Easy Shutdown of Power Plants

PalmettoTiger1

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Simple way to limit power to cities

Bomb the substations and transmission lines outside plants

Will take months to rebuild

Not Years if the plants are taken out

Bomb one side of bridges

Again months not years to replace

Just a thought

To be sure the military has this figured out
 

dpic73

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Simple way to limit power to cities

Bomb the substations and transmission lines outside plants

Will take months to rebuild

Not Years if the plants are taken out

Bomb one side of bridges

Again months not years to replace

Just a thought

To be sure the military has this figured out
SMFH. How about hell no Peepaw? People live there, remember??? People that Trump promised he would help....

 

PalmettoTiger1

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I would think you would agree with a humane manner of forcing the radical regime to stop being a terrorist state threatening to nuke millions of people particularly Jewish folk in Israel and millions more at risk with the buildout of 11 nukes
 
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hopefultiger13

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SMFH. How about hell no Peepaw? People live there, remember??? People that Trump promised he would help....


Dude, these are BROWN people, they hardly count. It's OK to do this to them.

That aside though, that's the way we do things when we bomb countries. I bet a lot of folks in Iran hate the current Iran government and were hoping that the US would help them take over the government. The problem with that is that you can't do that w/o either bombing them back to the stone age or an invastion in force. Both of those things come with an enormous cost. Not to the US (well, us too), but to the Iranian people. There's going to be 10s of thousands of Iranian casualties. And most of those folks, that are killed have people that cared about them. And those folks aren't going to like America AT ALL. Take that girl's school bombing that killed almost 200 kids. I have no doubt it was an accident on our part, but those kids are just as dead as if it were on purpose. And now there are 200 kid's relatives that hate the US and will hate them forever. You get the picture, if we take the country over THEN we have a country with a ton of folks that hate America.

How's that going to go for us? Well, we can look at history. We took over the Iranian govenment in the mid 1950s and installed the Shah and his people. That lasted about 20 years and when the Iranian people revolted against the American backed government, we got the current country of Iran that hates us. We took over Afgahanistan and installed an American backed government. That lasted about 20 years and when the Talaban took the place over we have the current country of Afgahanistan that hates us. We took over Iraq and installed a US backed government. 20 years later that government has never been able to control the country. Iran backed militias, Kurdish nationalist, and ISIS are all causing problems and the government is currently very unstable. IF any of the above groups take over, we'll have an Iraq that hates us.

Starting to see a picture here? We don't belong there. We need to stop doing the same f'ing thing over and over again and somehow expecting things to go differenctly.
 

Moogy

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Simple way to limit power to cities

Bomb the substations and transmission lines outside plants

Will take months to rebuild

Not Years if the plants are taken out

Bomb one side of bridges

Again months not years to replace

Just a thought

To be sure the military has this figured out

Translation: PalmettoTiger1 is pro war crime. I'm sure your god will be pleased that you are terrorizing a foreign population via war crimes. You seem like a good person, and not an awful criminal.
 

PalmettoTiger1

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Dude, these are BROWN people, they hardly count. It's OK to do this to them.

That aside though, that's the way we do things when we bomb countries. I bet a lot of folks in Iran hate the current Iran government and were hoping that the US would help them take over the government. The problem with that is that you can't do that w/o either bombing them back to the stone age or an invastion in force. Both of those things come with an enormous cost. Not to the US (well, us too), but to the Iranian people. There's going to be 10s of thousands of Iranian casualties. And most of those folks, that are killed have people that cared about them. And those folks aren't going to like America AT ALL. Take that girl's school bombing that killed almost 200 kids. I have no doubt it was an accident on our part, but those kids are just as dead as if it were on purpose. And now there are 200 kid's relatives that hate the US and will hate them forever. You get the picture, if we take the country over THEN we have a country with a ton of folks that hate America.

How's that going to go for us? Well, we can look at history. We took over the Iranian govenment in the mid 1950s and installed the Shah and his people. That lasted about 20 years and when the Iranian people revolted against the American backed government, we got the current country of Iran that hates us. We took over Afgahanistan and installed an American backed government. That lasted about 20 years and when the Talaban took the place over we have the current country of Afgahanistan that hates us. We took over Iraq and installed a US backed government. 20 years later that government has never been able to control the country. Iran backed militias, Kurdish nationalist, and ISIS are all causing problems and the government is currently very unstable. IF any of the above groups take over, we'll have an Iraq that hates us.

