HS recruits. Hoiberg landed Taj D. Sam Orme, Damon W. Boden Kapke, Kadyn B, Trevan Leonhardt N the portal

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Indiana Football got a blank check from Mark Cuban. It's not like they had no money to build a championship roster. But Basketball is different in that you only have 5 starters, compared to 22 for football. So now the handful of teams with the most money are basically building College Basketball All-Star teams by poaching the best players from the other programs. The days of a school finding underrated recruits and developing them into stars who lead them on an NCAA tournament run are pretty much over.

As far as college classes, my point was more about how credits transfer when you've already been to 3 different schools in 3 years. Most colleges only accept a certain number of transfer credits from other colleges, and many times credits don't transfer at all except for gen eds.
I agree and I agree.
 

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Ya he is going backwards in the portal . I agree the agent is trying to build him up . I seriously doubt Fred even knows who this kid is .
I agree, but looks like Fred offered. If it pans out, Fred is quite the talent evaluater and developer.
 

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I agree, but looks like Fred offered. If it pans out, Fred is quite the talent evaluater and developer.
we will see. This kids issue is either the injury bug or not: but going from Kansas. Illinois etc.. in a couple years to Tennessee tech is pretty telling.
 
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The mop up time vs game tape time is always an interesting debate.

This is just my guess but I am assuming by about that second year, those kids kind of know if they are an NFL guy or not...Not all of them but a good amount. At that point, it should be all about making as much loot as you can in your 5 year window. Because once that time is up, you are just another account exec at Noobies.
Are you ok with the 5 year window? Seems kind of arbitrary? If players and coaches can move around at will and schools have unlimited NIL why in the world should you only be allowed to enjoy this system for 5 years?
 

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Actually Fred offered him in high school. He was a 4-star recruit who had offers from Kansas, Illinois, and many other big-name programs. He missed most of this season with injury. He must have some talent to have those offers - Fred might be wanting to take a chance on him as a backup that could give some depth if healthy.


Sounds like a high upside candidate.
 

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If this kid pans out, would show off Fred’s picker.

This one reminds me of a Frost pick. Injured star with little real production.

I’m a fan of the Cignetti model- proven production at any level that can take hard coaching
 
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Are you ok with the 5 year window? Seems kind of arbitrary? If players and coaches can move around at will and schools have unlimited NIL why in the world should you only be allowed to enjoy this system for 5 years?
Because I think the straw that broke the camels back is the influx of European players coming in after playing professionally for several years. 25 year olds playing against 18-20 year olds just for a money grab. I think it's a start and a good move to try to bring things back in control somewhat. 5 years is enough
 

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Are you ok with the 5 year window? Seems kind of arbitrary? If players and coaches can move around at will and schools have unlimited NIL why in the world should you only be allowed to enjoy this system for 5 years?
I mean, I get it...I don't really care either though.

For me, I don't really root for the "player", I root for the team. So if the teams I root for can have a bunch of dudes that are in their 8th year of college ball and they are dominating, I am fine with that.
 
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The PG from High Point who dismantled Wisconsin and hung 30 on Arkansas is now in the portal:

Rob Martin

Looked very much like a "shoot first" guy in the tournament, but in the regular season he averaged 16 ppg on just 12 shots, which isn't bad. Shot 84% from the FT line.
 
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I think you’re right, most kids should know around that time. For me it’s less about the kids making their money, which I can agree with, they should make it while they can for as long as they can. It has more to do with roster continuity, and bringing back the feel of college athletics.
I'm with Trump. From what I heard, he is saying one transfer only and then another transfer if you graduate. Don't need this yearly free agency crap.

Second thing is you only get to play four years. Redshirt? Fine. But I heard a rumor about the NCAA proposing five years of eligibility. That's dumb as hell. And no more professional players being allowed back to school to play out their eligibility. It's becoming a f'n joke.
 
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I'm with Trump. From what I heard, he is saying one transfer only and then another transfer if you graduate. Don't need this yearly free agency crap.

Second thing is you only get to play four years. Redshirt? Fine. But I heard a rumor about the NCAA proposing five years of eligibility. That's dumb as hell. And no more professional players being allowed back to school to play out their eligibility. It's becoming a f'n joke.
The NCAA has been an F’n joke for a lot longer than this… shoot before NIL and paying athletes SEC teams were openly paying players with the kids posting the money on socials and nothing was done.

