Never bet against Musk

m.knox

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just illustrates how corrupt our financial systems are.
Tesla is over valued as a company
so is Xai

LOL.. A guy invents stuff and therefore is corrupt. Musk sold Paypal in 2002 for $1.5 B. Now it is a staple payment system used by everyone.

It's not corruption. It's bitterness because your poster boy turned his back on you back in May 2022 when he labelled the democratic party the party of division and hate.

All that said, I stayed away from the equity due to it be overvalued. So I do agree with you. The market doesn't seem to care. P/E ratio of 330. It's insane. Demonstration of the greater fool theory.
 
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firegiver

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LOL.. A guy invents stuff and therefore is corrupt. Musk sold Paypal in 2002 for $1.5 B. Now it is a staple payment system used by everyone.

It's not corruption. It's bitterness because your poster boy turned his back on you back in May 2022 when he labelled the democratic party the party of division and hate.

All that said, I stayed away from the equity due to it be overvalued. So I do agree with you. The market doesn't seem to care. P/E ratio of 330. It's insane. Demonstration of the greater fool theory.
He doesnt invent anything. He took his PayPal money, he was forced out of that company, and bought into tesla that had already invented the roadster.
Hes not an engineer, he just speak gud for u understand

His dad named him for a nazi character. His father raped his step sister and then married her later. He comes from intellectual people for sure, but they are morally corrupt. Hes a weirdo trying to impregnate as many women as possible.
 

tigres88

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Don't forget Doge. He and trump promised 2 trillion in savings and $5,000 checks for all. Ended up being much less than 10 billion, and a lot of that had to be reversed.
Doge created as much noise as all of this admin's other blitzkreig operations, and was just as unsuccessful. It was literally a tool to strip Democrat-led initiatives they didn't like in the guise of calling it "fraud." Just an absolute clown show.
 

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Autonomous semi! Robotaxi! Space data centers!

Tesla would be an epic failure if it wasn’t for all the govt subsidies the company received. Space X makes money, so can’t hate on him for that one. Twitter - epic failure. X.ai - epic failure.

how many auto companies have had most of their models be complete flops?
 
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m.knox

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He doesnt invent anything. He took his PayPal money, he was forced out of that company, and bought into tesla that had already invented the roadster.
Hes not an engineer, he just speak gud for u understand

His dad named him for a nazi character. His father raped his step sister and then married her later. He comes from intellectual people for sure, but they are morally corrupt. Hes a weirdo trying to impregnate as many women as possible.

Sounds bitter. He earning $852 B will do that to lesser individuals like you.
 

firegiver

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Sounds bitter. He earning $852 B will do that to lesser individuals like you.
Its not bitterness to point out what I've learned about an individual. Would you say pointing out these FACTS are bitter pill? Eh, I made a ton of money off TSLA stock and got out.
I'm just not impressed with a person who's said he's 3 months away, or whatever, from robo taxies for like 4 years.
He's a confidence man. Has been running on fumes for a decade. What's he released in the last 10 years thats new and successful?
 

Chumpsky

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He doesnt invent anything. He took his PayPal money, he was forced out of that company, and bought into tesla that had already invented the roadster.
Hes not an engineer, he just speak gud for u understand

His dad named him for a nazi character. His father raped his step sister and then married her later. He comes from intellectual people for sure, but they are morally corrupt. Hes a weirdo trying to impregnate as many women as possible.
💯 Elon is a dumb fck con artist just like trump
 
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fatpiggy

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just illustrates how corrupt our financial systems are.
Tesla is over valued as a company
so is Xai
That’s not corruption, that’s the market at work.

Something Democrats don’t understand.

If you want to see corruption go to Minnesota or California.

You are free to short any company you feel is overvalued and can profit handsomely if you are correct.


Capitalism will always be better than communism and socialism as proven by history over and over again.
 
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fatpiggy

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He doesnt invent anything. He took his PayPal money, he was forced out of that company, and bought into tesla that had already invented the roadster.
Hes not an engineer, he just speak gud for u understand

His dad named him for a nazi character. His father raped his step sister and then married her later. He comes from intellectual people for sure, but they are morally corrupt. Hes a weirdo trying to impregnate as many women as possible.
He doesn’t invent anything except Starlink. And the biggest rocket ever made. And the boring company.
 
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fatpiggy

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Autonomous semi! Robotaxi! Space data centers!

Tesla would be an epic failure if it wasn’t for all the govt subsidies the company received. Space X makes money, so can’t hate on him for that one. Twitter - epic failure. X.ai - epic failure.

how many auto companies have had most of their models be complete flops?
2/3 are already here and you are crying.


Who gave him all the government subsidies? The DEMOCRATS.

He beat you at your own game and now you are crying!!
 
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fatpiggy

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Its not bitterness to point out what I've learned about an individual. Would you say pointing out these FACTS are bitter pill? Eh, I made a ton of money off TSLA stock and got out.
I'm just not impressed with a person who's said he's 3 months away, or whatever, from robo taxies for like 4 years.
He's a confidence man. Has been running on fumes for a decade. What's he released in the last 10 years thats new and successful?
Starlink
 

m.knox

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Its not bitterness to point out what I've learned about an individual. Would you say pointing out these FACTS are bitter pill? Eh, I made a ton of money off TSLA stock and got out.
I'm just not impressed with a person who's said he's 3 months away, or whatever, from robo taxies for like 4 years.
He's a confidence man. Has been running on fumes for a decade. What's he released in the last 10 years thats new and successful?

LOL.. You are bitter. Bitter that he left your cult. There are $852 billion reasons why.
 
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Chumpsky

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That’s not corruption, that’s the market at work.

Something Democrats don’t understand.