Starting to see a picture here? We don't belong there. We need to stop doing the same f'ing thing over and over again and somehow expecting things to go differenctly.

Let me say 200 children killed at a school accidentally and NOT TARGETED BY THE US

45,000 IRANIANS MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN MURDERED BY THE REGIME

I WOULD SAY THEY ARE 44,800 PEOPLE AHEAD ON THE REGIME KILLINGS
 

dpic73

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Let me say 200 children killed at a school accidentally and NOT TARGETED BY THE US

45,000 IRANIANS MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN MURDERED BY THE REGIME

I WOULD SAY THEY ARE 44,800 PEOPLE AHEAD ON THE REGIME KILLINGS
Cool cool, hopefully that means we can kill 44,799 civilians before they can be considered war crimes. 🤦‍♂️
 

dpic73

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BREAKING: Iran is organizing nationwide human chains of youth, athletes, and artists at every power plant in the country at 2 PM Tehran time tomorrow, per Iran's Ministry of Sports and Youth.

The campaign is named "Human Chain of Iranian Youth for a Bright Future." Its slogan: "attacking public infrastructure is a war crime."

International signage will be displayed for global media coverage. At least 2,000 NGO members are confirmed. The chains form 13 hours before Trump's 8 PM ET strike deadline.

Iran is gathering civilians at the exact infrastructure the US has threatened, and televising it to the world.
 
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LafayetteBear

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Let me say 200 children killed at a school accidentally and NOT TARGETED BY THE US

45,000 IRANIANS MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN MURDERED BY THE REGIME

I WOULD SAY THEY ARE 44,800 PEOPLE AHEAD ON THE REGIME KILLINGS
Palmetto:: I think the overall death toll in Iran is something more like 5,000.

And although I think it's clear that bombing civilian infrastructure constitutes a war crime, let's forget for a moment about the whole war crime issue and focus on the practical realities here. The Iranian population is supposed to be our friends. We started this whole "excursion" with Trump himself exhorting the Iranian population to rise up and get rid of the real enemy, the mullahs. We took out Iran's remaining nuclear facilities with this round of bombing, eliminated much of their air force and navy, exhausted much of their supply of missiles, and decimated most of their theocratic and military leadership. At this point, if we continue to bomb Iran, and most especially its civilian infrastructure, all we will be doing is alienating what little constituency we have there.

The wisest course of action would be to privately acknowledge we cannot effect regime change via a bombing campaign, and get the hell out of there before introducing soldiers and turning this into a much bigger fiasco than it is so far. Israel can and should handle it from here. And actually, Israel should be encouraged (strongly) to cease the bombing as well.

It is in Iran's interest, as well as ours and everyone else's. to reopen the Strait of Hormuz and have crude oil, fertilizer and other trade flowing through there unabated. It's a shame that Trump doesn't understand something this simple, and that he is unwilling to listen to people who do.
 
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Moogy

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Palmetto:: I think the overall death toll in Iran is something more like 5,000.

And although I think it's clear that bombing civilian infrastructure constitutes a war crime, let's forget for a moment about the whole war crime issue and focus on the practical realities here. The Iranian population is supposed to be our friends. We started this whole "excursion" with Trump himself exhorting the Iranian population to rise up and get rid of the real enemy, the mullahs. We took out Iran's remaining nuclear facilities with this round of bombing, eliminated much of their air force and navy, exhausted much of their supply of missiles, and decimated most of their theocratic and military leadership. At this point, if we continue to bomb Iran, and most especially its civilian infrastructure, all we will be doing is alienating what little constituency we have there.

The wisest course of action would be to privately acknowledge we cannot effect regime change via a bombing campaign, and get the hell out of there before introducing soldiers and turning this into a much bigger fiasco than it is so far. Israel can and should handle it from here. And actually, Israel should be encouraged (strongly) to cease the bombing as well.

It is in Iran's interest, as well as ours and everyone else's. to reopen the Strait of Hormuz and have crude oil, fertilizer and other trade flowing through there unabated. It's a shame that Trump doesn't understand something this simple, and that he is unwilling to listed to people who do.

