Holy shyatt he said it out loud
- Thread starter TigerRagRob
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Illegal aliens do not vote
The sole purpose of wanting ICE agents at polling stations is to intimidate and scare minorities (who tend to vote Democrat anyway but are even more incentivized to vote blue given the monstrosities being committed against them by our government) away from coming to vote
Republicans don’t like it when voting is easy and accessible because it means they lose elections. They know that their policies are unpopular and their only way to win an election is to either cheat or limit voting access.
The sole purpose of wanting ICE agents at polling stations is to intimidate and scare minorities (who tend to vote Democrat anyway but are even more incentivized to vote blue given the monstrosities being committed against them by our government) away from coming to vote
Republicans don’t like it when voting is easy and accessible because it means they lose elections. They know that their policies are unpopular and their only way to win an election is to either cheat or limit voting access.
That presumes:
1. There is a problem with non-citizens voting in U.S. elections;
2. Having ICE goons outside polling places would somehow address that (nonexistent) problem.
Neither of those presumptions has any basis in fact. Nice try, though.
1. There is a problem with non-citizens voting in U.S. elections;
2. Having ICE goons outside polling places would somehow address that (nonexistent) problem.
Neither of those presumptions has any basis in fact. Nice try, though.
Please provide proof that illegal immigrants are voting and affecting the outcome of elections. It’s an intimidation tactic for minority voters with a thin veneer. Trump’s approval rating with minorities has plummeted - do you really think he’d implement this tactic if he was +20% with Latino voters?
They have caught them voting already you tool. Here are just a few examples...
- Mahady Sacko (Mauritanian national, illegal immigrant in Philadelphia): Arrested in March 2026 by ICE and the FBI. Prosecutors allege he falsely claimed U.S. citizenship, registered to vote, and illegally cast ballots in every federal election since 2008 (including 2008, 2012, 2016, 2020, and 2024 presidential elections, plus some primaries). He had a deportation order since around 2000 but remained in the U.S. under supervision.
- Two Pakistani nationals in New Jersey (Muhammad Muzammal and Muhammad Shakeel): Indicted in January 2026 for illegally voting in the November 2020 federal election (which included the presidential race) and making false statements on citizenship applications. Both registered to vote while non-citizens, falsely claiming U.S. citizenship, and then cast ballots. USCIS assisted in the investigation.
- Cecilia Casellanos (Cuban national in Arkansas): Pleaded guilty in January 2026 to perjury and voter fraud for illegally voting as a non-citizen.
- Denis Bouchard (Canadian national in North Carolina): Pleaded guilty in March 2026 to falsely claiming U.S. citizenship to vote in the 2022 and 2024 elections; faces up to 10 years in prison.
- Jose “Joe” Ceballos-Armendariz (Mexican national in Kansas): DHS released records in November 2025 showing he illegally voted multiple times in Kansas elections. Kansas AG is prosecuting him on counts of voting without being qualified and election perjury.
Multi-Defendant Indictments
- 19 foreign nationals in North Carolina (2016 elections): Indicted in 2018 (with updates noted in 2025 reports) for falsely claiming U.S. citizenship to register and vote in the 2016 elections. One U.S. citizen was also charged with aiding an alien. This stemmed from an ICE Homeland Security Investigations task force. Maximum penalties included up to 6 years in prison and $350,000 fines.
- Lina Maria Orovio-Hernandez (Colombian national in Massachusetts): Convicted on federal charges including identity theft, passport fraud, and illegal voting in the 2024 presidential election. An “I Voted” sticker reportedly helped link her to the case.
State-Level Discoveries and Audits
- Texas: In October 2025, Secretary of State Jane Nelson announced a cross-check with federal SAVE database flagged over 2,700 potential non-citizens on voter rolls out of 18 million. Further reviews identified 33 potential non-citizens who voted in the 2024 election; cases referred to AG Ken Paxton for investigation.
- Ohio: Multiple probes (e.g., 2025) flagged over 1,000 apparent non-citizen registrations, with some having voted since 2018; cases referred to DOJ. Earlier audits found smaller numbers.
- Arkansas: In October 2025, AG Tim Griffin announced arrests of three non-citizens for illegally voting, including in the 2024 general election. One had prior felonies.
- Michigan: April 2025 review of millions of records found 15 credible cases of apparent non-citizens voting in the 2024 election (0.00028% of ballots); 13 referred for potential prosecution.
Over 80% of Americans approve of this act being passed. Only the hate America far left oppose it...
Lots of couched language here. Find the convictions? Because those mostly exist in places like Sumter Co., Fla.,
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where Repubs in The Villages voted multiple times.
LOL... Any convictions in all that? TWO guilty pleas? Where are the prosecutions. Did you actaully count the number of illegals voting in those "examples". I particularly like the last example.
I bet if you checked other things, like people voting for their dead parents, fellons voting, hell even old fashioned ballot box stuffing, you'd get MUCH higher number.
