It's very difficult for short term folks like you to see the big picture. This is way over your 10th grade mentality of me, me, me. Oh, the poor Iranian Mullahs.you mean like it was before Trump started the war 5 weeks ago?
Trump to kill 93 million people tonight.
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you won't agree, but Trump is not a dumb person. He knows that murdering 93 million people would definitely bring him before a war crimes tribunal...and you know what, all of us know that too.
That's why when you made the post that started this thread, many of knew the thesis was nonsense.
Cute coming from draft dodging coward like Trump.
And back to my question. Obviously he wasn’t serious, so why did people believe him last night when he said there was a cease fire? How do you decide when he is and isn’t lying
Serious question … Are you retarded? If not….
Again, please provide link where Trump says that he’s going to KILL 93 MILLION
Other countries said it as well. Iran said it, and you sure have pushed enough of their propaganda.
The ceasefire included Lebanon last night. Of course Trump’s masters in Israel didn’t sign off on it. Why it’s funny pro war/ big gov conservatives were celebrating his lies.
you were smart enough to know Trump was lying when he said he was killing 93 million civilians last night. So did you also know he was lying about his cease fire agreement?
The strait is closed and any ship allowed through are paying Iran a fee. Before the conflict it was free to cross.
so what was the Iran mission again?
No, Lebanon was not included. The U.S. was very specific about that. You need real sources.
Good to see you come to your senses and denounce unhinged behavior that has been going on over a decade. Maybe you are making a turn for the better. Or maybe the new meds are working.
Was included with irans demands. So are you denying that the strait is closed right now?
you seem to ignore it takes 2 to negotiate. And Trump himself said he received a 10 point proposal from Iran. Iran posted these 10 points publicly and you’re still denying it.
Trump doesn’t care about Lebanon. His masters in Israel do. This is why when he talks it’s not relevant. Wake me up when Israel agrees to a ceasefire.
You repeat the same stupid sh&t all your friends on here post. You're like a little kid going, na, na, na, na ,na, na.
You know exactly what the mission is. You expect stuff done in less than 24 hours which is utter nonsense. That never happens in history. It didn't happen after Nagasaki or Hiroshima. It was 6 days after the 2nd nuclear bomb before Japan surrendered. Japanese soldiers on islands were still fighting 30 years later not knowing the war was over. You expect this done in hours. It beyond laughable and disingenuous. This is nothing but politics for folks like you.
Not once have you made a positive comment on your own regarding the success of our military in Iran. You've made dozens of Iranian propaganda and anti-Trump comments. Y'all even mocked Trump over the rescue of our pilots. Look in the mirror.
Yeah. Trump is a big government liberal loser. I’m a conservative so I’d never support the career democrat.
and let me guess, WSJ is also a liberal outlet that pushes Iranian propaganda? Like I said earlier, Trump’s master never agreed to the ceasefire.
And fun fact. If we were both in Israel I’d be allowed to enter the bomb shelter while your gentile self would not.
They think it doesn't matter. Even if it's terrible for America and future administrations, Trump owned the EU libs and that's the most important thing. The forum rules won't allow me to post the entire article, so breaking it into two posts.
The U.S. is losing Europe faster than Americans realize
Europeans are hedging against coercion in security, trade, education — and everyday life.As an American living in Europe, I am frequently asked if my compatriots understand the extent of the damage being done to all facets of transatlantic relations by the Trump administration’s bullying policies. My answer is, sadly, no.
More and more Europeans no longer view the United States as a reliable ally. The reasons are not hard to find. The president has threatened to leave NATO, sidelined allies in negotiations over Ukraine’s future, imposed steep tariffs on the European Union and threatened to seize Greenland by force — prompting Europeans to prepare for the real prospect of military conflict with their oldest ally. One recent survey found that one-quarter or more of respondents in some countries — including France, Germany and Spain — see the United States as a rival or adversary. Another found that an absolute majority view Trump as an “enemy” of Europe and U.S. foreign policy as “recolonization.” Polls also reflect a growing belief that China is a more dependable partner.
But the damage goes far beyond public opinion. Across multiple domains, the practical foundations of the transatlantic relationship are eroding.
The U.S. is losing access to European bases and intelligence. When the U.S. and Israel first attacked Iran, a joint statement by Britain, France and Germany pointedly noted their lack of involvement. A growing number of European countries have refused to authorize base or airspace access for offensive military operations, while Poland reportedly denied a U.S. request to transfer air defense systems. These actions follow Britain’s significant but barely noticed decision last fall to suspend intelligence sharing about suspected drug trafficking boats in the Caribbean given concerns about legally dubious U.S. strikes.
The U.S. is also losing European business. As European governments increase their defense budgets, they are unsurprisingly using taxpayer euros to support domestic arms manufacturers. The Trump administration has threatened retaliation if their procurement bids exclude American companies — while at the same time rerouting U.S. munitions already purchased by Europe for the Pentagon’s use in Iran.
Dude, are you ever honest? You make so much stuff up it's unbelievable. Last night, while y'all were literally saying Trump agreed to terms, I literally stated, those were Iran's terms, and Trump never agreed to them.
Who cares what Iran says. They never honor anything. Lebanon was never agreed to. Yet, you believe even more Iranian propaganda as if it's true. Again, you show zero critical thinking skills.
This dynamic isn’t limited to governments — it’s reaching ordinary consumers and financial markets. There is growing support for “Buy European” movements. In the Nordic countries, new apps scan a product’s barcode, view its origin and identify local alternatives. Dutch citizens are deleting Google Maps in favor of national options. Retail and institutional investors, including pension funds, are shifting away from U.S. equities amid fears the U.S. Treasury could freeze European assets. The E.U. is also expediting new trade deals with partners like India and Mercosur.