It's just who Trump is, and always has been - a mob boss wannabe. He has no friends. He only has people he wants to benefit from (i.e. use) and/or manipulate. He has shown this over and over again, in various forms. People in his administration ... he'll tout them as the best and brightest, and moments later, he'll say they're stupid and awful when he gets rid of them, or if they leave. Various parts of his own government. States. Companies. Allies ... we've seen this ... he's treated them worse than most people treat their enemies, trying to manipulate them into doing what he wants. He's done this in various ways, as we've seen. Militarily. Economically. He's now pretty much made legitimate enemies of them, it's going so poorly.

So, why would it surprise anyone that we went from a situation where the Iranian people, once considered an ally in waiting, who we just needed to free from their oppressive regime ... are now being threatened with war crimes resulting in their deaths, or otherwise extremely adversely affected by targeted attacks ... turning them into enemies ... when the whole point of this, originally, was to get Iran moving toward being, if not a "friend," then, at least, not an enemy.

It's at the core of who he is. It permeates everything he does. He's an awful, awful human. He doesn't represent America in any way, shape or form. He's like a bad seed spoiled child ... a Veruca Salt on steroids. And tens of millions of misguided fools decided they wanted him to represent us.
 
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baltimorened

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BREAKING: Iran is organizing nationwide human chains of youth, athletes, and artists at every power plant in the country at 2 PM Tehran time tomorrow, per Iran's Ministry of Sports and Youth.

The campaign is named "Human Chain of Iranian Youth for a Bright Future." Its slogan: "attacking public infrastructure is a war crime."

International signage will be displayed for global media coverage. At least 2,000 NGO members are confirmed. The chains form 13 hours before Trump's 8 PM ET strike deadline.

Iran is gathering civilians at the exact infrastructure the US has threatened, and televising it to the world.

attacking dual use facilities is not. Don't the Iranian military get power from those plants? don't the Iranian military use bridges to move troops equipment and supplies? Didn't we bomb all these things in WWII and Vietnam?
 
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fatpiggy

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Happy Electric Station and Bridge day everyone. I hope the Iranians make the right choice. That was nice of Trump to give them the chance.

All parents know one of the most effective lines for your kids. It tells them you mean business and it’s going to happen whether they like it or not. “We can do this the easy way, or the the hard way. The choice is yours.” Sometimes the kids choose the hard way for whatever reason. Life is going to be tough if they choose the hard way.
 
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kidmike41

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I would think you would agree with a humane manner of forcing the radical regime to stop being a terrorist state threatening to nuke millions of people particularly Jewish folk in Israel and millions more at risk with the buildout of 11 nukes
I wasn’t aware that they were threatening to nuke anyone or had nuclear bombs.
 

fatpiggy

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Can you provide some examples of this because I can’t actually find any.
Here is an AI summary of all the threats Iran has made against the US and Israel. Happy I can be of service to you.


