Trilly Scoop on Chandler (Yikes)

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but if they didnt, he would have gone to unc or bama. and you would be saying....letting a local kid go to a competitor is a fireable offense.
Not necessarily. I do not care where kids are from. We don't need mascots or warm stories. Then again, I am a TX born/raised Cat fan who found my way to UK before settling in Atlanta after college (but get back to LEX often and follow the basketball and football teams on the road some). While I love The Bluegrass, my loyalty is to us winning and not to talent geography.

That said, I thought JJ would develop into an okay talent for us in time. He still might, just not as a Cat. Hindsight is of course 20/20, but also proves the staff misevaluated talent (which is a BIG part of their jobs) in taking JJ over Mullins.

Do I honestly think it is a fireable offense? No. However, it adds to the deck that is stacking due to the disaster that was the assembly of the '25 - '26 team.
 
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kyjeff1

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You ask high in a negotiation and settle for a comfortable median for both parties. This is ongoing until you hear a formal announcement from Chandler that he is staying. Now that BYU is losing Wright, they may up the ante for Chandler.
Yeah, but CC isn’t a pg. It'll be an interesting few days, but I get the feeling Chandler told them 3m is the amount it would take for him to leave UK.

I really think Chandler has the same mindset Moreno has. But, I could be way off on this.
 

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Giving Jasper Johnson $1.5M last year and losing Braylon Mullins as a result should be a fireable offense!
Nah, don't do that. Everyone and their mother loved the roster as Pope was signing these guys. Everyone here wanted Jasper.
Trying to act like anyone knew Jasper was going to suck and Mullins would hit a 30 footer to sink duke, is ridiculous.
If Mullins didn’t hit that shot, nobody even talks about him and Pope certainly didn't know Mullins would hit that shot back in April 2025.
 

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but if they didnt, he would have gone to unc or bama. and you would be saying....letting a local kid go to a competitor is a fireable offense.
100% this.

Not one single person on here had a negative thing to say about the roster, aside from "these guys aren't great shooters, but they'll improve in Mark's system".

If Pope signed Mullins and let JJ go, OMG, the crying about not getting the local kid, would have been unbearable.

The team was broken, Mullins would have sucked here this year, everything just went belly up.
 
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Yeah, but CC isn’t a pg. It'll be an interesting few days, but I get the feeling Chandler told them 3m is the amount it would take for him to leave UK.

I really think Chandler has the same mindset Moreno has. But, I could be way off on this.
Chandler is waiting to see who is added at his position.
If it's someone he has doubts he can beat out, he'll hit the portal.
 
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Chandler is waiting to see who is added at his position.
If it's someone he has doubts he can beat out, he'll hit the portal.
Yeah, I'm sure he wants a starting spot, but I'm not sure he's getting that at any high end program.

He’s a huge liability on defense. He gets put in an isolation situation way too often.
 

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100% this.

Not one single person on here had a negative thing to say about the roster, aside from "these guys aren't great shooters, but they'll improve in Mark's system".

If Pope signed Mullins and let JJ go, OMG, the crying about not getting the local kid, would have been unbearable.

The team was broken, Mullins would have sucked here this year, everything just went belly up.
and the reality is....every year there are going to be portal winners and losers. 2 years kansas and indiana "killed" the portal but had bad years, teams were a mess and did poorly. they spent massive amounts of money. last year it was us. next year someone else will whiff.

but every year is a chance to take another swing at it. if pope fails....so be it. but i dont get the constant negatively and hypocrisy (not by you) by the fans base who cant even get through 1 day in the portal without complaining about.....well everything.
 

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and the reality is....every year there are going to be portal winners and losers. 2 years kansas and indiana "killed" the portal but had bad years, teams were a mess and did poorly. they spent massive amounts of money. last year it was us. next year someone else will whiff.

but every year is a chance to take another swing at it. if pope fails....so be it. but i dont get the constant negatively and hypocrisy (not by you) by the fans base who cant even get through 1 day in the portal without complaining about.....well everything.
Oh yeah, when you construct an entirely new team, you're rolling the dice on so many things. Yeah, on paper, they might fit, but like we saw this year, if they don't fit, you're in deep trouble.
 
