Iran Shoots Down Our F-15E
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How is anyone overstating what is happening? They have destroyed Iranian air defenses. To the point we are flying f15s, b2 bombers and a10s. Are they might hàve some shoulder fired sams or pop out some sams for pop shots but there is no coordinated air defense. We literally flew in chopers and C130s for the rescue with nothing but ground air fire in return.
You are over reacting.
We owned air superiority in Afghanistan for 20 years and still lost choppers and planes to shoulder fired sams.
Well they effectively have no air defenses. This rescue mission was proof of that! Tehran is a sitting duck right now. If Trump carries through on his threat to "unleash Hell" on them, they can't do a thing to stop it. We have total control over their airspace...can go anywhere, anytime.
I'm predicting the Mullahs (or whoever is in charge over there in Iran) will surrender before Trump "unleashes Hell" on them. He will send messages through back channels what's about to hit them, and detail exactly how bad it's going to be for them. They'll believe him!
They will choose survival to live and fight "the Great Satan" another day, perhaps under a different President....rather than face certain, swift and complete annihilation.
They will choose survival to live and fight "the Great Satan" another day, perhaps under a different President....rather than face certain, swift and complete annihilation.
They can take the Hitler way out and kill themselves if they want instead of publicly surrendering. I'm ok with that if they choose that route.
Wow you idiots just figured out Isarel and New Saudi Leadership along with other Muslim Countries in the Middle East are working towards having a more prosperous Middle East and Iran and their Proxies use terrorism to counter that.
How old was Kushner when Iran proxies started killing Americans? Not even born yet. Crying about the IRGC getting destroyed and the Iranian people possible having the opportunity to be be involved in a more prosperous future sounds like Radical Jihadist Propaganda. The CCP and Russia approves of your stupidity.
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When was it Iranian proxies started killing Americans and what happened in the relationship between Iran and the US?
Grok says 1983. Gonna just skip over the CIA coup and puppet dictator we installed to run their country? You do understand this is the start right?
The 1979 so called revolution was back by the Soviet Union and other Islamic Marxist groups. They installed radicals that the CCP has been propping up the past few decades for mutual benefits.
Carter should have put a stop to it then and every President since has kicked the can down the road or assisted these nutjobs. Personally I don't give a **** what kind of Government they end up with as long as the Death to America Death Cult that's a puppet to the CCP is wiped out. If the their people who have grown tired of the genocide do it after we destroy their military I'm ok with that too.
If we were talking about some piss ant country in Africa I could understand people being indifferent to not wanting to get involved. But we aren't. It's a real threat to the world. Just like the Nazis were in WW2 and the Soviet Union became after WW2.
The CIA, in a 1953 joint operation with Britain (Operation Ajax), overthrew Iranian Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh primarily to secure Western control over Iranian oil, which Mossadegh had nationalized. The U.S. feared that the resulting economic instability would allow the communist Tudeh Party to seize power during the Cold War.
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Dwight D. Eisenhower was the President of the United States in 1953, taking office on January 20, 1953. A Republican, he succeeded Harry S. Truman to become the 34th president, initiating his first term focused on ending the Korean War and managing Cold War tensions.
The Tudeh Party of Iran[a] is an Iranian Marxist-Leninist communist party. Formed in 1941 with Soleiman Mirza Eskandari as its leader, the organization held significant influence in its early years and played an important role during Mohammad Mosaddegh's campaign to nationalize the Anglo-Persian Oil Company, as well as throughout his term as prime minister.[7] From the Iran crisis of 1946 onwards, Tudeh became a pro-Soviet organization and remained prepared to carry out the dictates of the Soviet leadership in Moscow, even if it meant sacrificing Iranian political independence and sovereignty.[8][9] The crackdown that followed the 1953 coup against Mosaddegh is said to have "destroyed" the party,[10][11] although a small part of it survived.
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Time to make this great again.
Every action undertaken by Iran since that time has been a willing and active choice by them. You frame it as though all resulting actions by the Iranians were predestined upon that event. It’s the problem I have with this line of thinking from the Libertarian side, the Dave Smith’s of the world, whom I enjoy listening to for perspective.