The Iranian regime has long maintained a posture of existential hostility toward both Israel (which it refers to as the “Zionist entity” or “Little Satan”) and the United States (“Great Satan”), rooted in its founding ideology since the 1979 Islamic Revolution. This includes repeated chants of “Death to America” and “Death to Israel” in official settings, support for proxy militias (Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis, Iraqi militias), and vows to eliminate Israel while expelling U.S. influence from the Middle East.34
Longstanding Rhetorical and Ideological Threats
• Iranian leaders, including Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei (killed in early 2026 U.S.-Israeli strikes) and his successors, have routinely threatened a “crushing response” or “crushing retaliation” against any attacks on Iran or its “resistance axis” allies.48
• This rhetoric frames Israel as an illegitimate occupier to be “wiped off the map” (echoing earlier statements) and the U.S. as an imperialist enemy whose regional bases, forces, and interests are legitimate targets.36
• Iran has historically backed asymmetric attacks, including via proxies, against U.S. and Israeli targets (e.g., past incidents like the 1983 Beirut barracks bombing or attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq).
Recent Threats in the Context of the 2026 War
As of April 2026, Iran and the U.S./Israel are engaged in an active, escalating direct conflict that began with major U.S.-Israeli strikes on February 28, 2026 (Operation Epic Fury), targeting Iranian nuclear sites, missile capabilities, military infrastructure, and leadership (including the killing of Khamenei). Iran has responded with waves of ballistic missiles and drones.3
Key recent Iranian threats include:
• Vows of broader and more intense retaliation: Iranian officials, including spokespersons from the Khatam al-Anbiya Central Headquarters, have warned of striking all U.S. and Israeli assets across the region—including fuel, energy, economic centers, power plants, and military bases—if attacks on Iranian infrastructure continue. They promise “greater intensity and force” in future phases.29
• Escalation if civilian targets are hit: Iran has stated that repeated strikes on civilian or economic sites (e.g., power plants, bridges, universities) will trigger “much more forceful” offensive operations against Israel, U.S. bases, and Gulf states hosting U.S. forces.12
• Threats extending to U.S. homeland: Some Iranian media and statements have warned that the war’s consequences “could reach American territory” or “hit U.S. soil” in response to threats against Iranian energy infrastructure or the Strait of Hormuz.47
• Mobilization and sacrifice rhetoric: President Masoud Pezeshkian and others have claimed millions of Iranians are “ready to die” defending the nation, framing the conflict as a defense against U.S./Israeli aggression while rejecting ceasefires without guarantees.1
• Proxy and regional expansion: Iran has activated or coordinated with allies (Houthis, Hezbollah remnants) for attacks on Israel and U.S. interests, while threatening to disrupt global oil flows (e.g., via the Strait of Hormuz) or expand strikes to Gulf energy sites.20
In practice, Iran has already launched dozens of missile waves (e.g., reported as high as “wave #98”) targeting Israeli cities (Tel Aviv, Haifa, etc.) and U.S. facilities, causing casualties and damage, while closing or threatening key maritime chokepoints.11
These threats are both rhetorical (to rally domestic support and deter further strikes) and operational (manifested in missile barrages and proxy actions). However, Iran’s conventional military has been degraded by ongoing U.S.-Israeli strikes, shifting reliance toward asymmetric tools, missiles, and survivalist defiance amid leadership disruptions (e.g., new Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei facing reported challenges). The regime portrays itself as resisting aggression while warning of high costs to its adversaries, including potential wider regional or even global economic fallout.14
The situation remains highly fluid, with mutual escalation risks centered on nuclear sites, energy infrastructure, and leadership targets.
 

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Here is an AI summary of all the threats Iran has made against the US and Israel. Happy I can be of service to you.


The Iranian regime has long maintained a posture of existential hostility toward both Israel (which it refers to as the “Zionist entity” or “Little Satan”) and the United States (“Great Satan”), rooted in its founding ideology since the 1979 Islamic Revolution. This includes repeated chants of “Death to America” and “Death to Israel” in official settings, support for proxy militias (Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis, Iraqi militias), and vows to eliminate Israel while expelling U.S. influence from the Middle East.34
Longstanding Rhetorical and Ideological Threats
• Iranian leaders, including Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei (killed in early 2026 U.S.-Israeli strikes) and his successors, have routinely threatened a “crushing response” or “crushing retaliation” against any attacks on Iran or its “resistance axis” allies.48
• This rhetoric frames Israel as an illegitimate occupier to be “wiped off the map” (echoing earlier statements) and the U.S. as an imperialist enemy whose regional bases, forces, and interests are legitimate targets.36
• Iran has historically backed asymmetric attacks, including via proxies, against U.S. and Israeli targets (e.g., past incidents like the 1983 Beirut barracks bombing or attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq).
Recent Threats in the Context of the 2026 War
As of April 2026, Iran and the U.S./Israel are engaged in an active, escalating direct conflict that began with major U.S.-Israeli strikes on February 28, 2026 (Operation Epic Fury), targeting Iranian nuclear sites, missile capabilities, military infrastructure, and leadership (including the killing of Khamenei). Iran has responded with waves of ballistic missiles and drones.3
Key recent Iranian threats include:
• Vows of broader and more intense retaliation: Iranian officials, including spokespersons from the Khatam al-Anbiya Central Headquarters, have warned of striking all U.S. and Israeli assets across the region—including fuel, energy, economic centers, power plants, and military bases—if attacks on Iranian infrastructure continue. They promise “greater intensity and force” in future phases.29
• Escalation if civilian targets are hit: Iran has stated that repeated strikes on civilian or economic sites (e.g., power plants, bridges, universities) will trigger “much more forceful” offensive operations against Israel, U.S. bases, and Gulf states hosting U.S. forces.12
• Threats extending to U.S. homeland: Some Iranian media and statements have warned that the war’s consequences “could reach American territory” or “hit U.S. soil” in response to threats against Iranian energy infrastructure or the Strait of Hormuz.47
• Mobilization and sacrifice rhetoric: President Masoud Pezeshkian and others have claimed millions of Iranians are “ready to die” defending the nation, framing the conflict as a defense against U.S./Israeli aggression while rejecting ceasefires without guarantees.1
• Proxy and regional expansion: Iran has activated or coordinated with allies (Houthis, Hezbollah remnants) for attacks on Israel and U.S. interests, while threatening to disrupt global oil flows (e.g., via the Strait of Hormuz) or expand strikes to Gulf energy sites.20
In practice, Iran has already launched dozens of missile waves (e.g., reported as high as “wave #98”) targeting Israeli cities (Tel Aviv, Haifa, etc.) and U.S. facilities, causing casualties and damage, while closing or threatening key maritime chokepoints.11
These threats are both rhetorical (to rally domestic support and deter further strikes) and operational (manifested in missile barrages and proxy actions). However, Iran’s conventional military has been degraded by ongoing U.S.-Israeli strikes, shifting reliance toward asymmetric tools, missiles, and survivalist defiance amid leadership disruptions (e.g., new Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei facing reported challenges). The regime portrays itself as resisting aggression while warning of high costs to its adversaries, including potential wider regional or even global economic fallout.14
The situation remains highly fluid, with mutual escalation risks centered on nuclear sites, energy infrastructure, and leadership targets.
So if attacked they threatened retaliation?

