Recruiting, but it's not an overnight fix without HS kids

[NewJerseyHawk]

We have seen the results now for a few classes in a row, on what happens if you ignore HS recruiting....adding Dylan Harper and Ace Bailey to this mix, ultimately doesn't make sense as a long term solution, the problem gets fixed by getting players from freshman year to senior year.....it is the Michigan State, Purdue model and it works.....

2021....Jalen Miller

2022....Derek Simpson, Ant Woolfork (Darren Buchanan was a RU target, now here but an original 2022 HS recruiting target)....Antonio Chol.....

2023....Gavin Griffiths, JaMicheal Davis, (Baye Fall was a 2023 target, clearly not a player)....Tariq Francis is a 2023 HS recruit, landed as a transfer)....Emmanuel Ogbole was a JUCO recruit in 2023 and because he played more than 2 seasons, could be viewed like a HS recruit...

2024....Lathan Sommerville, Bryce Dortch, Dylan Grant (Ace & Dylan 1 & done)

2025....Chris Nwuli, Kaden Powers, Lino Mark, Dorian Jones, Gevonte Ware, Harun Zrno, Denis Badalau

2026....Imahri Wooten.

The only way to sustain a roster is by adding multiple HS kids each and every year.

If you are trying to fix the problem in the short and long term, there has to be layers of depth added each and every year.

Technically we have added a lot in 2025 (excluding Euro additions who are truly year to year, where USA kids are not disappearing to play in Europe or overseas to their home countries....we need to stay on that path.

2022 Derek Simpson (Top 225 range)

2022 Antwon Woolfork (Top 275-300 range)

2022 Antonio Chol (Top 300 range)

2022 Darren Buchanan 3* (Top 175 to 200)

2023 Griffiths 4* (top 50-60 range)

2023 Davis 3* (top 300 range)

2024 Sommerville 4* (top 100 to 150 range)

2024 Grant 3* (top 150 range)

2025 Dorian Jones 4* (top 100)

2025 Chris Nwuli 4* (top 100-125 range)

2025 Kaden Powers 3* (top 250 range)

2025 Lino Mark 3* (Top 200 range)

2026 Imahri Wooten 3* (Top 175 range)

Out of this total group of players in the last 4 classes, only 1 player in 4 years, has suited up for RU for at least 3 full seasons....JaMicheal Davis.

Some have played 1 year, 2 years, but it is impossible to string together consistent play, when only 1 player actually looks comfortable doing what he's doing.....that same player is JaMicheal Davis.

Look, I am not advocating for Davis to be a starter....he is a very solid player at this stage of his career and has played through a lot of different guards alongside of him.

But if you want to build a program and not a roster of inconsistent players mixed with other newcomers, we need to retain players and find more HS recruiting wins, who will go through the 4 year plan from freshman to senior year at RU.....like Geo Baker, Caleb McConnell, Myles Johnson, RHJ, Cliff Omoruyi....even Mag and Mulcahy weren't stars, but went through the cycle to become contributing players.

I would add another TWO HS kids in 2026 in the next 30 days.....and make sure we land 2 or more 2027 HS recruiting wins.....In the Top 75 to 175 range.....

Pike and Kelli Zinn specifically need to provide real assets to upgrade in the portal AND in HS recruiting.....so the program is fixed.

It's not complicated, but the portal isn't going to save or fix this....basic HS recruiting and retaining players is the only true fix.

 

[Mholinko]

We have seen the results now for a few classes in a row, on what happens if you ignore HS recruiting....adding Dylan Harper and Ace Bailey to this mix, ultimately doesn't make sense as a long term solution, the problem gets fixed by getting players from freshman year to senior year.....it is the Michigan State, Purdue model and it works.....

2021....Jalen Miller

2022....Derek Simpson, Ant Woolfork (Darren Buchanan was a RU target, now here but an original 2022 HS recruiting target)....Antonio Chol.....

2023....Gavin Griffiths, JaMicheal Davis, (Baye Fall was a 2023 target, clearly not a player)....Tariq Francis is a 2023 HS recruit, landed as a transfer)....Emmanuel Ogbole was a JUCO recruit in 2023 and because he played more than 2 seasons, could be viewed like a HS recruit...

2024....Lathan Sommerville, Bryce Dortch, Dylan Grant (Ace & Dylan 1 & done)

2025....Chris Nwuli, Kaden Powers, Lino Mark, Dorian Jones, Gevonte Ware, Harun Zrno, Denis Badalau

2026....Imahri Wooten.

