The 3-Point Takedown - Folkstyle's Sea Change

[Wrestleknownothing]

50% more points should be 50% more fun.

But is it working? Does it incentivize more action and risk taking?

The 3 Point Takedown - Folkstyle's Sea Change | Wrestling.Guru

The year was 2023 and there was a plague upon the land of folkstyle wrestling. Scoring at the NCAA tournament was down - a lot. After hitting a near-term pe ...

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[okokzach]

In this table and in the paragraphs that follow, I would want to see the figures as % of all matches instead of % of decisions.

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

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In this table and in the paragraphs that follow, I would want to see the figures as % of all matches instead of % of decisions.

I did not do that because it fails to separate the two effects; takedown inflation and tactical adjustments caused by takedown inflation.

But if you do use all matches in the denominator you get similar results from a magnitude perspective. Zero or 1 TD matches were 11.8% of all matches in 2022-2023 and 35.9% in 2024-2026.

 

[FourCornersCowboy]

Maybe it’s just me and the majority of my viewing being OSU, but obviously we’re shooting more but I also feel the defense today is just better.

 

[Cowboy1989]

The scrambling ability of today's wrestlers is light years ahead of where it used to be

 

[Corby2]

The scrambling ability of today's wrestlers is light years ahead of where it used to be

And another reason you shouldn't have to hold a guy down for 2 seconds to get a takedown. We need clear definition of what reaction time is it can't be refs judgement because we see one ref and a 1/2 second of control is 3 and another ref it has to be 2 seconds

 

[Cowboy1989]

Exactly

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

Who has mastered the 3-Point Takedown?

Vince Robinson is 7-0 in the past two tournaments in 0 or 1 takedown matches. He has a pair of 4-2 wins, a pair of 4-1 wins, a 5-1 win, a 3-2 win and a 2-1 win. That is the most such wins by any wrestler in the three years of 3-point TD - and he only needed two of the years to do it. Honorable Mention to Patrick Kennedy (6-0).

Wrestlers with the most (8) 0 or 1 TD matches are Caleb Smith (6-2), Stephen Little (5-3) and Ben Kueter (4-4).

And who needs to consider a second takedown?

Most high volume, low scorers do well with the strategy though there are four wrestlers who may want to consider a second takedown. There are the wrestlers who have 7 such matches with a losing record (all are 3-4): Joey Blaze, Stevo Poulin, Evan Frost, and Mac Stout.

There are three wrestlers with a 1-4 record: Dayton Pitzer, Cam Steed, and Dean Peterson.

Nine wrestlers are 1-3.
Forty-three wrestlers are 0-2, 0-3, or 0-4.

 

[okokzach]

I'll take a guy who goes and gets a takedown and then sits on a lead (VRob) over a guy who stalls from the first whistle with the intent of going to rideouts (Ventresca).