Rutgers Basketball center Emmanuel Ogbole set to enter Transfer Portal
Rutgers Basketball center Emmanuel Ogbole announces that he will enter the Transfer Portal after just three seasons with the Scarlet Knights.
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Basketball Rutgers big man Emmanuel Ogbole is entering the Transfer Portal
- Thread starter Richie O
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Unlike most players who seek an extra year, EO graduated in four years (1 JUCO & 3 RU). Why wouldn't the NCAA reward someone who is the definition of a student-athlete? Then again, the NCAA is full of sh*t too.
LOL. I guess a backup at real program or a mid major who pays might be better for him. However, I can’t see anyone giving him the chances that Pike did.
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Assuming he gets his waiver, I can see a decent team paying him as a backup center.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if he gets more touches and easy buckets with a coach who understands the offensive game better than Pike.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if he gets more touches and easy buckets with a coach who understands the offensive game better than Pike.
It’s funny we probably would love to have him back … not sure the lol
It’s unreal the hate for him. He’s going to get close to 7 figures somewhere. Good for him.
He’s unlikely to get his waiver and even if he did, they have no interest in bringing him back.
“We would love to have him back” tells you more about Pike’s deteriorating so-called program than Ogbole’s value. The bar just keeps getting lower. He’s a B1G starter in no one’s universe.
who exactly said he was a starter?
Pike was a guard, is surrounded by guards, and only knows guards. Miles and Cliff.. 2 guys, 11 years. All you need to know. He is out of his league in the B1G. Even those 2 who I really appreciated were no B1G centers. Just like Greg needed forever to realize the size needed on the o and d lines to compete.
He doesn't qualify for a waiver under current NCAA rules. Full stop. That said, maybe the NCAA will change its rules, specifically, extend the Diego Pavia rule (JUCO doesn't count) to 2026 and beyond. Or maybe they give Ogbole an extra year just because they feel like it. But he is in no way entitled to the extra year, nor should he have any reason to expect it.
Every good offense is designed to get your best players shots. EO is not going to get more touches or more shots on a decent team. Zero chance. Maybe a much worse team.
That doesn’t really add up. Why would we have no interest in Ogbole but be reaching out to DePaul’s 3rd string center? We can’t possibly think he’s an upgrade can we? He’s not close to even comparable. Big O is at least physical. And whether Maker was a serious prospect or not doesn’t matter. The fact that someone even took the time to contact him says it all.
I disagree. Offenses are designed to get high percentage shots. Who shot a higher percentage than Manny?
And remember we’re talking about a backup center, so when I say more touches, I mean he would go from being a 5 and 5 guy to an 7 and 5 guy in his backup role on a decent team.
My prediction is he goes to upper tier mid major conference (middle of the pack team) he puts up similar numbers to what Wolf did for Miami. And probably gets close to 7 figures for it too. If he’s eligible.
But look - Thinking more about it, we were not in a position to hope he gets a waiver and plan accordingly so maybe that’s the reason we had no interest. That would actually make sense if the waiver is deemed “doubtful”.
The only think he had going for him was his height and he could block shots. He looked the part, nice guy, not a P4 player. Zero offensive skills, other than dunks, bad hands, foul machine. Always outplayed on rebounds.
Need better 5 production I don’t care if he looks like an Adonis. 6’9” and above with skill sets please.
Need better 5 production I don’t care if he looks like an Adonis. 6’9” and above with skill sets please.
He started 30 of 34 games this season and some of Pike’s attempts at acquiring a transfer big man have resulted in players like Ralph “man amongst boys” Agee and Baye Fall
Actually, he did something most kids are not doing in this era of transferring multiple times, that is graduating... with two degrees. If the NCAA talks a good game, then is a good time to live by it. There is the TE from Oregon who received waivers out the @SS and played 8 seasons. I can name more. This is why EO should get one extra year.
And we’re looking at getting similar quality this year too EO would have been good to bring back as a backup
Richie reporting they have no interest in bringing him back based on who they are after is mind blowing
unless they have targeted a LEGIT euro
Always outplayed on rebounds, yet was the teams best rebounder, by far, for two years. Not his fault he had to start. We do need better production, but I could make an argument we need it out of the 3 and 4 just as much.
Just looking at % is fools gold. Remember when Cliff shot 62-63% as a freshman/sophomore? They didn’t run action for him. He cleaned up missed shots and got easy buckets. The next year he was given more touches / shot opportunities and his shooting % dropped to 50%. On top of all of that, Cliff was light years better than EO.
Today, EO scores a lot in 1 on 0 situations. No defense. Rutgers did not feed him for good reason. Teams feed bigs that create a miss match. EO can’t really finish unless it’s an uncontested shot. Plus on defense, teams quickly figured out that he can’t guard pick and rolls. That causes major issues.
To EO’s credit, he has just started learning how to play. It’s a lot to catch up to players with much higher game IQ. At times this year he showed improvement and flashes but the vast majority of the season was a struggle.
The fact that we couldn't coach him on the PnR's was amazing to me. I blame the coaches for that, he seemed almost as lost on where to be at the end of the season as he was two years ago.
