Mark Pope needs to rescind the Tyran Stokes offer immediately

FilsonCat

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Yaxel is FOS. Nobody in CBB got offered 7-9 million. I am tired of hearing and reading about something as obviously untrue as his exaggeration. As far as Stokes, the writing has to be on the wall at this point. Pope hasn't gotten it done and probably won't close out this one either.
 

Ash Williams

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Trying to threaten him by telling him to commit by date X or else is beyond ridiculous.

He's not some 3 star we're competing for against Akron where that might persuade him. 🤣

This is called big boy recruiting. Sounds like some of you don't have the stomach for it.
Archiving this post for the inevitable crow sandwich when Stokes rolls Pope and signs with KU.

"big boy recruiting" LOL SMH
 

Ash Williams

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Are you Yaxel's momma? You don't know sh*t, it's just another avenue for you to sling mud at Pope.
What we DO KNOW:

Yaxel was offered by Pope.
Yaxel chose Michigan instead.
Yaxel CLAIMS he took less money. Pope denied this a week later. Yaxel has not responded.

Yaxel either a) took far less money or b) lied about it. Either way, he went to GREAT LENGTHS to demonstrate his distaste for playing for either a) Pope or b) Kentucky.

Your de facto position is that Yaxel's distaste was directed at Kentucky rather than at Pope.

That seems like an avenue for you to defend Pope at all costs.
 

JohnRambo82

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Say it 12,000 times in different ways so we know your stance..
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yoshukai

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He’s being strung along by this kid and it looks of desperation at this point. Show some pride and end any affiliation with him now. Even if he did come, it would end up bad. He was even seen wearing the back brace thing at the McDonalds game. Just setting the tone for what he will do next season wherever he goes. Plenty of good players in the portal who actually want to play basketball without all the drama.

Anyone that has been around very long has seen this happen before where a recruit strings along another high competitor, costing them resources and time, only to end up going to the other team. Cut the cord now. It could end up costing us another good player.

He’s not bigger than our program, even though some think he is.
I mean , Pope has the look of desperation because he IS desperate . We’ll see how it plays out but not getting Stokes is going to make it a lot more difficult to save his job .
 

UKGrad24

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Yeah, but there’s a sense of do you want to make that situation better or do you want to keep marinating in the laughter of others.
I mean fine. Pull it. Pope is still not going to make it.

Keep it and lose him. Pope is still not going to make it.

Keep it and land him. Pope is still not going to make it.

There are just no signs at all that Mark Pope can win at UK or will win at all at any program. Much less here. All we’re doing is favors for DUKE UNC Kanas and UConn. That’s literally all we’re doing. So I just don’t care. But if you do it’s a message board, act like it matters and get into the details. I don’t police the board.
 

kyjeff1

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Ok. I hope you realize that on the flipside.
I like my play a whole lot better than yours.

If Pope fails next year, my projection will be proven correct.

If Pope kills it next year, my projection, again, will be correct.
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If Pope fails next year, you will dance around like a fool, explaining how right you were, but nobody will care, because there are bigger things to talk about than you.

If Pope kills it, you'll just disappear, start a new account, or post the same old tired "I'll eat my crow now" bullsh*t.
 

UKGrad24

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Why would he be desperate? Just recruit good enough players in the portal. Stokes could be great or he could be a head case. Some players pan out like cousins, others end up being kicked off the team like Rashad carruth..
If we get him great if we don't get some good players in the portal. Dusty did good this year with the portal, last year we did better. I'm on wait and see mode to see who we get in portal. The ones saying we are going to be crap without seeing the roster no little to nothing.
I don't know if he can recruit, when he probably isn't good at lying which most people do when signing kids. Some tell the truth about pt and other stuff but most I don't think are completely honest.
To be a college basketball coach and be successful you have to do what you have to do. It’s the dirtiest sport in the world at any level. Far dirtier than football. If Mark carries morals and principles around he should have never taken this job. You cannot win.
 

kyjeff1

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What we DO KNOW:

Yaxel was offered by Pope.
Yaxel chose Michigan instead.
Yaxel CLAIMS he took less money. Pope denied this a week later. Yaxel has not responded.

Yaxel either a) took far less money or b) lied about it. Either way, he went to GREAT LENGTHS to demonstrate his distaste for playing for either a) Pope or b) Kentucky.

Your de facto position is that Yaxel's distaste was directed at Kentucky rather than at Pope.

That seems like an avenue for you to defend Pope at all costs.
What we do know is, Kobe Brea chose UK over UConn and KU, among others.

What we also do know: Every coach in the country, even Cal and K, have lost recruiting battles and looked bad in the process.

Do you have any other words of wisdom, or nah?
 
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I like my play a whole lot better than yours.

If Pope fails next year, my projection will be proven correct.

If Pope kills it next year, my projection, again, will be correct.
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If Pope fails next year, you will dance around like a fool, explaining how right you were, but nobody will care, because there are bigger things to talk about than you.

