the girls were. They were having such a great time

Your 2nd paragraph is the key. But why not make it a fall sport and minimize the damage to track and softball? I doubt it would have the same impact on soccer.
 
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Rutgers Chris

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My son’s flag league in California had 20+ teams at the 7th/8th grade level on the girls side and several girls who played with the boys in the co-ed division. It’s definitely very popular here.
 

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The NJSIAA will be voting on making girls flag football an officially sanctioned sport at the next meeting.

"NJSIAA staff, together with the football leagues and conferences, propose to add Girls Flag
Football to the list of NJSIAA officially sanctioned sports, starting with the 2026-27 school year." from NJSIAA.org
 

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Happened to be walking the boardwalk the other day and saw some of the OC vs Winslow game being played so went to watch for a bit. It was actually quite entertaining and I think this could really take off. So many good athletes. I do think it’s going to hurt track and softball tho. I know so many girls who played either and would have definitely chosen football if it was an option

the best part though was seeing how into it all the girls were. They were having such a great time
I think my town (No. Plfd.) has a team now. Anything that keeps kids active with a game they love playing, I'm all for.
 
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My daughter’s a high school sophomore and already a two-year starter—which is pretty wild considering I taught her how to catch a football literally the week before tryouts. She went in reluctantly… and now she absolutely loves it.


She’s been a competitive soccer player her whole life, and funny enough, two of her soccer teammates are now starting receivers too. In fact, there are at least eight soccer players on the team, and honestly, they’re head and shoulders above the rest athletically. Since the soccer and football seasons don’t overlap, it’s a perfect setup. There are a few basketball players sprinkled in as well, so that’s basically the talent pipeline right now.


I even took a shot at recruiting a senior softball player to play quarterback—but no luck there. Kind of surprising, because while softball players are a different breed, if you find one who can throw darts and has some speed, she’d be a total game-changer. As of now, I don’t think there’s a single former softball player on the roster.


All that said, I’ve been really impressed with how quickly the girls have picked up the game—it’s been awesome to watch. My only concern is the contact. Some of the stronger girls are still figuring out body control, and you do see a few unnecessary collisions that could probably be avoided with more experience.
 

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I’m all for keeping kids active and happy and guessing it’s a low budget sport. Sounds like a win. With that said, I suspect there will be an initial spike in participation and then it will flat-line. Same goes for women’s wrestling. It’s been on a tear but when you start at 0 it’s not hard to show massive growth in the beginning.
 
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Weird flag football tidbit. Waiting for an broken elevator in Virginia last weekend, a women from the Bahamas told me she runs youth flag football in that country and their main rival is Mexico. Her kids' favorite sports are swimming, baseball, and flag football.

I understand why flag football appeal is growing. Football requires too much equipment, too many players, and games take many hours.

An abbreviated, more accessible form of football would inevitably emerge - flag football. Same thing happened with cricket. Twenty20 reduced game time from five days to 3 or 4 hours. Rugby sevens games last 14 minutes. A tournament can be played in a weekend. Both Twenty20 and rugby sevens have become gained huge popularity. Maybe flag football is next.
 
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I’m all for keeping kids active and happy and guessing it’s a low budget sport. Sounds like a win. With that said, I suspect there will be an initial spike in participation and then it will flat-line. Same goes for women’s wrestling. It’s been on a tear but when you start at 0 it’s not hard to show massive growth in the beginning.
Not so sure about that. The Friday Night Lights league my son plays in is celebrating its 20th anniversary this year. Registration is full for all four seasons- fall, winter, spring and summer.
 

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Not so sure about that. The Friday Night Lights league my son plays in is celebrating its 20th anniversary this year. Registration is full for all four seasons- fall, winter, spring and summer.
Boys yes…girls not so sure. Most of the kids in my town play flag until they are old enough to go full blown pads/helmet.
 

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Boys yes…girls not so sure. Most of the kids in my town play flag until they are old enough to go full blown pads/helmet.
Different animal here, flag leagues go up to 8th grade and most high schools now have teams.
 