However, where the whole argument effectively ends always, ok, so you gave historical context, now what? What is your proposed solution? The myopic they’ll just leave us alone is so Neville Chamberlain it’s preposterous to get on board. You all believe in this myopic view that ascribes your values to the behaviors of people that don’t share your views and values. It completely discounts the actions, behaviors, culture, and motivations of others. The reality is, we’re so misaligned culturally, there is but one solution at the end of the day and that’s to smack them in the mouth.
50 years from now, the next round of idealistic libertarians will be parroting the same crap you are and pointing to the Midnight Hammer raid of 25 and Epic Fury of 26 as motivation. We have goals as a nation and sadly, in order for our goals and global hegemony as a nation, we have to impart our will on some other nations. It’s just a reality. No one is going to stay in their little sand box and be content to just play.
1953 was about the Soviet Unions proxies not getting to control the oil. That still upsets the Communist today. The rest of what you described is suicidal empathy. One doesn't have to be a Lindsey Graham type to think that logic is nuts. Being somewhere in the middle in dealing with Conflict is a much healthier place to be. If we leave the area in a few weeks the only real ability they will have is to fight a Civil War to figure out what direction they will go next. As they won't be able to flex too much outside of their borders. They and others were working towards throwing us into civil conflict so I have no sympathy if that's what is left of the IRGC and Mollahs get. I will root for them to eventually get executed.
One way or another the Strait will open. So everyone can stop panicking about that. Exposing NATO for being worthless should wake everyone up. If future conflict with Russia and the CCP happen will be on our own for the most part.
Dear Democrats nobody gives a **** about the Hague Convention as the CCP now participates in it and the other Countries involved have basically surrendered. If you are delusional enough to think we are going to allow them to touch any of our Former Presidents that sounds like a good way to get hung by the American People.
You’re right, every Iranian action has been their choice, and history isn’t an excuse. But understanding blowback isn’t myopic; it’s how we stop repeating the same expensive mistakes that create more enemies.
The libertarian solution isn’t “they’ll leave us alone” naivety. It’s the Founders’ actual plan: strong defense at home, free trade, honest diplomacy, and no regime-change wars or entangling alliances.
Our “national goals” of global hegemony don’t align with the smallest, least powerful government the Founders designed so Americans could live freely. Washington and Jefferson warned against exactly this path.
At what point do those goals stop being compatible with a free republic? They’ve already given us the Patriot Act and the NSA surveillance state. When do we stop giving up our freedoms for safety? This is completely glossing over operations where that same CIA that overthrew Iran has run programs right here in the US like MKUltra, Mockingbird, and Artichoke.
I'm pretty confident that our Founding Fathers if Alive today would be asking what took you idiots so long to destroy these Death to America cult members. I probably wouldn't be using their names as they would have invoked the Insurrection Act and hung some people already for Treason.
None of the other stuff you dream of in your Utopia happens if Iran, China, Russia, and Cartels are running the world. That's where we are and it's got to be dealt with. If not then we have Anarchy.
Well it's a good thing the Democrat ran MSM and our foreign enemies don't run any programs like this against the American People that are more updated and sophisticated. 
"This is completely glossing over operations where that same CIA that overthrew Iran has run programs right here in the US like MKUltra, Mockingbird, and Artichoke."
I'll meet you part of the way. Put John Brennan’s *** in jail already for abusing his position.
"This is completely glossing over operations where that same CIA that overthrew Iran has run programs right here in the US like MKUltra, Mockingbird, and Artichoke."
I'll meet you part of the way. Put John Brennan’s *** in jail already for abusing his position.
Yes, Fox News Chief National Security Correspondent Jennifer Griffin was the first to report that a U.S. F-15E jet was shot down over Iran, breaking the news on Friday, April 3, 2026, and providing initial updates that one crew member was missing for 15 hours. She also reported on the subsequent rescue of a pilot.
Key details reported by Jennifer Griffin:
Was it one of her sources?