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Nah, don't do that. Everyone and their mother loved the roster as Pope was signing these guys. Everyone here wanted Jasper.
Trying to act like anyone knew Jasper was going to suck and Mullins would hit a 30 footer to sink duke, is ridiculous.
If Mullins didn’t hit that shot, nobody even talks about him and Pope certainly didn't know Mullins would hit that shot back in April 2025.
I am not claiming to be Nostradamus, but it is also not my job to evaluate talent. Hindsight gives us the ability to issue a report card. JJ over Mullins is an F now that the season has ended. Despite "The Shot", he had a solid season (12 PTS on 42.1%/33.5%/88.9% 3.5 REB 1.4 AST as a Freshman playing 28.3 minutes per game on a team that made the Championship game. Above his stats, the kid is gritty and all hustle and projected to be a potential mid-to-late lottery pick in stacked draft

At the time, I would have likely done the same. However, I would also own up to having not evaluated talent well enough to assemble a product worthy of the "name on the front of the jersey".
 

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Yeah, I'm sure he wants a starting spot, but I'm not sure he's getting that at any high end program.

He’s a huge liability on defense. He gets put in an isolation situation way too often.
I'm totally fine with CC leaving or staying.
Really don't like the dynamics of playing at UK and supposedly keeping a wife happy
She should be here with him like it in KY or not.
Honestly hope he's the last Mormon kid Pope brings to UK.
 

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I am not claiming to be Nostradamus, but it is also not my job to evaluate talent. Hindsight gives us the ability to issue a report card. JJ over Mullins is an F now that the season has ended. Despite "The Shot", he had a solid season (12 PTS on 42.1%/33.5%/88.9% 3.5 REB 1.4 AST as a Freshman playing 28.3 minutes per game on a team that made the Championship game. Above his stats, the kid is gritty and all hustle and projected to be a potential mid-to-late lottery pick in stacked draft

At the time, I would have likely done the same. However, I would also own up to having not evaluated talent well enough to assemble a product worthy of the "name on the front of the jersey".
Yeah, but nobody could predict these two players would play the way they did.
Pope did the right thing by landing the local kid, who was a 5*.
There are a lot of things to critisize Pope for, this isn’t one of them.
 
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I'm totally fine with CC leaving or staying.
Really don't like the dynamics of playing at UK and supposedly keeping a wife happy
She should be here with him like it in KY or not.
Honestly hope he's the last Mormon kid Pope brings to UK.
I hope he stays. In the right offense, he could get a ton of open threes.
 
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I'm totally fine with CC leaving or staying.
Really don't like the dynamics of playing at UK and supposedly keeping a wife happy
She should be here with him like it in KY or not.
Honestly hope he's the last Mormon kid Pope brings to UK.
The wife angle is annoying the hell out of me. Your husband, the breadwinner, makes millions playing basketball in Lexington, KY. Why is his wife in Utah? Nothing makes that necessary.

And when he is done playing, move wherever you want and your husband will have enough capital to start the finest dance studio in all of Utah. I know she’s young and probably homesick, but grow up, you’re a married adult with opportunities on a platter.
 

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That’s using hindsight.

If Pope would let a “Kentucky boy” “get away” to UNC in favor of a “white guy from Indiana,” this board would have lost its collective mind.
Understood and I have not debated it to be hindsight (heck, I sure was not upset at the time we signed JJ). However, when issuing an end-of-season report card, that is a failing grade (put it under Talent Evaluation 401).

Not that Mullins can hold Larry Bird's jock strap, but history would tell us we should maybe not overlook "white guy from Indiana" if they are serious about us. My feelings are race and geography should not play into evaluating talent/fit.

I missed on JJ (many of us did...so "F's" all around), but it is also not our $5M job to be right about players!
 

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We just need to save money and not spend anything next year so a new coach can come in and have a boat load of money to work with after next year.
 

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Yeah, but nobody could predict these two players would play the way they did.
Pope did the right thing by landing the local kid, who was a 5*.
There are a lot of things to critisize Pope for, this isn’t one of them.
Correct and who would've thought that half of the top 10 SG wouldn't be what we thought they would be. 1,2,3,6,7 are the only ones who did something.

 
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