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Different animal here, flag leagues go up to 8th grade and most high schools now have teams.
Issue is Without a path to college you aren’t going to have the serious athletes. They will transition to real football sooner. So while fun it’s pretty much a dead end sport which is totally fine because it keeps kids active. But the talent pool is usually drained by middle school.
 
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Issue is Without a path to college you aren’t going to have the serious athletes. They will transition to real football sooner. So while fun it’s pretty much a dead end sport which is totally fine because it keeps kids active. But the talent pool is usually drained by middle school.
Just a matter of time before most colleges have a women’s flag football team. Follow the money: the NFL is already investing into pro flag football. They will own women’s and men’s spring leagues.

Every high school in NJ will have a girl’s flag football team within five years.

GO RU
 

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Happened to be walking the boardwalk the other day and saw some of the OC vs Winslow game being played so went to watch for a bit. It was actually quite entertaining and I think this could really take off. So many good athletes. I do think it’s going to hurt track and softball tho. I know so many girls who played either and would have definitely chosen football if it was an option

the best part though was seeing how into it all the girls were. They were having such a great time
My daughters school just started Friday flag football sessions with the goal of starting a formal team within a few years. It's been very popular.
 

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Just a matter of time before most colleges have a women’s flag football team. Follow the money: the NFL is already investing into pro flag football. They will own women’s and men’s spring leagues.

Every high school in NJ will have a girl’s flag football team within five years.

GO RU
The HS in my town rejected it although I don’t know the basis, whether it will be revisited, etc.
 
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tico brown

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Just a matter of time before most colleges have a women’s flag football team. Follow the money: the NFL is already investing into pro flag football. They will own women’s and men’s spring leagues.

Every high school in NJ will have a girl’s flag football team within five years.

GO RU
Definitely cheaper to field a flag team than a tackle team.
 
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The NJSIAA will be voting on making girls flag football an officially sanctioned sport at the next meeting.

"NJSIAA staff, together with the football leagues and conferences, propose to add Girls Flag
Football to the list of NJSIAA officially sanctioned sports, starting with the 2026-27 school year." from NJSIAA.org
The vote is nothing but a formality now, girl's flag football has gone from 53 teams in 2024, to around 80 last year to almost 170 teams participating this year.

The odd thing is it's currently considered a "non-strenuous" sport as a club sport but will change to "strenuous" once it gains varsity status. No idea why but that's the NJSIAA for you.

Your 2nd paragraph is the key. But why not make it a fall sport and minimize the damage to track and softball? I doubt it would have the same impact on soccer.
Mainly because boy's football uses the same field all week between practices and multiple games. Plus boy's and girl's soccer. They only need to deal with lacrosse and track in the spring.
 
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newell138

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Just a matter of time before most colleges have a women’s flag football team. Follow the money: the NFL is already investing into pro flag football. They will own women’s and men’s spring leagues.

Every high school in NJ will have a girl’s flag football team within five years.

GO RU
Correct on the NFL investment. Building fans with it too. I know they sent people to OCHS a couple years ago to help get things started
 

Jtung230

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My daughter has been playing since 6th grade. It’s still a 2nd tier sport for better athletes. Main reason is path to colleges. A lot girls get into top tier schools via sports from my town.
 

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The vote is nothing but a formality now, girl's flag football has gone from 53 teams in 2024, to around 80 last year to almost 170 teams participating this year.

The odd thing is it's currently considered a "non-strenuous" sport as a club sport but will change to "strenuous" once it gains varsity status. No idea why but that's the NJSIAA for you.


Mainly because boy's football uses the same field all week between practices and multiple games. Plus boy's and girl's soccer. They only need to deal with lacrosse and track in the spring.
That’s the lobbying by the coaches from the other sports that will be affected by this.
 

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NJ.com article about Montclair needing to raise $175k to keep sports alive. Storied Montclair football program is basically dead as facilities are terrible and not maintained. Jefferson sports dying. The list goes on. With HS getting rid of sports and broke, who’s gonna pay for all these schools to start girls flag programs?
 