EDIT: Because I can't believe I didn't flag this one:
19 foreign nationals in North Carolina (2016 elections): Indicted in 2018 (with updates noted in 2025 reports) for falsely claiming U.S. citizenship to register and vote in the 2016 elections. One U.S. citizen was also charged with aiding an alien. This stemmed from an ICE Homeland Security
So again, let's get this straight. 19 folks were indicted in 2018. And yet SOMEHOW... eight years later, there hasn't even been a trial, much less a conviction. And this is an EXAMPLE of how illegals are voting? Come on man!
- Michigan: April 2025 review of millions of records found 15 credible cases of apparent non-citizens voting in the 2024 election (0.00028% of ballots); 13 referred for potential prosecution.
I bet if you checked other things, like people voting for their dead parents, fellons voting, hell even old fashioned ballot box stuffing, you'd get MUCH higher number.
EDIT: Because I can't believe I didn't flag this one:
19 foreign nationals in North Carolina (2016 elections): Indicted in 2018 (with updates noted in 2025 reports) for falsely claiming U.S. citizenship to register and vote in the 2016 elections. One U.S. citizen was also charged with aiding an alien. This stemmed from an ICE Homeland Security
So again, let's get this straight. 19 folks were indicted in 2018. And yet SOMEHOW... eight years later, there hasn't even been a trial, much less a conviction. And this is an EXAMPLE of how illegals are voting? Come on man!
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He specifically talks about the potential impact associated with women having name changes.
I don't think it'll end up actually happening because that's insane and affects both sides, but that's the 5-10% he's referring to, not illegals.
So less than 2 dozen across the country over a decade?
And this “problem” is worth disenfranchising millions of voters? This is worth making voting less accessible for American citizens?
give me a break. Just more meaningless virtue signaling from the right. Republicans don’t govern for the country, they govern out of spite. A party fueled by uninformed hate
Even the uber-conservative Heritage Foundation, the architects of Project 2025, after studying billions of votes over decades came up with a miniscule number of attempted votes cast by illegal immigrants. There is no reason for ICE to be at the polls for a problem that doesn't exist except in the schizoid brain of our mad king.
In reviewing decades of cases and billions of votes
cast, the Heritage Foundation has identified
just 10 cases involving in-person impersonation
fraud at the polls (fewer than the number of
members on the President’s Commission).
Heritage thus confirms what extensive prior
research has shown — it is more likely that
an individual will be struck by lightning than
impersonate another voter at the polls.
• The database includes only 41 cases involving
non-citizens registering, voting, or attempting
to vote. This is particularly striking given the
claims made by President Trump in setting up
the Commission that millions of illegal votes
were cast in 2016; on other occasions, he said
3 to 5 million unauthorized immigrants robbed
him of the popular vote majority. The fact that
only 41 such cases were identified over a time
span of more than four decades highlights the
absurdity of claims that millions of non-citizens
voted in the 2016 election alone.
The 51 cases referenced in the two previous bullets are the only examples in the database that would be addressed by the reforms most often trumpeted by the Heritage Foundation — laws requiring documentary proof of citizenship or government-issued identification to vote. It underscores that the potential harm from such proposals greatly outweighs any potential benefit.
https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/2019-07/Report_HeritageAnalysis_Final.pdf
In reviewing decades of cases and billions of votes
cast, the Heritage Foundation has identified
just 10 cases involving in-person impersonation
fraud at the polls (fewer than the number of
members on the President’s Commission).
Heritage thus confirms what extensive prior
research has shown — it is more likely that
an individual will be struck by lightning than
impersonate another voter at the polls.
• The database includes only 41 cases involving
non-citizens registering, voting, or attempting
to vote. This is particularly striking given the
claims made by President Trump in setting up
the Commission that millions of illegal votes
were cast in 2016; on other occasions, he said
3 to 5 million unauthorized immigrants robbed
him of the popular vote majority. The fact that
only 41 such cases were identified over a time
span of more than four decades highlights the
absurdity of claims that millions of non-citizens
voted in the 2016 election alone.
The 51 cases referenced in the two previous bullets are the only examples in the database that would be addressed by the reforms most often trumpeted by the Heritage Foundation — laws requiring documentary proof of citizenship or government-issued identification to vote. It underscores that the potential harm from such proposals greatly outweighs any potential benefit.
https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/2019-07/Report_HeritageAnalysis_Final.pdf
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The internet is swamped with photos of ICE scrolling on their phones or standing around twiddling their thumbs doing absolutely nothing at the airports where they were assigned because they aren't trained in airport security. Our tax dollars are paying for this Trump created problem.
This ^^^^ from a RWNJ who thinks 9/11 was a "False flag" event, and that the shootings in Sandy Hook never happened. #REMEMBERTHEBOWLINGGREENMASSACRE!!
This from a guy that thinks Trump pissed on hookers in Russia, thinks men can get pregnant, and PedoHitler got 81 million votes...
What part of the word "examples" dont you understand? The left claims that this doesnt even happen. I just demonstrated that this does happen, and way more than people would like...
Angry Gump - how has deploying ICE to airports been a productive use of taxpayer funds? They aren’t helping at all with TSA screenings to alleviate the long lines.
here's the thing I bet we could all agree on, there have been instances where undocumented people have voted: but the number of illegals votes would not have changed the outcome of the election they voted in.
agreed??