The only way to sustain a roster is by adding multiple HS kids each and every year.

If you are trying to fix the problem in the short and long term, there has to be layers of depth added each and every year.

Technically we have added a lot in 2025 (excluding Euro additions who are truly year to year, where USA kids are not disappearing to play in Europe or overseas to their home countries....we need to stay on that path.

2022 Derek Simpson (Top 225 range)

2022 Antwon Woolfork (Top 275-300 range)

2022 Antonio Chol (Top 300 range)

2022 Darren Buchanan 3* (Top 175 to 200)

2023 Griffiths 4* (top 50-60 range)

2023 Davis 3* (top 300 range)

2024 Sommerville 4* (top 100 to 150 range)

2024 Grant 3* (top 150 range)

2025 Dorian Jones 4* (top 100)

2025 Chris Nwuli 4* (top 100-125 range)

2025 Kaden Powers 3* (top 250 range)

2025 Lino Mark 3* (Top 200 range)

2026 Imahri Wooten 3* (Top 175 range)

Out of this total group of players in the last 4 classes, only 1 player in 4 years, has suited up for RU for at least 3 full seasons....JaMicheal Davis.

Some have played 1 year, 2 years, but it is impossible to string together consistent play, when only 1 player actually looks comfortable doing what he's doing.....that same player is JaMicheal Davis.

Look, I am not advocating for Davis to be a starter....he is a very solid player at this stage of his career and has played through a lot of different guards alongside of him.

But if you want to build a program and not a roster of inconsistent players mixed with other newcomers, we need to retain players and find more HS recruiting wins, who will go through the 4 year plan from freshman to senior year at RU.....like Geo Baker, Caleb McConnell, Myles Johnson, RHJ, Cliff Omoruyi....even Mag and Mulcahy weren't stars, but went through the cycle to become contributing players.

I would add another TWO HS kids in 2026 in the next 30 days.....and make sure we land 2 or more 2027 HS recruiting wins.....In the Top 75 to 175 range.....

Pike and Kelli Zinn specifically need to provide real assets to upgrade in the portal AND in HS recruiting.....so the program is fixed.

It's not complicated, but the portal isn't going to save or fix this....basic HS recruiting and retaining players is the only true fix.

But we’ve done a horrible job with HS recruiting for years and thus the problem becomes compounded and when you have a coach on the hot seat the patience required to build a program that way becomes less and less

We are also in year 11 and shouldn’t be looking to build a program or rebuild a program. It was already built and then wrecked by the same coach which makes recruiting difficult when you see the results trending the wrong way

now he’s on the hot seat going into next year and probably the feeling is he cannot afford to be particularly patient with 18 year olds and hope they stay because unless there’s significant improvement he will not be back either

Yes of course the ideal way to build a roster and program is through recruiting and retention but the problem is the current coach has lost good will each season and his continued misses since 2021 make it harder and harder for him to lean on that

 

[Knight Shift]

But we’ve done a horrible job with HS recruiting for years and thus the problem becomes compounded and when you have a coach on the hot seat the patience required to build a program that way becomes less and less

We are also in year 11 and shouldn’t be looking to build a program or rebuild a program. It was already built and then wrecked by the same coach which makes recruiting difficult when you see the results trending the wrong way

now he’s on the hot seat going into next year and probably the feeling is he cannot afford to be particularly patient with 18 year olds and hope they stay because unless there’s significant improvement he will not be back either

Yes of course the ideal way to build a roster and program is through recruiting and retention but the problem is the current coach has lost good will each season and his continued misses since 2021 make it harder and harder for him to lean on that

I am not disagreeing with you, but could you explain a bit more about "wrecked by the same coach?"
How did he wreck it, with details, please.

 

[bac2therac]

Pike recruiting was poor after his ncaa seasons

Thats the bottom line

The OPs list of high school recruits is terrifying and not an impact player in the bunch

No geos or rons in that bunch

So putting faith in a poor recruiter to recruit more high school kids and keep a weak 7 man class together is stunning.

He has to win now and that means bringing in a whole new team. There is no such thing as developing 4 year players as a unit in the nil era

 

[Knight Shift]

Pike recruiting was poor after his ncaa seasons

Thats the bottom line

The OPs list of high school recruits is terrifying and not an impact player in the bunch

No geos or rons in that bunch

It's fair to judge him on his portal haul for this upcoming season. Fail, and he's gone. Succeed (mid to upper in B1G standings) and perhaps a bid to dance, and he gets one more year? Of course fans may want more, but is this reasonable? I don't have strong feelings about this.