Key details reported by Jennifer Griffin:
- The Incident: She reported on April 3, 2026, that an F-15E jet was shot down by Iranian forces.
- Initial Status: Griffin confirmed that one crew member was missing for approximately 15 hours following the crash.
- Rescue Updates: She reported that one crew member was rescued while the other remained missing.
- Follow-up Reports: Griffin later reported that the second crew member was rescued after hiding for 48 hours.
Was it one of her sources?
Trump threatens jail time over F-15 story leak
“We’re looking very hard to find that leaker… We think we’ll be able to find it out because we’re going to go to the media company that released it and we’re going to say, ‘National security, give it up or go to jail.’”
“We’re looking very hard to find that leaker… We think we’ll be able to find it out because we’re going to go to the media company that released it and we’re going to say, ‘National security, give it up or go to jail.’”
If the Mullahs (or whoever is in charge now in Iran) are smart, they'll surrender or at least agree to a cease fire and allow uninterrupted passage of tankers through the straight of Hormuz. If they don't agree to that, they're going to lose whatever control over the straight they claim to still have after we seize the oil on Kharg island, and they will lose their country because it will be damaged beyond repair.
I'm predicting they'll surrender, or at least settle for a cease fire while allowing the straight to open up.
(privately I hope Trump orders them to be wiped out, then we don't have to deal with them anymore)
I'm predicting they'll surrender, or at least settle for a cease fire while allowing the straight to open up.
(privately I hope Trump orders them to be wiped out, then we don't have to deal with them anymore)
Not sure i want control of khrag island. Yes the oil would be nice , but would be a never ending blood bath .If the Mullahs (or whoever is in charge now in Iran) are smart, they'll surrender or at least agree to a cease fire and allow uninterrupted passage of tankers through the straight of Hormuz. If they don't agree to that, they're going to lose whatever control over the straight they claim to still have after we seize the oil on Kharg island, and they will lose their country because it will be damaged beyond repair.
I'm predicting they'll surrender, or at least settle for a cease fire while allowing the straight to open up.
(privately I hope Trump orders them to be wiped out, then we don't have to deal with them anymore)
I wouldn't want China to control it either and now get free oil. If we did control it then anyone buying it would have to pay US dollars and money would be put away for the Iranian people. So that makes it worth the military doing what it's done. As they have won the majority of battles since WW2 only to have politicians give the wins away.
If the Mullahs (or whoever is in charge now in Iran) are smart, they'll surrender or at least agree to a cease fire and allow uninterrupted passage of tankers through the straight of Hormuz. If they don't agree to that, they're going to lose whatever control over the straight they claim to still have after we seize the oil on Kharg island, and they will lose their country because it will be damaged beyond repair.
I'm predicting they'll surrender, or at least settle for a cease fire while allowing the straight to open up.
(privately I hope Trump orders them to be wiped out, then we don't have to deal with them anymore)
I don't think they are ready to surrender yet. Going to take more pain. They are counting on the Democrats and woke idiots here to keep crying and getting a political win allowing them to survive. There's going to be serious Civil Unrest there. That might happen in within 3 weeks or a year from now but it's going to happen. Before the Democrats cry about that just understand that's what they have been doing here working with traitors, collaborators, Cartels, and the CCP.
I wouldn't want China to have it .
Like to see the normal thinking Iranians control it .
I think we'll seize the oil, and keep the straight open. We'll sell the oil on the open market, and use the proceeds to reimburse what we're spending on the war, and make offers to the new regime in Iran to rebuild.
That's who we would hold the money for. We are doing that in Venezuela too.
Different types of people, whole different mind sets . Venezuela is a way different animal than Iran. I hope it works that way but not sure it will.
If a Democrat is elected then yes they will allow the CCP to control it while shutting down our production. Then we get more green energy **** made in China that won't sustain us.
Venezuela was a proxy of Iran and China. Hence why I want Trump to finish Iran's IRGC because they are a proxy of the CCP. That hurts the CCP in building their War Machine that they are building with plans to use.