I liked Trumps starting points in his EO, and part of that was 5 years of eligibility, and I can get on board with that. It’s basically 5 years now, or 8 or 10 or however many schools and players can sue for. But if you go by just the basic eligibility rules it’s 4 with a redshirt, and during that redshirt you can play up to 3 games? Or is it 4 now? I can’t remember…

So just get rid of that redshirt season all together and say you have 5 years of eligibility no more, I think after their sophomore year, they can put their name in the draft, if they’re drafted they can’t go back to college, if not drafted then they can go back. If they implemented something like that then, I’d like to see the NCAA say you can just pull your name out from the draft all they way til 1 April after that you’re staying in the draft for all 7 rounds. That gives the NFL a clear picture of who’s still in the draft and makes them draft based on talent in the last rounds instead of who they think they can get cheaper as a UDFA
 
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I'm with Trump. From what I heard, he is saying one transfer only and then another transfer if you graduate. Don't need this yearly free agency crap.

Second thing is you only get to play four years. Redshirt? Fine. But I heard a rumor about the NCAA proposing five years of eligibility. That's dumb as hell. And no more professional players being allowed back to school to play out their eligibility. It's becoming a f'n joke.
People freak about all these new rules, but I don't think I've heard one person mention how our bball program benefitted immensely from all these rules. Mast had played 4 years before even transfering to NU? And stayed another 3 years?

Sandfort transfers, immediately eligible, dominates, and normally would have gone pro. He didn't, because of NIL.

Lawrence transferred a 2nd time, immediately eligible again.
 

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Also, guys playing for 4 different schools in 4 years is ridiculous. Why even make them go to class anymore? How can you possibly finish a college degree after going to a different school every year?
When is the last time someone has heard about a player getting academically ineligible or getting suspended by their own coaching staff for cutting class?
 

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When is the last time someone has heard about a player getting academically ineligible or getting suspended by their own coaching staff for cutting class?

I have a hard time believing these kids are doing any academic work, let alone completing college degrees. They have to take all online courses with all of the travel they do...what degrees even allow you to do all of your upper-level coursework online?
 
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I liked Trumps starting points in his EO, and part of that was 5 years of eligibility, and I can get on board with that. It’s basically 5 years now, or 8 or 10 or however many schools and players can sue for. But if you go by just the basic eligibility rules it’s 4 with a redshirt, and during that redshirt you can play up to 3 games? Or is it 4 now? I can’t remember…
The rule was once you enroll, you have five years to play four. Only Mormon missions, military duty and a few other exceptions. The idea of saying f it, make it play five years is stupid and unnecessary. Why change? There's nothing different now that should make it any different.

Playing juco used to cost you a year. Now it doesn't count. That's also dumb, but if I was a good prospect-- especially a late bloomer-- who didn't have a good offer out of HS I would go to an Iowa Western type of place. Play a year or two and then go off to a four year school.
 

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People freak about all these new rules, but I don't think I've heard one person mention how our bball program benefitted immensely from all these rules. Mast had played 4 years before even transfering to NU? And stayed another 3 years?

Sandfort transfers, immediately eligible, dominates, and normally would have gone pro. He didn't, because of NIL.

Lawrence transferred a 2nd time, immediately eligible again.
Right, but this isn't an inherent advantage for NU long term and it's still ridiculous in my opinion. Just as it's helped NU, it didn't help NU prior to that.

I looked into Mast's career. Played three years at Bradley with a redshirt. Had two to play two when he transferred in. Played a season, sat out with an injury and then played last year. So Mast had six seasons to play four. The NCAA granted him a sixth year to play his fourth season. I don't agree with the decision but I didn't lose any sleep on it. But anyway, Mast did only play for four seasons. This idea of everyone playing five seasons is different.
 

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I have a hard time believing these kids are doing any academic work, let alone completing college degrees. They have to take all online courses with all of the travel they do...what degrees even allow you to do all of your upper-level coursework online?
Yeah, there are kids who are not going to any classes. Just online "work" completed by tutors. But at NU there still are some kids going to class. I heard a story about a couple football players who were going to miss a test in order to travel to a game and asked for the test to be moved back in order to better accommodate them. The other students were against it, but they were pleasantly surprised when the professor said no. Good for them.
 