 

[Mholinko]

I am not disagreeing with you, but could you explain a bit more about "wrecked by the same coach?"
How did he wreck it, with details, please.

Without turning it into an essay

The arch of his coaching career here was a slow build to a 3 year window of really good basketball between 2019-2022 and you could claim 4 during the Mag season but that was a missed opportunity and collapse nonetheless

the subsequent 3 seasons were abject failures sandwiched by the ultimate failure of roster construction surrounding the two best recruits in Rutgers history

his recruiting chops and knowledge of the portal have proven to be pretty mediocre at best as we seem to have worse and worse talent on the roster each of the last three seasons and very little internal development from players he brought in as 18 year olds

hawk cited the recruiting classes which have been filled with swings and misses since 2021 and that has left the cupboard undeniably bare

couple that with his stubbornness to make coaching changes or schematic changes to adapt and we are basically at the same spot we were in 2016

 

[bac2therac]

I am not disagreeing with you, but could you explain a bit more about "wrecked by the same coach?"
How did he wreck it, with details, please.

15-17
15-17
14-20

2020-2022 is ancient history

 

[dark_check]

Pike recruiting was poor after his ncaa seasons

Thats the bottom line

The OPs list of high school recruits is terrifying and not an impact player in the bunch

No geos or rons in that bunch

So putting faith in a poor recruiter to recruit more high school kids and keep a weak 7 man class together is stunning.

He has to win now and that means bringing in a whole new team. There is no such thing as developing 4 year players as a unit in the nil era

Not even a Reiber or a Palmquist

 

[Knight Shift]

Without turning it into an essay

The arch of his coaching career here was a slow build to a 3 year window of really good basketball between 2019-2022 and you could claim 4 during the Mag season but that was a missed opportunity and collapse nonetheless

the subsequent 3 seasons were abject failures sandwiched by the ultimate failure of roster construction surrounding the two best recruits in Rutgers history

his recruiting chops and knowledge of the portal have proven to be pretty mediocre at best as we seem to have worse and worse talent on the roster each of the last three seasons and very little internal development from players he brought in as 18 year olds

hawk cited the recruiting classes which have been filled with swings and misses since 2021 and that has left the cupboard undeniably bare

couple that with his stubbornness to make coaching changes or schematic changes to adapt and we are basically at the same spot we were in 2016

Is it fair to judge his portal chops and roster construction around Ace and Dylan when his boss was against the concept of NIL, and he was shopping for champagne on a tap water budget while his boss was tapping something else?
Yeah, excuses, but is this valid? How was he supposed to get quality portal players without a decent amount of NIL money?

 

[Knight Shift]

15-17
15-17
14-20

2020-2022 is ancient history

Thanks, but you missed the details.

 

[bac2therac]

Is it fair to judge his portal chops and roster construction around Ace and Dylan when his boss was against the concept of NIL, and he was shopping for champagne on a tap water budget while his boss was tapping something else?
Yeah, excuses, but is this valid? How was he supposed to get quality portal players without a decent amount of NIL money?

Yes its fair because his awful recruiting meant no bridge players beyond the nil situation

J will...lmfao everybody forgets how much hype he had..the OP gushed about him. J mike? Gimme a break

This team lost to Kennessaw State and was down 40-15. Pike couldnt teach defense for a lick. Offense wasnt the issue. Every game was groundhog day. The inmates ran the asylum

 

[Knight Shift]

Yes its fair because his awful recruiting meant no bridge players beyond the nil situation

J will...lmfao everybody forgets how much hype he had..the OP gushed about him. J mike? Gimme a break

This team lost to Kennessaw State and was down 40-15. Pike couldnt teach defense for a lick. Offense wasnt the issue. Every game was groundhog day. The inmates ran the asylum

Just a my own humble opinion, but both he and the HC of football seem to have gotten a little too comfortable under the former AD.

 

[MADHAT1]

Pike should have next year to prove he can make RU MBB a winner
NCAA or gone.
He has had enough years to prove he could do that and mainly has failed
In 10 seasons he has 4 winning seasons and only 2 Dance appearances.
Giving him the benefit of doubt for covid cancel , he might have 3 .
But now he has had 3 consecutive losing seasons and shouldn't be excused for that.
Time for Pikiell to change RU into a dance team , or Rutgers has to make a change.