This is a weekly press conference for Trump and Putin.
 

fatpiggy

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If they choose Electric Station and Bridge day Kiara Island will be ours next. They have a choice.


The regime needs to collapse. I hope they don’t make a deal.

 

kidmike41

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If they choose Electric Station and Bridge day Kiara Island will be ours next. They have a choice.


The regime needs to collapse. I hope they don’t make a deal.


I’m seriously not trolling. Kharg island is just an export hub it doesn’t actually have any oil. They pump the oil over there. If we wanted to stop them exporting oil couldn’t we just strike ships or threaten too if they go to Kharg island? Seems like a lot lower risk.
 
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fatpiggy

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I’m seriously not trolling. Kharg island is just an export hub it doesn’t actually have any oil. They pump the oil over there. If we wanted to stop them exporting oil couldn’t we just strike ships or threaten too if they go to Kharg island? Seems like a lot lower risk.
Or we could control the flow of oil. We can destroy it or employ it. What’s your choice?
 
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fatpiggy

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We could charge a toll right now just like they are doing. Wouldn’t that be employing it? Pay us to leave the SOH or we blow you up. We can control the flow already.
Can we control the flow already? Why does Trump keep saying open the ******* strait?
 

kidmike41

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Can we control the flow already? Why does Trump keep saying open the ******* strait?
You are changing the subject. We can stop flow out of the strait in the same manner that Iran is. If they stop threatening and actually shooting at ships the straight is open. Taking Kharg island doesn’t change anything is my point.
 

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it's been reported by the media and posted numerous times on here...during the first meeting between the Iranians and our people the Iranians said that they had sufficient enriched uranium to make 11 bombs (separate report said 10 bombs)
They were also doing work at the sites we hit before as well as others. You don’t need to work on hardened facilities if you are no longer pursuing a bomb.
 

kidmike41

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it's been reported by the media and posted numerous times on here...during the first meeting between the Iranians and our people the Iranians said that they had sufficient enriched uranium to make 11 bombs (separate report said 10 bombs)
So saying we have uranium that is not enriched to nuclear bomb capacity is now a threat? It is also reported that they said they would give it to a third party in that meeting.

Where did they threaten to attack the USA with nukes?
 
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fatpiggy

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You are changing the subject. We can stop flow out of the strait in the same manner that Iran is. If they stop threatening and actually shooting at ships the straight is open. Taking Kharg island doesn’t change anything is my point.
It changes where the money goes and it is a massive flag in the ground. It’s more than just the oil.
 