If you want to see corruption go to Minnesota or California.

You are free to short any company you feel is overvalued and can profit handsomely if you are correct.


Capitalism will always be better than communism and socialism as proven by history over and over again.
Evil will always triumph over good, for you see, good....is dumb.
 

Rastafarian

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😅He is a corporate raider. He buys other people's inventions and then markets them as his own. That's it. He's never invented anything, dingus.
He ran x.com (the first iteration which was meant to be an online bank) into the ground and the PayPal guys saved the company after going to the board to get musk fired because he had terrible business judgement.

He didn’t invent Tesla. Just invested and took credit. Space X I have to give him credit for. He founded, raised capital, put the team together, and pushed the vision. He also benefited from the US cutting funding for NASA and privatizing a lot of space work. It’s ironic that every dollar he has made has had the federal government as a huge component of his success yet now that he’s rich he doesn’t want to pay into it and instead wants to tear it down.

it’s incredible that so many internet losers worship this guy and buy everything he makes. Chinas EV companies run circles around Musk.
 
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Rastafarian

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They got fleeced so bad that Nashville ordered tunnels too?
Those poor TN residents who are getting fleeced by their politicians.

it would be great if it worked, but Las Vegas learned an expensive lesson about partnering with musk. This won’t be any different.
 

fatpiggy

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He ran x.com (the first iteration which was meant to be an online bank) into the ground and the PayPal guys saved the company after going to the board to get musk fired because he had terrible business judgement.

He didn’t invent Tesla. Just invested and took credit. Space X I have to give him credit for. He founded, raised capital, put the team together, and pushed the vision. He also benefited from the US cutting funding for NASA and privatizing a lot of space work. It’s ironic that every dollar he has made has had the federal government as a huge component of his success yet now that he’s rich he doesn’t want to pay into it and instead wants to tear it down.

it’s incredible that so many internet losers worship this guy and buy everything he makes. Chinas EV companies run circles around Musk.
He just "invested" in Tesla is a mischaracterization and you know it.
 

Rastafarian

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He just "invested" in Tesla is a mischaracterization and you know it.
He wasn’t a founder. Didn’t invent anything at Tesla. Pushed for the roadster which was another epic failure. Then kicked the founders out of the company and put himself in as CEO.

Oh, I almost forgot about another failure - solar city. Remember the roof tiles that were going to change solar and our need for the grid forever?

Yes, Musk is very very wealthy. But so was Bernie Madoff.
 

SDTiger9

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I’m not stumping for Musk, but please show me those who forecast a delivery date and actually deliver? It’s very rare in commercial business.

Not picking on the value of a “SAVE ACT” but the notion of trying this NOW, is pathetic and highly misleading and dangerous. Just look at REAL ID.
Real ID Act passed - May 2005
Real ID Act Go Live - May 2008

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yoshi121374

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He wasn’t a founder. Didn’t invent anything at Tesla. Pushed for the roadster which was another epic failure. Then kicked the founders out of the company and put himself in as CEO.

Oh, I almost forgot about another failure - solar city. Remember the roof tiles that were going to change solar and our need for the grid forever?

Yes, Musk is very very wealthy. But so was Bernie Madoff.

It's so similar to Edison its a bit funny. He didn't actually event stuff, but hired real inventors to his lab in Menlo Park and took credit for their ideas.
 
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fatpiggy

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He wasn’t a founder. Didn’t invent anything at Tesla. Pushed for the roadster which was another epic failure. Then kicked the founders out of the company and put himself in as CEO.

Oh, I almost forgot about another failure - solar city. Remember the roof tiles that were going to change solar and our need for the grid forever?

Yes, Musk is very very wealthy. But so was Bernie Madoff.
The fact you can't distinguish between Madoff and Musk tells me all i need to know.
 
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Rastafarian

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I’m not stumping for Musk, but please show me those who forecast a delivery date and actually deliver? It’s very rare in commercial business.

Not picking on the value of a “SAVE ACT” but the notion of trying this NOW, is pathetic and highly misleading and dangerous. Just look at REAL ID.
Real ID Act passed - May 2005
Real ID Act Go Live - May 2008

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Not sure I agree with that, nor would I use the government as a benchmark. Many publicly traded companies forecast releases of product and meet those timelines. Most other CEOs who miss timelines - let alone as egregiously as musk consistently does - get fired.
 

fatpiggy

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Not sure I agree with that, nor would I use the government as a benchmark. Many publicly traded companies forecast releases of product and meet those timelines. Most other CEOs who miss timelines - let alone as egregiously as musk consistently does - get fired.
So that begs the question, why doesn’t he get fired?

Because his investors are still extremely happy is the only answer I can come up with.
 
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fatpiggy

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SDTiger9

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Not sure I agree with that, nor would I use the government as a benchmark. Many publicly traded companies forecast releases of product and meet those timelines. Most other CEOs who miss timelines - let alone as egregiously as musk consistently does - get fired.
I was using the SAVE Act in there as more of a reference of how AWFUL and PATHETIC it is in terms of timing and expectation. REAL ID is right here and look at that mess.

As for Musk, I simply don’t care. He either is or isn’t providing value to people. I do know he was a Democrat darling and now a Republican. Tells me that people are fvckin stupid as a whole. Why anyone views people that way is 2 digit IQ.
 
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hopefultiger13

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Doge created as much noise as all of this admin's other blitzkreig operations, and was just as unsuccessful. It was literally a tool to strip Democrat-led initiatives they didn't like in the guise of calling it "fraud." Just an absolute clown show.
Nope, Doge was an absolute success for Trump and Musk. Musk chipped in < $300 million and got full database access to every American's IRS and Social Security information. That's a sweet deal. For Trump and Musk.