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The rule was once you enroll, you have five years to play four. Only Mormon missions, military duty and a few other exceptions. The idea of saying f it, make it play five years is stupid and unnecessary. Why change? There's nothing different now that should make it any different.

Playing juco used to cost you a year. Now it doesn't count. That's also dumb, but if I was a good prospect-- especially a late bloomer-- who didn't have a good offer out of HS I would go to an Iowa Western type of place. Play a year or two and then go off to a four I can agre

The rule was once you enroll, you have five years to play four. Only Mormon missions, military duty and a few other exceptions. The idea of saying f it, make it play five years is stupid and unnecessary. Why change? There's nothing different now that should make it any different.

Playing juco used to cost you a year. Now it doesn't count. That's also dumb, but if I was a good prospect-- especially a late bloomer-- who didn't have a good offer out of HS I would go to an Iowa Western type of place. Play a year or two and then go off to a four year school.
I do agree that Juco years not counting is dumb, but as far as not having 5 to play 5 being stupid I don’t agree with that. The whole “but it’s always been done that way” argument doesn’t stick for me. Just because things have always been done that way, it doesn’t mean it’s the right way or the only way. 5 to play 5 makes sense as for a development process, I’d rather a kid get snaps during a game even if it’s not meaningful snaps over a kid riding pine. Rules get out dated and archaic sometimes, nothing has to have changed for that to be true, kids are bigger, faster, and stronger coming out of high school now more than ever.
 

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Yeah, there are kids who are not going to any classes. Just online "work" completed by tutors. But at NU there still are some kids going to class. I heard a story about a couple football players who were going to miss a test in order to travel to a game and asked for the test to be moved back in order to better accommodate them. The other students were against it, but they were pleasantly surprised when the professor said no. Good for them.

Football players are able to go to class because they play on Saturdays, and only play a few road games a year, so would only miss a few Fridays for travel.

But basketball teams - these guys aren't going to class. They all must just major in general studies or something they can do online.
 

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When is the last time someone has heard about a player getting academically ineligible or getting suspended by their own coaching staff for cutting class?
Players get suspended all the time for breaking “ team rules “ most of the time it has to do with academics
 
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I'm with Trump. From what I heard, he is saying one transfer only and then another transfer if you graduate. Don't need this yearly free agency crap.

Second thing is you only get to play four years. Redshirt? Fine. But I heard a rumor about the NCAA proposing five years of eligibility. That's dumb as hell. And no more professional players being allowed back to school to play out their eligibility. It's becoming a f'n joke.
Becoming?
 
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When is the last time someone has heard about a player getting academically ineligible or getting suspended by their own coaching staff for cutting class?
95% of these athletes won’t step foot in the classroom. All online
 

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95% of these athletes won’t step foot in the classroom. All online
Which probably isn't that different from a lot of students. Have a kid in college and he takes half online classes because they don't even offer in-person for those courses.
 

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Which probably isn't that different from a lot of students. Have a kid in college and he takes half online classes because they don't even offer in-person for those courses.

My sister is a teacher and did an Education Master's program all online. She said it was a joke. The "professors" don't even teach. She had an online textbook with quizzes built in (that you can just Google the answers and re-take as many times as you want). It grades everything automatically. She's not sure what the professors even do. But the tuition was still like $1200 per class.
 

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My sister is a teacher and did an Education Master's program all online. She said it was a joke. The "professors" don't even teach. She had an online textbook with quizzes built in (that you can just Google the answers and re-take as many times as you want). It grades everything automatically. She's not sure what the professors even do. But the tuition was still like $1200 per class.
The quiz and testing protocols and software they have is pretty intense. He came home a day early for a break and had to take a test in his room and he said make sure my dumbass brothers don't come in my room or I fail automatically. The software will supposedly pick up on any voices or people in the room during the test. They can also tell if you click off the test to search on Google or whatever. Seems crazy. Kids will have to revert back to storing answers in their TI-86.
 
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The quiz and testing protocols and software they have is pretty intense. He came home a day early for a break and had to take a test in his room and he said make sure my dumbass brothers don't come in my room or I fail automatically. The software will supposedly pick up on any voices or people in the room during the test. They can also tell if you click off the test to search on Google or whatever. Seems crazy. Kids will have to revert back to storing answers in their TI-86.
They track your eye movement too! It is insane!
 
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