If Pope kills it, you'll just disappear, start a new account, or post the same old tired "I'll eat my crow now" bullsh*t.
Ill cheer for Kentucky, so eat my boogers my dude
 
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kyjeff1

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I couldn't care any less if he was Rupp reincarnated. Mark Pope is a fraud. Only people that spout this BS of "one of our own" believe he isn't.
Exactly, the only thing you care about is if the team won a title or not.
You don't give a sh*t about the program or players. You just need that itch scratched, but you're here trying to tell me that you're some super fan and I'm not a fan, because I don’t expect a national title every year.
 

Eagles_Ball_69

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Exactly, the only thing you care about is if the team won a title or not.
You don't give a sh*t about the program or players. You just need that itch scratched, but you're here trying to tell me that you're some super fan and I'm not a fan, because I don’t expect a national title every year.
No, I do care about the program. That's why I care about the results. That's what made, and will continue to make the program. Mark Pope is no longer a player. He's a grown a$$ed man that took a job, knowing the expectation, he told us he knew the expectation, he wanted us to "rip him" when he wasn't meeting the expectation. You can hang on his sack all you want. I won't. He's failing to meet the expectation he said he understood.
 

UKGrad24

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What we do know is, Kobe Brea chose UK over UConn and KU, among others.

What we also do know: Every coach in the country, even Cal and K, have lost recruiting battles and looked bad in the process.

Do you have any other words of wisdom, or nah?
I’m on record saying I do believe JMI is an issue. I know it is. And him signing Brea was

A. Based on playing time.
B. There was no JMI deal.
C. Even Pope can pull a single recruit here and there that someone else wants. He can’t do it consistently and Brea wasn’t a highly touted recruit.
D. He was recruited on the Caliapri / NBA brand. Pope is now the face. Might not get him now, probably wouldn’t.

Mark would have a lot of trouble recruiting anyway. I mean he’s been a head coach for 12 years. He’s got no major impact recruits in his life. I don’t know how anyone could look past this. Some people just see this early and some don’t, for me this is one of the easiest things I’ve ever seen in sports. Mark has a multitude of reasons why he will not and cannot be successful here. JMI is a hold back for sure, but Calipari was getting around it. Mark cannot both sell himself with no record and get around it. There’s a no chance he wins to standard or returns UK to consistent blue blood basketball. None man.
 
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BigBluefoot

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What we do know is, Kobe Brea chose UK over UConn and KU, among others.

What we also do know: Every coach in the country, even Cal and K, have lost recruiting battles and looked bad in the process.

Do you have any other words of wisdom, or nah?
Umm, Jeff. We are losing EVERY recruiting battle for top recruits. Comparing Pope.to Cal.or K is like comparing a nose whistler to Eddy Van Halen.
 
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BBNinSCar

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Yaxel is FOS. Nobody in CBB got offered 7-9 million. I am tired of hearing and reading about something as obviously untrue as his exaggeration. As far as Stokes, the writing has to be on the wall at this point. Pope hasn't gotten it done and probably won't close out this one either.
he's proven to be a liar more than once. Yaxel is an immature player. I'll be rooting against Michigan all the way.
 
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You guys are ridiculous.
The only player that could lead a one man team and win was Larry Bird. Stokes is no Larry Free up 6 million and get 3-4 players with experience. Look at BYU, Duke, they are home. Teams with 5 stars shutdown because these players shutdown. They did it to Al, and JDdd it to pope last year. Forget Stokes
 
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UKCowboys

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Michigan: 5 of their top 6 players are transfers.
Illinois: only 2 RSCI top 100 players (#23 & #57) and 3 transfer players.
UConn: 3 transfers and 1 top 10 kid.

The team that had all the high end NBA star power, is sitting at home. It can be done and it actually is done more often than not.
Great post, will be ignored by most, doesn't fit the narrative. Using this fact based knowledge would make them think May, Underwood and Hurley can't recruit lol
 

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To be a college basketball coach and be successful you have to do what you have to do. It’s the dirtiest sport in the world at any level. Far dirtier than football. If Mark carries morals and principles around he should have never taken this job. You cannot win.
That might be true. I think orlando Smith even did some dirty things. For me the juror is still out. Tubby had the stare too
 

FilsonCat

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The only player that could lead a one man team and win was Larry Bird. Stokes is no Larry Free up 6 million and get 3-4 players with experience. Look at BYU, Duke, they are home. Teams with 5 stars shutdown because these players shutdown. They did it to Al, and JDdd it to pope last year. Forget Stokes
If, and it's a very doubtful if at this point, you could get Stokes, you take him. Pope could actually build around him and let him run the offense from the 4. Pope struggled coaching a team that had too few three point threats and nobody to consistently run his sets. Lowe was much better than Aberdeen at getting things set up, but even he had a tendency to hold the ball too long.

Most of the time this past season, we were burning shot clock and running a simple ball screen to try to create a step behind or a dive from the screening big. We had poor ball movement and didn't rotate the ball well on offense. That's way too easy to figure out and defend at this level.

If Pope added Stokes, the PG from SDSU, and some shooting threats, you could put something together with that as the foundation.
 

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I believe that Stokes is recruit we need to solidify Pope can recruit and we trend toward getting a top 5 guy.
But if he’s gonna drag this shiit to the point of losing a big chunk of nil where we could get a real proven stud in the portal than I think Pope should end it.
 
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