The jury is out as to whether we will wish to have him back … but if Rutgers doesn’t get creative in portal it won’t be a good look to just dismiss him like it sounds like we did
I’m actually going to defend the staff on this one after giving it more thought. Give Pike some credit for doing the right thing. If what Richie said is accurate, the status of EO’s waiver is unknown, so he might not be eligible to play. RU is not in a position to “wait and see”. Technically, EO could still return to RU (he won’t) but if he didn’t put his name in the portal he’d have no options other than RU if he is granted the waiver. He was advised properly and I’d like to think our staff was honest that we couldn’t wait around to find out under any circumstance.
good , he's awful and I'm sick of watching him
and yeah the replacing big will be awful but at least there is .0005% chance of a higher ceiling and some hope with a new guy, whereas with Ogbole we're here
and yeah the replacing big will be awful but at least there is .0005% chance of a higher ceiling and some hope with a new guy, whereas with Ogbole we're here
good , he's awful and I'm sick of watching him
and yeah the replacing big will be awful but at least there is .0005% chance of a higher ceiling and some hope with a new guy, whereas with Ogbole we're here
We’re talking to upper class 3rd strings from DePaul, so no, I don’t think that’s accurate.
The only center we’re talking to averaged 1.3 PPG at DEPAUL and barely saw the floor theregood , he's awful and I'm sick of watching him
and yeah the replacing big will be awful but at least there is .0005% chance of a higher ceiling and some hope with a new guy, whereas with Ogbole we're here
EO would probably have dominated him last year
Probably?
Ogbole missed most of the 2023-24 season due to injury. He STILL logged more more minutes than Maker (not having played in the OOC schedule) while competing for time with Cliff and Wolf.
You know that’s not true. The DePaul kid is the only player you heard about and it’s even likely untrue. It’s been said many times that the staff operates in silence. We won’t know who the sign until it’s announced or it somehow gets leaked on mistake.
And look what happened when Cliff went to play for an offensive-minded coach, his shooting percentage went up to 74%, by far the highest in his career.
I envision something similar for Manny if he gets the waiver and plays for a better coach. Cliff was a terrible offensive player his last 2 seasons under Pike, had terrible hands, and couldn’t finish around the rim unless it was a dunk.
All I’m saying is, in a part-time (backup) role that Manny would do better than he did here, with a decent team and better head coach.
Silence because nobody else is interested in the kids they talk to lol
I’m hopeful until the roster is complete
Agreed about the first part but it’s pretty doubtful the Maker kid randomly made up that we reached out to him. That said, we don’t know the timing so there’s a small chance that happened before Pike knew Ware was returning. I say doubtful because ware was our first announced returnee so that was probably nailed down a while ago which would mean the outreach to Maker (even if casual) was not as a 3rd string but likely to compete with Ware for the back up role.
The Doorson comparison is pretty accurate
Doorson 121 gm, 1482 min, 254pts(2.1), 336 reb(2.8) 58%
3.7pts, 4.3reb senior season.
Ogbole 67gm, 1031 min, 251pts(3.7), 310reb(4.6) 58%
Doorson just played more unproductive games early in his career.
Doorson 121 gm, 1482 min, 254pts(2.1), 336 reb(2.8) 58%
3.7pts, 4.3reb senior season.
Ogbole 67gm, 1031 min, 251pts(3.7), 310reb(4.6) 58%
Doorson just played more unproductive games early in his career.
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We didn’t just let our starting 4 and 5 walk. All 3 back ups who averaged more than 10 mpg (Dortch, Nwuli and Denis) are also gone along with Fall who didn’t play at all. They will need to add at least 4 new frontcourt players, right? Okay maybe one or two max could be unknown Euros but we can’t plan to add 4 of those can we?
With the backcourt, at least we can feel pretty good that we’re netting positive year over year. Jones didn’t play last year so Duarte can’t possibly contribute less than him. Zrno made some 3s, but 33.8% isn’t moving mountains. Plus his D stunk. I don’t think it’s concerning to hope Wooten and Powers in combination can more than make up for this loss.
The longer our frontcourt sits at ground zero, with a grand total of 2 career points against Rider, the more worried I become.
That’s not what happened. Cliff went back to a role with limited touches. Mostly put backs and 1 on 0. No defense. He went from 8-10 FG attempts to 4 with Alabama.
You’re making my point. Cliff went to a better team with a better coach who limited his minutes to 19 per game, same as EO, and Cliff still got 4 shots per game versus 3 for Manny.
Here’s a comparison:
Cliff: 19m, 6.5 reb, 1.1 blks, 7.9 pts, 73%FG
EO: 19m, 6.0 reb, 1.2 blks, 4.7 pts, 60%FG
(Cliff also averaged 2.6 fouls, Manny only 2.2)
My point is that in a better system Manny’s FG% and point total would also improve, even if he only got one more shot per game.
Even at that, their numbers don’t seem to be too far off, especially when you consider how much Cliff got paid. Surely, a team will see the value in having EO as a backup center.