Military Strikes on Iran Imminent

dpic73

Heisman
Jul 27, 2005
29,298
21,516
113
What are you even babbling about? Who said anything about an apology, numbnuts?
 

dpic73

Heisman
Jul 27, 2005
29,298
21,516
113


Ok. Here we go

Ari, you know better than this. You’ve been inside the room. You understand how alliances actually function, not just how they’re talked about on cable hits.

NATO was never meaningfully consulted here. Not brought in as partners. Not treated as allies whose buy-in mattered. Instead, for years they’ve been publicly dressed down, threatened, and told outright that they’re on their own. When the President of the United States repeatedly questions the value of the alliance, floats walking away from Article 5, and even talks about things like taking Greenland, you don’t get trust—you get hedging.

So now there’s a major war raging on their own continent, and those countries are being asked to stretch even thinner for an operation they had no role in shaping, led by a president who has made clear he views alliances as transactional at best and disposable at worst. Of course they’re cautious. Of course they’re calculating risk. And yes—of course they’re worried they’ll be left holding the bag when Trump inevitably changes course or loses interest.

That’s not freeloading. That’s rational behavior in response to uncertainty we created.

You’re right that some European countries have underinvested in defense. That’s been true for years, and many have started correcting it—especially since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. But let’s not pretend this moment exists in a vacuum. Trust is cumulative. And it’s been burned down repeatedly.

And the idea that this is about “refusing to help the U.S. rid the world of Iran” ignores the bigger strategic picture. European nations are dealing with an active land war, energy insecurity, domestic political strain, and the very real possibility that U.S. commitments to NATO could evaporate overnight. You don’t expand commitments under those conditions—you consolidate.

You know this, Ari. And I think you know why this argument doesn’t hold up.

But somewhere along the way, you traded that understanding for applause lines. You’ve sold yourself at the altar of popularity instead of leveling with people about the complexity here.

Alliances aren’t maintained by ultimatums and public humiliation. They’re maintained by trust, consultation, and consistency. We’ve offered too little of that lately—and now we’re seeing the result.
 
  • Like
Reactions: hopefultiger13

Dungeon09

Heisman
Dec 1, 2021
6,925
24,710
113
First of all- the post was directed at dpinc , not some pvssy lib that randomly jumps into threads. I’m sorry that’s beyond your comprehension.
I guess expecting you to be able to read and comprehend your own posts is too high a bar.
Wait, wait wait…
I didn’t see one post from any lib OTB regarding the successful rescue of 2 US soldiers that were shot down by a regime that wants everyone of us dead(even gay no king protesters like you aren’t exempt)
 

JohnHughsPartner

All-American
Nov 19, 2016
4,124
6,385
113
I guess expecting you to be able to read and comprehend your own posts is too high a bar.
I guess expecting you to comprehend that it was in reply to a certain poster is a bar too high. Are you a gay, no king protester? If you are, then I stand corrected
 

Dungeon09

Heisman
Dec 1, 2021
6,925
24,710
113
I guess expecting you to comprehend that it was in reply to a certain poster is a bar too high. Are you a gay, no king protester? If you are, then I stand corrected
You call anyone who disagrees with you gay because you have the intellectual constitution of a 6th grader who routinely shıts their pants on the playground. You only have one joke.
 
  • Like
Reactions: dpic73

JohnHughsPartner

All-American
Nov 19, 2016
4,124
6,385
113
You call anyone who disagrees with you gay because you have the intellectual constitution of a 6th grader who routinely shıts their pants on the playground. You only have one joke.
Good lord, queen… you can’t just stop sh!tting all over yourself, can you? Anwer the question, retard or STFU
 
  • Like
Reactions: fatpiggy

Chumpsky

All-American
Oct 19, 2025
3,549
5,356
113
I'm starting to wonder whether Trump is trying to provoke a terrorist attack in the U.S., by either Iran or a proxy group.

Saying into a microphone that he might end their whole country in one night implies a nuclear threat.
 

ANEW

All-Conference
Jul 7, 2023
2,179
3,084
113
I'm starting to wonder whether Trump is trying to provoke a terrorist attack in the U.S., by either Iran or a proxy group.

Saying into a microphone that he might end their whole country in one night implies a nuclear threat.
Nuclear threat?? We are bombing anything we want in Iran at will.
 

TigerGrowls

Heisman
Dec 21, 2001
44,059
32,987
113


A middle-aged @usairforce colonel went through a shoot down and a parachute drop, was severely injured, treated his own wounds, ran five miles in enemy territory, climbed a 7,000-foot mountain, radioed the proclamation, "God is good," and then holed up in a crevice in near-freezing temperatures for two days while his brothers and sisters came to rescue him. That's America; that's the American military; that's the United States Air Force.
 

TigerGrowls

Heisman
Dec 21, 2001
44,059
32,987
113


Democrats are telling U.S. troops to REFUSE ORDERS because destroying power plants is a war crime. Let's go back in time.

- Serbia's power grid: Destroyed by Bill Clinton
- North Vietnam's power grid: Destroyed by Lyndon B. Johnson
- Iraq's power grid: Bush Sr.

Nobody wants war, but it's time to finish the job and move on.
 

ANEW

All-Conference
Jul 7, 2023
2,179
3,084
113
We absolutely devastated Normandy before during and after the D-Day landings. Killed a lot of French civilians in the process.

We were welcomed as the liberators that we were.

Nazi occupation was just that bad.

life under a fanatical oppressive theocracy must be similar.
 

Chumpsky

All-American
Oct 19, 2025
3,549
5,356
113
"A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don’t want that ‌to ⁠happen, but it probably will."

If you're still supporting this guy, you are the worst kind of subhuman trash
 

Hotshoe

All-American
Feb 15, 2012
25,028
5,066
113


Democrats are telling U.S. troops to REFUSE ORDERS because destroying power plants is a war crime. Let's go back in time.

- Serbia's power grid: Destroyed by Bill Clinton
- North Vietnam's power grid: Destroyed by Lyndon B. Johnson
- Iraq's power grid: Bush Sr.

Nobody wants war, but it's time to finish the job and move on.

Yeah, don't forget what the lovely Dem Johnson did to Vietnam. He literally used Agent Orange to try and kill all food vegetation in Vietnam. That is real genocidal tactics. Furthermore, the amount of birth defects from that sh$t in Vietnam is astonishing. Meanwhile, not a single court case against DOW Chemical or Monsanto by the Vietnamese has ever been allowed to proceed.
 

Hotshoe

All-American
Feb 15, 2012
25,028
5,066
113
Since we know you'd still support him if he did, who is the actual fool?
You are, because you believe actual nutjobs and propagandists. You verify nothing, and believe all your side posts. You still believe Russian collusion, and never didn't believe or question Fauci. You believe anything your media pumps out against Trump. From the church in DC, nothing to do with Trump, to Charlottesville, you believe every lie the media injects in you.

You exhibit zero critical thinking skills.