Then you need to see more games.
You could start with a home game MSU played against BYU many moons ago.
Worse case scenario for Mississippi State football
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Then you need to see more games.
You could start with a home game MSU played against BYU many moons ago.
If I had to guess right now, I'd say our worst case is 0-12.
I've been a fan for way too long to assume anything.
I've watched us lose to many a team that we "couldn't" lose to.
But that's just a guess.
With the right personnel, we could probably find a way to move into the negative numbers.
I've been a fan for way too long to assume anything.
I've watched us lose to many a team that we "couldn't" lose to.
But that's just a guess.
With the right personnel, we could probably find a way to move into the negative numbers.
More stuff you say every year.
I've been to seal. I've seen the inside stuff. I give to NIL. I give to the BC. Do I count?
You know that one, right?
We lost to Maine. I know they are in the middle of a recruiting hotbed** but we had more talent than them and still lost.
I'm not convinced we have anything won until the final whistle.
I feel pretty stupid doing it given the way I see it spent.
Who gives a rats arse about "booster access"? I couldn't care less if I ever saw a head coach on the street and would like it even better if I never had to listen to their "coach speak" interviews and post game excuses. Just win by damn!
The exact same thing I thought about when I saw that comment yesterday.................
I don't think we beat Minnesota, and may not beat Mizzou and/or Vandy.
We can be a better football team in 2026 and still win only 2-3 games. I am doubting that we are going to be ANY better, so I will be pleasantly surprised if we are and win 4-6 games.
This is why I hate making proclamations on coaching retention based on win totals. We won five last year but were grossly incompetent at times. And nothing we picked up in the portal is going to solve for that. Arnett will help a little on D, but his style of D and Lebby's style of O are not complimentary, and that's going to show up. So I hate this "he wins six and he will be back" stuff. We fired Jomo after a six win season. If we continue to have the glaring incompetency showing up at inopportune times next year, I don't care how many games we win - he's gotta go. If we were competent and well coached and were only winning three because we were out-talented, that's a different discussion.
Mostly agree. We won 5 games, but we weren't a 5-win caliber team. But for 2026 if we play well and only win 3 games (or 4 or maybe even 5) because we were out-talented, he's still got to go. He's had 3 years to bring in the talent and if we're still out-talented he has to be fired.
Which is why I said "different discussion." I wouldn't want to bring him back either because he's had three years to do what others have done in shorter times. But it's a different discussion - we aren't talking about on field incompetence anymore. I'm not worried about having to have that discussion though - that's not the kind of thing (competency) that a coach is suddenly going to correct in one year.
And this is why we wasted at least a year not firing him 4 months ago.
What's just maddening is those of us who've watched enough of these scenarios already know this is not going to work with Lebby.
And waiting for the "right" moment, from the standpoint of all the powers that be at MSU, is just a waste of time as far as the common fan is concerned.
And that's how you lose a fanbase.
And waiting for the "right" moment, from the standpoint of all the powers that be at MSU, is just a waste of time as far as the common fan is concerned.
And that's how you lose a fanbase.
Either way, in my mind if he goes 4-8 or worse a change needs to be made. I don't think he's head coach material. They looked like the keystone cops in the bowl game with a month to prepare. I have zero confidence. Arnett would have to work a miracle, but he hasn't even been a DC for 2 years. This could be a total clown show. We will be out classed in coaching and talent in nearly every game next year.
We were 8th of the 16 teams in offense. We ranked above Alabama. Offense was not our problem.
Of course not. I would never, ever bet against Mississippi State, no matter the odds, because it would create a conflict of rooting interest that I never want to have.
I bet against us all the time. And i have no problem rooting for us and hoping i lose my money!
Alcorn State, northern Illinois, Texas A&M, Missouri, Georgia, ole Miss, and wake forest.
Now compare that to the rest of the SEC and games they got garbage time in. We were still in the top half of the league.
And we did that with an impromptu offensive line. Injuries necessitated moving players around.
The beauty of this season's schedule is that we'll know by the end of September if Lebby still has a chance to turn things around. Weeks 2-4 we play Minnesota, South Carolina, and Missouri, all 3 of which undoubtedly expect to beat us but should be vulnerable.
- If we go 3-0 in those games, we're likely going to finish 6-6 or better since all it takes is splitting the Vanderbilt and Auburn games, both at home.
- If we go 2-1 in those games, we at least have a decent shot to get to 6-6.
- If we go 1-2, we can go ahead and start talking informally to new coaches.
- If we go 0-3, fire him right then.
I say we just fire him now in a pre emptive firing. Go hire whoever is at UAB or Latech and reassess after his first 3 games. If 0-3 fire him and hire a new coach during our bye week. I mean why waste time ? Any coach should easily turn around a legendary program such as this very quickly. All you really need is consistency and to be intentional every time you are inside this building.