The U.S. is losing the confidence of European officials. Viewing the U.S. as a security risk, E.U. civil servants are required to bring burner phones and laptops on work trips to avoid possible espionage. During meetings in Brussels in my academic capacity, I was surprised when my E.U. interlocutors were joined by at least one colleague — a requirement for conversations with Americans to prevent misunderstandings. When I served in the U.S. government, such practices occurred with foes like Russia and China but not with friends.
The U.S. is losing European students and its own professors. The Institute of International Education found the rate of new international students enrolling at U.S. universities dropped by 17 percent in 2025 compared with previous years. Citing fears of guns, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement activities and harassment, my European friends are discouraging their kids from applying. Growing anxiety has also led European students to cancel semester abroad plans. European universities are becoming more appealing destinations, with countries like Spain easing visa rules for students. They are also attracting American professors, offering “scientific asylum” to disaffected faculty.
And the U.S. is losing European tourists. The World Travel and Tourism Council found the U.S. was the only major destination to see a decline in foreign visitors last year, with a 6 percent drop. Europeans have been dissuaded by reports of intrusive visa requirements and travelers detained by airport immigration officials as well as the prospect of being deported in ICE raids. Some choose longer, pricier routes to avoid even transiting the U.S. Others, like a Brussels-based friend with a necessary work trip, utilized Dublin airport’s preclearance facility to ensure any potential problems would be addressed on European soil.
The U.S. and Europe, like all old allies, have faced challenging periods before. I was a graduate student in Europe during the George W. Bush administration, when the Iraq War sparked protests and raised doubts about shared values. But this moment is qualitatively different. The rupture isn’t confined to governments and policy. It has filtered down to students, tourists, consumers and ordinary citizens. Europeans long viewed the U.S. as the indispensable power. They learned English by watching American movies, dreamed of visiting New York and bought Levi’s jeans. Now, hope and admiration have been replaced by fear and even disdain.
Although future U.S. administrations will undoubtedly seek to reverse these trends, the road back will be harder than most Americans realize. Alliances, like friendships, require mutual trust and respect, which take years to build, moments to destroy — and could take at least a generation to repair.
You are unbelievable. There are no gatekeepers at Israel bomb shelters. That was pro-Palestinian propaganda.
The strait was open this morning. After Israel killed civilians in Lebanon today it’s now closed. And you ignore the Wall Street journal article stating Israel was upset and didn’t agree to the terms…
you’re the guy that thinks I’m a liberal because I don’t like Trump for being a big government, deficit spending liberal. I’m conservative. Trump banning bump stocks alone made me a never trumpster. Thank god the Supreme Court ruled his executive order was illegal.
India just received their first boat of Iranian oil in 7 years since the sanctions.
so Iran now charges a toll and gets sanctions lifted. Winning.
Just admit, you keep pushing Iranian propaganda, and you verify none of it. All to get Trump.
We were told by the MAGA dipshits that Iran's nuke program had been decimated/obliterated last year...only to find out that they were apparently two weeks away from nuking the entire world a month ago!
So were Trump and Hegseth lying then, or are they lying now? Hard to keep the lies straight when Trump opens his mouth.
Imagine being as stupid as the Trump supporters on this board. Even his biggest fluffers are dunking on him this morning for leaving Iran stronger than it was 5 weeks ago.
All folks like you do is mince works to suit your agenda. Everyone in the world knew, they had uranium in separate locations, that we decimated their main location, and others remained. It was a warning to Iran, and they kept going. Now they can't. They have nothing left but speed boats and some missiles.
Keep pushing the propaganda against Trump instead of supporting of military and getting rid of the regime in Iran.
You’re using the same liberal play book when people spoke out against Ukraine war. I’m also against us involvement in that but back then I was accused of pushing Russian propaganda. You can only repeat NPC talking points haha.
Funny how you say I don’t have independent thought while you can’t respond to any of my points. Funny hearing a gentile that a Sephardic Jew is pushing Iranian propaganda.
and Trump’s master Netanyah is talking at 1:15. Really no point listening to Trump went he master speaks.
nonpayment is subject to sinking.
As I was thinking about that, it would be really cool if we could, say, impose the death penalty on subway fare evaders or use drone strikes against HOV violators
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If that is Captain Houseboat's word cloud, you omitted to include "I
horse dick."In tact?
Usually I don't do that sort of thing as Bear does unless the error is inherently funny, but this one is one of my pet peeves.
I illustrated to you how vapid your analogy was, by presenting one that actually paralleled the current situation ... and this nonsense is what you come up with?!?
So, I utilize valid and sound logical syllogisms, you use ranting nonsense and then you try to claim that I'm running off emotion, and you're logical? Just how hard did your horses kick you in the head today?
Committing war crimes is conclusive evidence that you are evil.
Threatening to commit war crimes is conclusive evidence you are evil.
Threatening genocide is conclusive evidence that you are evil.
Knowingly and purposefully supporting evil is conclusive evidence that you are evil.
Iran’s Nuclear Facilities Have Been Obliterated — and Suggestions Otherwise are Fake News
The world is far safer after President Donald J. Trump’s highly successful, decisive precision strikes against the Iranian regime’s key nuclear
www.whitehouse.gov
You still have not disproven my point. Other countries no longer trust our regime in charge. We can no longer be taken on our word.