 

[bac2therac]

Just a my own humble opinion, but both he and the HC of football seem to have gotten a little too comfortable under the former AD.

And this..6th highest paid assistant....thanks Pat

 

[Knight Shift]

And this..6th highest paid assistant....thanks Pat

How long is his contract?

 

[richthedentist]

Pike should have next year to prove he can make RU MBB a winner
NCAA or gone.
He has had enough years to prove he could do that and mainly has failed
In 10 seasons he has 4 winning seasons and only 2 Dance appearances.
Giving him the benefit of doubt for covid cancel , he might have 3 .
But now he has had 3 consecutive losing seasons and shouldn't be excused for that.
Time for Pikiell to change RU into a dance team , or Rutgers has to make a change.

And she will he has next season to I believe get us to the dance at a minimum or he is gone

 

[bac2therac]

How long is his contract?

Brandin Knight, Rutgers men's basketball associate head coach, signed a four-year contract extension in April 2024, running through the 2027-28 season. His salary increases annually, starting at $700,000 for 2024-25, rising to $725,000 (2025-26), $750,000 (2026-27), and $775,000 by 2027-28. The deal keeps him among the highest-paid assistants in college basketball.

 

[Simce91]

15-17
15-17
14-20

2020-2022 is ancient history

Too bad Pike can't count the 2006 Louisville win

 

[KnightTerrors]

Brandin Knight, Rutgers men's basketball associate head coach, signed a four-year contract extension in April 2024, running through the 2027-28 season. His salary increases annually, starting at $700,000 for 2024-25, rising to $725,000 (2025-26), $750,000 (2026-27), and $775,000 by 2027-28. The deal keeps him among the highest-paid assistants in college basketball.

As bad as that looks now, context is important. He had just landed the best class in school history and by all accounts Ace by himself. His name got floated around a lot for smaller head jobs. Locking him in for $700k per kept him away from taking a job at a smaller school. Hindsight 20/20 but I don’t think that was bad move at the time. Pike extension is a different story.

 

[NickRU714]

We have seen the results now for a few classes in a row, on what happens if you ignore HS recruiting....adding Dylan Harper and Ace Bailey to this mix, ultimately doesn't make sense as a long term solution, the problem gets fixed by getting players from freshman year to senior year.....it is the Michigan State, Purdue model and it works.....

2021....Jalen Miller

2022....Derek Simpson, Ant Woolfork (Darren Buchanan was a RU target, now here but an original 2022 HS recruiting target)....Antonio Chol.....

2023....Gavin Griffiths, JaMicheal Davis, (Baye Fall was a 2023 target, clearly not a player)....Tariq Francis is a 2023 HS recruit, landed as a transfer)....Emmanuel Ogbole was a JUCO recruit in 2023 and because he played more than 2 seasons, could be viewed like a HS recruit...

2024....Lathan Sommerville, Bryce Dortch, Dylan Grant (Ace & Dylan 1 & done)

2025....Chris Nwuli, Kaden Powers, Lino Mark, Dorian Jones, Gevonte Ware, Harun Zrno, Denis Badalau

2026....Imahri Wooten.

The only way to sustain a roster is by adding multiple HS kids each and every year.

If you are trying to fix the problem in the short and long term, there has to be layers of depth added each and every year.

Technically we have added a lot in 2025 (excluding Euro additions who are truly year to year, where USA kids are not disappearing to play in Europe or overseas to their home countries....we need to stay on that path.

2022 Derek Simpson (Top 225 range)

2022 Antwon Woolfork (Top 275-300 range)

2022 Antonio Chol (Top 300 range)

2022 Darren Buchanan 3* (Top 175 to 200)

2023 Griffiths 4* (top 50-60 range)

2023 Davis 3* (top 300 range)

2024 Sommerville 4* (top 100 to 150 range)

2024 Grant 3* (top 150 range)

2025 Dorian Jones 4* (top 100)

2025 Chris Nwuli 4* (top 100-125 range)

2025 Kaden Powers 3* (top 250 range)

2025 Lino Mark 3* (Top 200 range)

2026 Imahri Wooten 3* (Top 175 range)

Out of this total group of players in the last 4 classes, only 1 player in 4 years, has suited up for RU for at least 3 full seasons....JaMicheal Davis.