I wondered the same thing...But this morning my wife showed me a video from CNN where one of their reporters said that since ICE agents were deployed (only one day) that the wait time has decreased from hours to 40 minutes. Now, maybe that's just because few people travel on Tuesdays or maybe ICE presence deterred undocumented people from flying, or maybe something else. Who knows, but if the reporter was accurate, then ICE being there has helped.
It’s tough to draw conclusions from anecdotes. I’d be interested to see the data on travel volume and timing. As an anecdote, I know people who travel frequently for work who are rescheduling trips because they don’t want to deal with the current chaos. I personally have delayed a trip and rescheduled departure times to align with the slow days (midweek) and times.
I would say smart man..understands the problem and finds ways to deal with it.
Y'all are ******* dumb. Those last little words "...to stop illegal aliens from voting" were never actually said. He didn't say that. By this "logic", I guess we need ICE agents at places of worship to make sure illegals don't start preaching, schools to make sure illegals don't start teaching, and hospitals to make sure illegals don't start practicing medicine.
At least try to hide the blatant stupidity and spreading of lies.
I don't think that Trump pissed on hookers in Russia. I think that hookers in Russia (and perhaps elsewhere) pissed ON TRUMP.
I don't think men can get pregnant (OK, maybe JinxyPat).
I don't know who "PedoHielter" is, but I know that Joe Biden got 81 million votes in the 2020 presidential election, thereby beating the crap out of Donald Trump. I realize THAT one has gotta sting. Wikipedia agrees with me. Viz.:
Presidential elections were held in the United States on November 3, 2020.[a] The Democratic ticket of former vice president Joe Biden and California junior senator Kamala Harris defeated the incumbent Republican president Donald Trump and vice president Mike Pence.[9] The election saw the highest voter turnout by percentage since 1900. Biden received more than 81 million votes,[10] the most votes ever cast for a presidential candidate in U.S. history.[11]
?? A TSA screening line is just about the LAST place an undocumented alien would want to be right now. But also prior to ICE getting active as well. You have to produce your ID at the entrance to the TSA line. There are armed TSA personnel there, and local sheriffs all over the airport. Plus, reports are that these ICE agents are not trained to, and therefore are not allowed to, assist the TSA agents in doing their jobs. Reports are that they are just standing around. I saw on report on this Board indicating that they were handing out water bottles at some airport. They arrested and hauled off a U.S. citizen at SFO (San Francisco Int'l Airport) yesterday. Otherwise, they have pretty much just stood around.
Trump sends ICE to airports. Critics say that doesn’t help TSA or passengers
“They deserve to be paid, not replaced by untrained, armed agents who have shown how dangerous they can be,” Everett
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according to DHS, the woman arrested yesterday was not a US citizen but a guatamalan who had been referred for deportation in 2019. She was on her way to said deportation when she tried to escape and when the agents caught up with her she lay on the floor and refused to get up which is why the agents had to physically pick her up. The agents involved were not part of the airport detail.
DHS wouldn't lie would they?
The problem is that TSA isn't getting paid.
The problem is that politicians want to stop funding to DHS unless they adhere to some oversight and adjustments to policy.
The problem is that the current administration has said NO to all negotiations.
The problem is that project 2025 WANTS to not pay TSA agents so that the unionized ones will quit so they can abolish the unions they participate in.
So the problem is completely manufactured in order to centralize power to the executive branch. Which is a problem ... for our democracy... country... whatever.
I will take your reports as accurate.
So summary is that an almost infinitesimal number of people break existing laws in an activity guaranteed in the constitution which in almost all cases amount to noise in the overall vote (similar to potential disqualified ballots, errors and miscounts) resulting in little harm which requires new stricter laws reinforcing the laws already on the books and strong enforcement and legal barriers restricting access and potential intimidation of US citizens to prevent basically something that has been repeatedly shown to not impact anything.
On the other hand we have a constitutionally protected right to bear arms which is consistently abused by a small number of people resulting in death and injury to hundreds or maybe thousands per year admittedly violating a law against such use but the country cannot have additional laws that further address reasonable weapon ownership or access and heaven forbid any strict enforcement of existing laws. Do I have this correct?
Now it's about the unions. The goalpost have moved outside the stadium now and sitting in the street.
"for our democracy... country... whatever." You have zero love for any, or all, because you've never sacrificed a damn thing for this country.
Project 2025. https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-project-2025-calls-110000278.html
Ive never sacrificed anything for this country? Really? Ive paid taxes since I was 14 years old. Id call that sacrifice. I do love my country, that's why it breaks my heart to see people hand it over to a festering rot of a conman. That's why it makes me mad to see people cheering for the destruction of liberty and justice.
Correct. For the thing that "never happens" it sure happens a lot.
It's because democrats are OK with a "little bit" of cheating. The reason they are OK with a "little bit" is because you have to require ID to prove that it happens a lot.
The reality is that it happens a lot, we just can't prove it without requiring ID. And yes, it may happen in quantities that are high enough to affect elections right now.
Id call that sacrifice. I'd call that a funny definition of sacrifice. Taxes are a duty and it's also the law. If you don't believe it, try not paying them and see what happens.