Agreed.
What I'm asking is if he can be one of those building blocks that can get us there.
I hope he so. Time will tell.
Is Zoom an upgrade from Lowe?
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What I'm asking is if he can be one of those building blocks that can get us there.
I hope he so. Time will tell.
He has two arms.
And he is bigger and more physical. Both will help on the defensive end.
And he is bigger and more physical. Both will help on the defensive end.
Yes, bc he has a man’s body and not the frame of a 5th grade girl!
I've said I don't thin Diallo is a star but he probably is better than Lowe. At least I'd rather have him than Lowe.
Posters that think that Zoom Diallo is a better player than Aberdeen very likely have not watched full games of Zoom Diallo. He’s fairly good and he’s more of a point guard than Aberdeen, but Aberdeen is 100% a better overall basketball player.
Zoom is talented but not an especially good player from the neck up, and his distance shooting sucks. Good coaching might help him develop and mature.
Zoom is talented but not an especially good player from the neck up, and his distance shooting sucks. Good coaching might help him develop and mature.
6’4 combo guard. He’s more physical We play in the SEC remember? As fans we just have no idea what offense pope is gonna run. He totally abandoned his offensive scheme last season. Was that an anomaly, a product of the injuries, or him over correcting from his first season where they struggled against physical teams.
Aberdeen averaged 13 points a game and was a ball hog. He was a senior trying to impress NBA scouts. Don’t think that qualifies as 100% better. The biggest Problem last year was the lack of a point guard. It‘s not a good comparison.
You act like it’s about recruiting. In 2025 it’s not. Stokes grew up on the West coast, not a Kentucky HS. I think some think if you drove across I 75. Your Kentucky’s to lose. Pope getting ZooM is plus fr UK
I think everyone understands that a final four is a giant reach for next year. minus stokes making the tourney will be the goal as sad as that is to say,
False that doesn't work look at the elite 8 and final 4 most of those teams had a top talented player surrounded by complimentary pieces.
Pope wound up with a team full of role players Oweh was good but not top talent.There were a few sec teams I doubt he would have started on.
What a crock, every school in the SEC would have given thier eye teeth to have hime. We wouldn't even had a winning season without him
Zoom is a massive upgrade. He’s Otega Oweh but with Handle and much better passing ability. He was better than Oweh in every metric last season and has the assist ratio of Wall and Ullis. He will be our best PG since Fox and SGA. His catch and shoot 3 is also very efficient, he could play himself into a first round pick.
Lowe absolutely but Aberdeen no. If he didn’t shoot the 3 so awful then he would be.
Diallo is a good high major player, but he is not Oteh and he most definitely was not better than Oteh in every metric last year.
For instance,
- Oteh got to the line about one and half times as often as Diallo.
- Otheh had two and a half times more steals per game while fouling far less,
- Oteh turned it over about 30% less (but with 50% fewer assists)
- Oteh was a better rebounder,
- Even in his worst 3pt % season, Oteh was a better distance shooter on far more volume. Oteh was relied on to create shots at the end of the shot clock and Ziallo is not as much that guy - he was at 31.5% on very low volume, so he was open catch and shoot from three primarily. If you watch video, Diallo's outside shot is a little funky and slow-release.
I think we have to remember this is a guy who came up through basketball being able to drive and have his way in the lane against his competition. He didn’t need to shoot from the perimeter. In fact, it usually would have been an inefficient - selfish even - play for his team. So, like a large percentage of highly ranked high school Guards (practically all of them prior to the last few year’s influence of NBA 3pt.-centric emphasis) he wasn’t a good 3pt. shooter coming out of high school for the simple reason that he didn’t have enough reps and emphasis on it.
If you haven’t already, watch some video of Diallo’s shot and see what you think. The shot looks fine to me, and given his good FT% and the 3pt.% jump he’s already made from his freshman to sophomore seasons I think there’s a good basis to project even better perimeter shooting.
Based on what I've read about Zoom, his size, build and elite ability going to the rim are more similar to Oweh with a better handle who passes a lot more.
Diallo's value will who you surround him with.
give him a dead eye shooter and a guy that closes at the basket and his assist ratio will improve.
give him a dead eye shooter and a guy that closes at the basket and his assist ratio will improve.
It's a bit of a misleading argument between Zoom and DA. We're talking a sophomore vs a senior who played on a championship team.
Just look at DA's numbers his sophomore year, most folks would have given up on him by that point.
Zoom may take a massive leap forward, he has the potential and athleticism for it, hopefully it translates and we have a star in the making. If not, he's still a productive player that isn't THAT far off from where DA was this year.