Some have played 1 year, 2 years, but it is impossible to string together consistent play, when only 1 player actually looks comfortable doing what he's doing.....that same player is JaMicheal Davis.

Look, I am not advocating for Davis to be a starter....he is a very solid player at this stage of his career and has played through a lot of different guards alongside of him.

But if you want to build a program and not a roster of inconsistent players mixed with other newcomers, we need to retain players and find more HS recruiting wins, who will go through the 4 year plan from freshman to senior year at RU.....like Geo Baker, Caleb McConnell, Myles Johnson, RHJ, Cliff Omoruyi....even Mag and Mulcahy weren't stars, but went through the cycle to become contributing players.

I would add another TWO HS kids in 2026 in the next 30 days.....and make sure we land 2 or more 2027 HS recruiting wins.....In the Top 75 to 175 range.....

Pike and Kelli Zinn specifically need to provide real assets to upgrade in the portal AND in HS recruiting.....so the program is fixed.

It's not complicated, but the portal isn't going to save or fix this....basic HS recruiting and retaining players is the only true fix.

This makes little to no sense, to me.

You say this is what happens if we "ignore hs recruiting".
Then list 16 HS recruits (not including Ace/Dylan or Badalu/Zrno) over 6 years.

So are we ignoring HS recruiting or not?

Focusing on HS recruiting has been the problem.
Of that 15 (not including Wooten), literally zero have turned into starter caliber players.
Every player who left early was seen as expendable.
Every player who has stayed (Obgole, Davis, Grant, Dortch) is seen as expendable for next year.

Pike has been focusing on HS recruiting.
And failing every year.

Everyone would agree - were need HS recruiting "wins". We also need transfer "wins".
Not sure the point this all is supposed to be making.

 

[RUskoolie]

Brandin Knight, Rutgers men's basketball associate head coach, signed a four-year contract extension in April 2024, running through the 2027-28 season. His salary increases annually, starting at $700,000 for 2024-25, rising to $725,000 (2025-26), $750,000 (2026-27), and $775,000 by 2027-28. The deal keeps him among the highest-paid assistants in college basketball.

This stuff will change when I am on the BOG one day. No idea why schools think it's smart to lock in long term contracts for head coaches and now assistants. Your job as AD is basically to make sure your HC gets hired away. That means you're in good position with a good team and financially not in a black hole.

 

[RUDivision]

We have seen the results now for a few classes in a row, on what happens if you ignore HS recruiting....adding Dylan Harper and Ace Bailey to this mix, ultimately doesn't make sense as a long term solution, the problem gets fixed by getting players from freshman year to senior year.....it is the Michigan State, Purdue model and it works.....

2021....Jalen Miller

2022....Derek Simpson, Ant Woolfork (Darren Buchanan was a RU target, now here but an original 2022 HS recruiting target)....Antonio Chol.....

2023....Gavin Griffiths, JaMicheal Davis, (Baye Fall was a 2023 target, clearly not a player)....Tariq Francis is a 2023 HS recruit, landed as a transfer)....Emmanuel Ogbole was a JUCO recruit in 2023 and because he played more than 2 seasons, could be viewed like a HS recruit...

2024....Lathan Sommerville, Bryce Dortch, Dylan Grant (Ace & Dylan 1 & done)

2025....Chris Nwuli, Kaden Powers, Lino Mark, Dorian Jones, Gevonte Ware, Harun Zrno, Denis Badalau

2026....Imahri Wooten.

The only way to sustain a roster is by adding multiple HS kids each and every year.

If you are trying to fix the problem in the short and long term, there has to be layers of depth added each and every year.

Technically we have added a lot in 2025 (excluding Euro additions who are truly year to year, where USA kids are not disappearing to play in Europe or overseas to their home countries....we need to stay on that path.

2022 Derek Simpson (Top 225 range)

2022 Antwon Woolfork (Top 275-300 range)

2022 Antonio Chol (Top 300 range)

2022 Darren Buchanan 3* (Top 175 to 200)

2023 Griffiths 4* (top 50-60 range)

2023 Davis 3* (top 300 range)

2024 Sommerville 4* (top 100 to 150 range)

2024 Grant 3* (top 150 range)

2025 Dorian Jones 4* (top 100)

2025 Chris Nwuli 4* (top 100-125 range)

2025 Kaden Powers 3* (top 250 range)

2025 Lino Mark 3* (Top 200 range)

2026 Imahri Wooten 3* (Top 175 range)

Out of this total group of players in the last 4 classes, only 1 player in 4 years, has suited up for RU for at least 3 full seasons....JaMicheal Davis.