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fatpiggy

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So saying we have uranium that is not enriched to nuclear bomb capacity is now a threat? It is also reported that they said they would give it to a third party in that meeting.

Where did they threaten to attack the USA with nukes?
🤡
 

fatpiggy

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So saying we have uranium that is not enriched to nuclear bomb capacity is now a threat? It is also reported that they said they would give it to a third party in that meeting.

Where did they threaten to attack the USA with nukes?

The Iranian regime has long maintained a posture of existential hostility toward both Israel (which it refers to as the “Zionist entity” or “Little Satan”) and the United States (“Great Satan”), rooted in its founding ideology since the 1979 Islamic Revolution. This includes repeated chants of “Death to America” and “Death to Israel” in official settings, support for proxy militias (Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis, Iraqi militias), and vows to eliminate Israel while expelling U.S. influence from the Middle East.34
Longstanding Rhetorical and Ideological Threats
• Iranian leaders, including Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei (killed in early 2026 U.S.-Israeli strikes) and his successors, have routinely threatened a “crushing response” or “crushing retaliation” against any attacks on Iran or its “resistance axis” allies.48
• This rhetoric frames Israel as an illegitimate occupier to be “wiped off the map” (echoing earlier statements) and the U.S. as an imperialist enemy whose regional bases, forces, and interests are legitimate targets.36
• Iran has historically backed asymmetric attacks, including via proxies, against U.S. and Israeli targets (e.g., past incidents like the 1983 Beirut barracks bombing or attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq).
Recent Threats in the Context of the 2026 War
As of April 2026, Iran and the U.S./Israel are engaged in an active, escalating direct conflict that began with major U.S.-Israeli strikes on February 28, 2026 (Operation Epic Fury), targeting Iranian nuclear sites, missile capabilities, military infrastructure, and leadership (including the killing of Khamenei). Iran has responded with waves of ballistic missiles and drones.3
Key recent Iranian threats include:
• Vows of broader and more intense retaliation: Iranian officials, including spokespersons from the Khatam al-Anbiya Central Headquarters, have warned of striking all U.S. and Israeli assets across the region—including fuel, energy, economic centers, power plants, and military bases—if attacks on Iranian infrastructure continue. They promise “greater intensity and force” in future phases.29
• Escalation if civilian targets are hit: Iran has stated that repeated strikes on civilian or economic sites (e.g., power plants, bridges, universities) will trigger “much more forceful” offensive operations against Israel, U.S. bases, and Gulf states hosting U.S. forces.12
• Threats extending to U.S. homeland: Some Iranian media and statements have warned that the war’s consequences “could reach American territory” or “hit U.S. soil” in response to threats against Iranian energy infrastructure or the Strait of Hormuz.47
• Mobilization and sacrifice rhetoric: President Masoud Pezeshkian and others have claimed millions of Iranians are “ready to die” defending the nation, framing the conflict as a defense against U.S./Israeli aggression while rejecting ceasefires without guarantees.1
• Proxy and regional expansion: Iran has activated or coordinated with allies (Houthis, Hezbollah remnants) for attacks on Israel and U.S. interests, while threatening to disrupt global oil flows (e.g., via the Strait of Hormuz) or expand strikes to Gulf energy sites.20
In practice, Iran has already launched dozens of missile waves (e.g., reported as high as “wave #98”) targeting Israeli cities (Tel Aviv, Haifa, etc.) and U.S. facilities, causing casualties and damage, while closing or threatening key maritime chokepoints.11
These threats are both rhetorical (to rally domestic support and deter further strikes) and operational (manifested in missile barrages and proxy actions). However, Iran’s conventional military has been degraded by ongoing U.S.-Israeli strikes, shifting reliance toward asymmetric tools, missiles, and survivalist defiance amid leadership disruptions (e.g., new Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei facing reported challenges). The regime portrays itself as resisting aggression while warning of high costs to its adversaries, including potential wider regional or even global economic fallout.14
The situation remains highly fluid, with mutual escalation risks centered on nuclear sites, energy infrastructure, and leadership targets.
 

kidmike41

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It changes where the money goes and it is a massive flag in the ground. It’s more than just the oil.
But we want Iran to trade its oil. We unsanctioned them. How does this change where the money goes?