One of the more delusional posts I’ve seen here. He’s more Briscoe if Briscoe had been higher usage and shot a bit more. I agree he’s better than Lowe but I don’t think he’s as good as Aberdeen. If he could shoot even halfway respectable then he could be great but he hasn’t come close to proving that.
If and only if the roster has Stokes, Freeman and atleast 2+ high level shooters added. If we go into the year with a roster that shoots like last year then no I don’t believe he can. If we don’t have shooters on both sides of the floor then the defense will just sag and dare him to shoot and Zoom can’t shoot. Hes like Oweh in that he needs driving lanes but he’s an even more extreme case IMO.
But with that said, this time last year I’d said that Silas Demary couldn’t take a team to the Elite 8, let alone a final 4.
One thing I’ve found funny about the Wright/Zoom thing, I’ve seen our fans here claim Wright was no big loss because he’s been at two Big 12 programs the last two years and neither won anything but at the same time not saying a word about Zoom being in the Big 10 and winning less than 30 games combined the last two years. I don’t know, it just feels like last year where Pope missed on plan a/b at every position. We all got rightfully worried but then he got his plan c/d and then a certain portion of the people here talked themselves into how great the guys were that he landed and how we didn’t need the ones he missed on. Just feels like a rerun.
Let me clarify, Metrics for a PG. Effeciency, Assists, mid range %, Conversion etc. That's what a PG is supposed to do, He ranked in the 90%+ in every advanced metric and was one of the most efficient outside the rim and inside the arc. His midrange game is superb. There's a reason he will end up being drafted and Oweh won't. Diallo is a more complete player, of course he is a PG and not a 2/3 like Oweh so not all comparisons will be equal or an upgrade in regards to rebounding etc.
One could argue who was better last year, Aberdeen or Diallo.
Diallo’s last season, however, was better than any season Aberdeen had at Florida.
Diallo’s last season, however, was better than any season Aberdeen had at Florida.
the more I read the more I like this guy
stay healthy Zoom, please...stay healthy
stay healthy Zoom, please...stay healthy
Diallo last season took almost exactly the same number of shots from 2 and 3 as Oweh did as a junior.
Diallo is not the exact copy of Oweh. At least offensively, he should offer some role compression. Diallo, as a high usage guard with similar 2 vs 3 shot distribution, offers more assists with his possessions.
Diallo is not the exact copy of Oweh. At least offensively, he should offer some role compression. Diallo, as a high usage guard with similar 2 vs 3 shot distribution, offers more assists with his possessions.
I think Zoom is a far better passer than Lowe. The thing I like most about Zoom is his ability to get to the lane. He has some Oweh in him with his knack on getting to the rim.
Diallo is a better PG than Aberdeen. I think he is a better player than Lowe overall. Much higher upside.
For sure. Aberdeen was the actual PG last season. Zoom and Aberdeen are pretty similar. Analytically Aberdeen is a bit more productive.
Jalen Lowe (last year at Pitt)...16 pts a game, 5.5 assist vs. 3 To, 4.2 reb, 1.8 steals but 37% FG and 26%3pt
Zoom Diallo....15 pts a game, 15pts a game, 4.5 assist vs. 2.5 To, 4 reb, .7 steals on 49% FG and 31%3pt
So, it's pretty obvious....Diallo is way more efficient of a shooter than Lowe ever was. Plus, he's 6'4 vs. 6'2 for Lowe.... I never got why Pope went for Lowe who is so inefficient last year...
And I'd add Diallo took a big step from Freshman year to Sophmore year in shooting better. I'd hope a Jr year would see a bit more bump and for all of Pope warts....he tends to get kids shooting better in his system (i.e. Butler, Aberdeen got better, Chandler got better, etc..)
Zoom Diallo....15 pts a game, 15pts a game, 4.5 assist vs. 2.5 To, 4 reb, .7 steals on 49% FG and 31%3pt
So, it's pretty obvious....Diallo is way more efficient of a shooter than Lowe ever was. Plus, he's 6'4 vs. 6'2 for Lowe.... I never got why Pope went for Lowe who is so inefficient last year...
And I'd add Diallo took a big step from Freshman year to Sophmore year in shooting better. I'd hope a Jr year would see a bit more bump and for all of Pope warts....he tends to get kids shooting better in his system (i.e. Butler, Aberdeen got better, Chandler got better, etc..)
Man, IDK. Williams isn't going to be able to play valuable mins. Zoom is a 28-32 mins/game dude.