Some have played 1 year, 2 years, but it is impossible to string together consistent play, when only 1 player actually looks comfortable doing what he's doing.....that same player is JaMicheal Davis.

Look, I am not advocating for Davis to be a starter....he is a very solid player at this stage of his career and has played through a lot of different guards alongside of him.

But if you want to build a program and not a roster of inconsistent players mixed with other newcomers, we need to retain players and find more HS recruiting wins, who will go through the 4 year plan from freshman to senior year at RU.....like Geo Baker, Caleb McConnell, Myles Johnson, RHJ, Cliff Omoruyi....even Mag and Mulcahy weren't stars, but went through the cycle to become contributing players.

I would add another TWO HS kids in 2026 in the next 30 days.....and make sure we land 2 or more 2027 HS recruiting wins.....In the Top 75 to 175 range.....

Pike and Kelli Zinn specifically need to provide real assets to upgrade in the portal AND in HS recruiting.....so the program is fixed.

It's not complicated, but the portal isn't going to save or fix this....basic HS recruiting and retaining players is the only true fix.

Agree with the concept but the major problem is HS class rankings. That is why it works for a Purdue or MSU.

Compare recruiting classes for the last 4-5 years. That’s why it works for them and will never work for Pike.

 

[RUJMM78]

Bottom line is that Rutgers isn't a destination school for top tier recruits.The recruits they are getting belong in the MAC or Atlantiv Ten Conferences.Watch what happens next week when the transfer portal becomes active.Rutgers needs difference makers at every position with size in order successfully compete in the B1G Ten.

 

[Kbe4]

Bottom line is that Rutgers isn't a destination school for top tier recruits.

Nor has it ever been.

 

[Scarlet Shack]

The original post is what I have been preaching for a long time

the roster issues have started with a bad
Run of high school recruiting …

and, candidly, I am beside myself that we
Only gave out one scholarship this last cycle (Wooten) and didn’t have a plan B for the front court when Adkins (Kansas) and Soerlock (Arizona state )

we can keep talking about roster construction and using the portal …but if we recruit right and regulalry recruit 4 frosh , if we are a program of development …you should be able to get 2 legit top 8 Rotation pcs in each class

I know a lot of people really have issues with Pike and his coaching about the offenses they run …and we can debate that ….

but , to me, if he is a defensive minded coaxh

where is the length ?
Where is the lateral quickness ?
Where is the agility to change direction to get out to guard at And beyond the three point line ?
Where is the toughness and rebounding ?

Our issues (and my issue with pike ) is serveral years of recruiting pcs that didn’t fill what he wants to do on the court .

top that with a lack of nunbers given out ….

 

[RIP2025]

It's 2026. I disagree 100%. You don't win with freshmen. Every is on a 1 year contract. The only fix is $. It is over. We will NEVER be able to compete again.

I genuinely feel bad for all of you guys.

 

[MadRU]

 

[bac2therac]

The original post is what I have been preaching for a long time

the roster issues have started with a bad
Run of high school recruiting …

and, candidly, I am beside myself that we
Only gave out one scholarship this last cycle (Wooten) and didn’t have a plan B for the front court when Adkins (Kansas) and Soerlock (Arizona state )

we can keep talking about roster construction and using the portal …but if we recruit right and regulalry recruit 4 frosh , if we are a program of development …you should be able to get 2 legit top 8 Rotation pcs in each class

I know a lot of people really have issues with Pike and his coaching about the offenses they run …and we can debate that ….

but , to me, if he is a defensive minded coaxh

where is the length ?
Where is the lateral quickness ?
Where is the agility to change direction to get out to guard at And beyond the three point line ?
Where is the toughness and rebounding ?

Our issues (and my issue with pike ) is serveral years of recruiting pcs that didn’t fill what he wants to do on the court .

top that with a lack of nunbers given out ….

Pikea recruiting high school players has generally been poor. He had 2 outlier yeara year which are in the distance. Its not going to change

 

[NightKnight]

Rashod Kent scored at about 80% for Bannon's teams with reverses and put backs and a shooting chart dotted less than 3 ft out. That was a strong man playing center at 6'6"