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NJ.com article about Montclair needing to raise $175k to keep sports alive. Storied Montclair football program is basically dead as facilities are terrible and not maintained. Jefferson sports dying. The list goes on. With HS getting rid of sports and broke, who’s gonna pay for all these schools to start girls flag programs?
Girls flag football doesn’t cost much - jerseys, mouthpiece, belt, flags and a couple of balls.

Flags and belts were provided to my kids school by the Jets and the mouthpieces come from boys football program. So that cuts down on spend.
 

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NJ.com article about Montclair needing to raise $175k to keep sports alive. Storied Montclair football program is basically dead as facilities are terrible and not maintained. Jefferson sports dying. The list goes on. With HS getting rid of sports and broke, who’s gonna pay for all these schools to start girls flag programs?
Crazy that these towns are in such a position

 

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Girls soccer was a spring sport in the Shore Conference until about 30 years ago when it moved to the fall, taking away some athletes from field hockey initially. Eventually things settled and some girls go the soccer route and others go the field hockey route. Same thing would happen with girls flag football in the spring.
 

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Girls flag football doesn’t cost much - jerseys, mouthpiece, belt, flags and a couple of balls.

Flags and belts were provided to my kids school by the Jets and the mouthpieces come from boys football program. So that cuts down on spend.
It’s not just a football problem which obviously costs more than other sports due to equipment and insurance. My town already rejected girls flag football based on athletic budget. Although would be surprised if it ends there.
 

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It’s not just a football problem which obviously costs more than other sports due to equipment and insurance. My town already rejected girls flag football based on athletic budget. Although would be surprised if it ends there.
That’s because the funding formula is broken and certain costs like healthcare and utilities are increasing far faster than the schools can increase their budgets under state law. So when the state funding doesn’t help meet the need they are resorting to cutting teachers and staff and now athletics is in the crosshairs.

Our new governor doesn’t give a crap though, she’s too busy yelling at FIFA for something Murphy agreed to.
 

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That’s because the funding formula is broken and certain costs like healthcare and utilities are increasing far faster than the schools can increase their budgets under state law. So when the state funding doesn’t help meet the need they are resorting to cutting teachers and staff and now athletics is in the crosshairs.

Our new governor doesn’t give a crap though, she’s too busy yelling at FIFA for something Murphy agreed to.
hard to imagine high schools dropping sports. huge part of the teen experience especially when such a tiny percentage go on to play college. Sports gives them so many life lessons, even the less talented kids that ride the bench but want to be part of something. Just 5 years ago my town was a football powerhouse - a Friday night game was a packed house. This year was a disaster - bunch of transfers to privates, some 8th graders choosing privates, overall numbers down = attendance was pathetic. Really sad and I don’t see it improving
 

tico brown

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Girls flag football doesn’t cost much - jerseys, mouthpiece, belt, flags and a couple of balls.

Flags and belts were provided to my kids school by the Jets and the mouthpieces come from boys football program. So that cuts down on spend.
This is a good reason that flag football may overtake tackle football 10-20 years from now.
 

tico brown

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Not possible without turning D1 football upside down…and in turn the NFL. Youth/HS tackle football is the feeder for next levels.
Only reason that this is MAY instead of WILL.

Who knows what will happen 20 years from now with how fast things evolve from one way of doing things to the complete opposite.
 

newell138

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NJ.com article about Montclair needing to raise $175k to keep sports alive. Storied Montclair football program is basically dead as facilities are terrible and not maintained. Jefferson sports dying. The list goes on. With HS getting rid of sports and broke, who’s gonna pay for all these schools to start girls flag programs?
In a town with avg household income of almost $200k that’s a shame.
 
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not surprising at all Montclair is in that position. they are one of the schools that stayed closed the longest because of covid, and then spent more than anybody on mental health with special aides and tutors in subsequent years needed for the kids they ****** up and made dumber.

They also spent a fortune to upgrade "ventilation" at one of their schools.

Montclair schools also have high staff salary for ******** DEI positions, compared to other districts. you have idiots in charge from the left this is what happens.

let it burn
 
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